subcutaneous administration of racetams

[Jabberwocky]

Hello,

Is there any reason why daily subcutaneous administration of racetams (running them through a wheel filter) is a bad idea?

I basically cannot use them orally because they mess up my digestion too much (causing me nausea and even vomiting in some cases). However, I find the cognitive effects desirable and would very much like to take them (piracetam in particular). Rectal administration is out, since I cannot be putting things up my butt every day (I think this does not seem healthy either).

I use piracetam at a pretty low dose compared to most people...sometimes as low as 200mg (and I still notice a positive cognitive effect). I figure perhaps I could use at an even lower dose if injected SC. I would combine the dose with my daily morning B-complex injection (just squirt them both at the same time under the skin on the sides of my torso).

I'm sorry if this is not 'advanced' enough but I was afraid that if I put it in the other forums people would have no idea what I was talking about.

thanks for any help,
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[Jabberwocky]

29 views and no opinion?

 

[thisusername]

Well I dont have any info on whether its safe or not but i can tell you my opinion. It sounds damn interesting, try it and let us know how it goes. If its pure piractem and you use a low dose first like 100mg it should be good.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I'm afraid it will burn like a goddamn motherfucker

(excuse my language)

 

[thisusername]

Maybe get real high and inject 20 mg.

 

[negrogesic]

Piracetam can be injected in this fashion, but I would assume you would still need close to 200mg given the high bioavailability.

Im suprised it upsets your stomach, I never noticed any GI problems from even very large doses. Then again, I never noticed much from piracetam, in regards to anything...

 

[Jabberwocky]

well its either that or DMAE and I think it is likely piracetam as I have noticed much less GI disruption when I don't take piracetam.

 

[LuxEtVeritas]

no way is SC going to be viable

IM would be the option if inj. is desired

if you do start low, not to assess effect so much as pain, as ya never know and do not want to cripple an area for a week

or maybe sub out Pir for something else like the far superior Pram and see what happens GI and effect-wise

 

[Jabberwocky]

why do you say no way on SC?

I have used SC for ketamine, AMT, DPT, MET, and psilocin and the dosage required compared to IM is similar (not quite equipotent) but the onset is delayed a few minutes.