subbitex after meth.....how long should i wait?

[poplar girl]

Hi can you help me? With this awful situation presently in uk, where there is no gear anywhere to be found, I was fortunate enough to score enough meth to bring me to this point without 'feelin' the pinch. I'm about to run out but have reduced from 100ml daily to about 15ml yesterday in just 2 weeks. Being single mum, i can't afford to roast and with there being zero hope of getting either juice or gear tomorrow, it looks like the subbies that i've had stashed for rainy day are gonna be dragged out. I'm familiar with juice n know where i am with it! Subbies on other hand are new to me, I got no experience of taking them and every1's giving me diffferent advice; 1 m8 says I can't take em for 3 days after meth and another says u only gotta wait 12 hours. Is there any 1 who can better advize me? Like I said, really can't afford to be ill with my little'uns to look after so really don't wanna take any risks, but also don't wanna be clucking for days b4 switchin. Any clear advice based on facts would be really appreciated, just wanna ride this drought with minimal fuss, kinda convince myself I'm not even a junkie %)!! Which is actually becoming less of fantasy n more of a reality with each passing day LOL THANX for any imput

 

[OxyDillyKing]

Wait a very VERY long time, id say AT least 50-60 hours as Methadone i very long acting. i went into WDs once from taking Subs 36 hours after only 30mg of methadone. worst experience of my life.

 

[fryingsquirrel]

Just wait until you go into WD's.

 

[poplar girl]

Thanx, tho not sure I'm any clearer. Really don't think I could manage to wait 50/60 hours!! I'm literally doin cap full of juice a day and it's not enough to hold me but the wd's not so intense that I can't cope. Was hoping that on such small dose of meth I wouldn't need to wait that long?? And then the other reply 'just wait till you go into wd's', well after taking me capful in the morning the wd's usually kick in round 4pm every afternoon! But I would still feel too scared about taking the subbies. My m8 told me yesterday that he waited 18 hours from his last bit of gear, was deffo clucking and took the subbies which then threw him into complete wd's which lasted more than 6 hours and like you said the worse experience of his life. Guess I have little choice but to go as long as poss, then take my chances!!

Fingers crossed if I wait long enough, this drought will come to a long hoped for end and the subbies can be re stashed!!

 

[BIGsherm7272]

I feel sorry for your kid.

 

[OxyDillyKing]

She came here to ask a harm reduction question, not for you to get up on some high horse and criticize her parenting. who the fuck are you to level judgement at anyone? your obviously a drug addict like the rest of us or you wouldnt be blogging on a site devoted to drugs. Shes obviously trying to do better or she wouldnt be taking meth and subs in the first place. but even if she was going all out doing dope like crazy, who the hell are you to say anything about it?

Yes OP, your only choice is too wait as long as possible. i go for about 60 before trying it. then try like one mg and wait an hour to see how it makes you feel. im not sure what 15ml of methadone is, i mean how many mg, so its hard for me to give you a better answer

 

[BIGsherm7272]

She came here to ask a harm reduction question, not for you to get up on some high horse and criticize her parenting. who the fuck are you to level judgement at anyone? your obviously a drug addict like the rest of us or you wouldnt be blogging on a site devoted to drugs. Shes obviously trying to do better or she wouldnt be taking meth and subs in the first place. but even if she was going all out doing dope like crazy, who the hell are you to say anything about it?

Yes OP, your only choice is too wait as long as possible. i go for about 60 before trying it. then try like one mg and wait an hour to see how it makes you feel. im not sure what 15ml of methadone is, i mean how many mg, so its hard for me to give you a better answer

And I personally think that the best harm reduction for her and her children would be to quit doing drugs. Junkies do not make good parent FYI. And no, I have been clean for almost a year so I am not currently an addict. And I can say whatever the fuck I want about it. Her children are more than likely living in rather nasty living conditions, and do not really have a parent because she is too busy trying to score some heroin and using meth in it's place. Sounds like some good fucking harm reduction to me fuckwad.

 

[laudium]

You need to wait till your are in moderate WDs. Yes, the longer the better. You will feel much better the longer you wait. It will almost make you high because you feel better

How much methadone in mgs were you taking? is it 1ml=1mg ?
I can't remember how the shit is dosed out there. Over here in my state, its 1ml=10mg

It took me like 2-3 days to even start going into WD from methadone. So I would think the 3rd or 4th day would be Ideal. Start with a small amount of suboxone, wait, and if you feel nothing or better, you can dose more..

Im sure you have already passed this phase though. Goodluck

 

[poplar girl]

Thanx guys that makes more sense. And thanx also for support re not being judged for my parenting! My habbit isn't something I'm proud of, but my kids are a big factor in me remaining well, they only have me and therefore my priority as a parent is making sure that I am not too sick too look after them. Don't make the assumption that just because i'm addicted to gear I spend every last penny on it so I can spend all my time nodding off. I rarely gouch and my cupboards are never empty. And just for the record BIGperm my kids are not living 'nasty lives' far from it, honestly where do some people get off?!! We are a really close loving family and my kids are doing well in school and out, They are happy, confident and reallly well liked ......not wanting to go into too much detail, but my oldest is musically gifted and has my full support in making sure she has every opportunity open to her, ie stage school, piano lessons to name a few.....Save your pity for some more worthy cause, like starving kids in Africa, as it really is wasted on my kids!! I'm not a drinker and don't use other more 'socially acceptable' drugs, I reckon my parenting would be at more risk of being compromised if I were, however not sure you would be so quick to judge me then?!?

I'm surprised to find such a judgemental attitude here where I was sincerely looking for advice ........ especially from someone who is obviously a regular poster.........

maybe you're just a complete TWAT?!?

 

[HeroINpain]

The recommended time is 36 hours but try and go a lot longer as others have said!

 

[mister right]

Wait a very VERY long time, id say AT least 50-60 hours as Methadone i very long acting. i went into WDs once from taking Subs 36 hours after only 30mg of methadone. worst experience of my life.

This dude hit the nail on the head. I took a sub about 20 hours after my last dose of methadone and I wanted to die. I have NEVER EVER experienced anything like that or since then. Do yourself a favor and wait AT LEAST 3 days