stuttering from E?

[Ismene]

^^^

Strange, everyone I've ever known who had a stutter says they never stutter on E as it's so relaxing.

 

[Ismene]

I don't think it's from the E. Not in a million fucking years. People have periods of dysfluent speech all the time for countless reasons. Unless you are stuttering all the time then you were simply tired or anxious or the speech mechanism had a blip for a few seconds. Forget about it.

I've known people who stammer who say E is a blessing and relaxes them to the point that they can speak fluently for the first time in their lives.

 

[MazDan]

I don't think it's from the E. Not in a million fucking years. People have periods of dysfluent speech all the time for countless reasons. Unless you are stuttering all the time then you were simply tired or anxious or the speech mechanism had a blip for a few seconds. Forget about it.

I've known people who stammer who say E is a blessing and relaxes them to the point that they can speak fluently for the first time in their lives.

Ismene..............its important to understand that everyone is different..........I dont know if you read the thread I linked up there but it appears there are more than just one or two who have had this experience.

 

[Ismene]

Ismene..............its important to understand that everyone is different..........I dont know if you read the thread I linked up there but it appears there are more than just one or two who have had this experience.

Maybe it's just using the term stuttering. I know close friends who stutter and it's about a lot more than jumbling your words once or twice.

I'd agree that taking massive amounts of drugs, staying awake for 48 hours and being very tired could lead to you jumbling your words once or twice the day after. But I'd put that down to tiredness rather than E causing stuttering.

 

[Unlucky]

Strange, everyone I've ever known who had a stutter says they never stutter on E as it's so relaxing.

The issue is that people who dont usually stutter have known to develop one from long term use and experience the stutering even when their not on drugs.

K so the people who already have a stutter temporarily dont when their rolling but however it might be actually making their sturtering worse in the long run just like it does to non-stutterers. It may be just a quick fix that masks the problem temporarily only to make it worse the next time when their not high.

Its sorta like how the side effects of muscle relaxents and sleeping tablets in the long run can cause insomnia and agitation..ironic huh? things end up having the opposite effect of wat they were engineered for.

How bout the fact that A.D.D. (attention deficit disorder) medication like ritalin calms people down who have the condition but acts as a stimulant on people who dont. U cant say all my friends get energetic on speed how can it make u calm! As i pointed out in my example u have to realise people are different and the drugs and respond differently, u seem to defend E so much but fail to realise that its can actually have disasterous consequence on some people!

Try and keep an open mind!

 

[Ismene]

Has anyone ever said they've developed a stutter from taking E? I know some have said they've jumbled their words once or twice after they've been up for 3 days straight taking E every night - but that's got piss-all to do with stuttering. It isn't even the same sport.

I've got an open mind but that doesn't mean you have to close your mind to reason and commonsense.

 

[Unlucky]

Has anyone ever said they've developed a stutter from taking E?

Yes they have , thats wat this post is about, u mite wanna scroll up and read the OP's concerns.

 

[Ismene]

Well he uses the term "stuttering" whether he understands what stuttering is or not is another matter entirely. You don't "catch" stuttering for a week and then it goes away. It's not like foot warts

 

[xkrowcitats]

I don't know if I would call it stuttering. I have had this happen to me and it seems more like my mind is moving a lot faster than my mouth can keep up with so i 'trip' over words. I noticed this a little while after I finished with a binge. It goes away eventually. Just take a break and give your brain some rest

 

[Akumara]

I think it's different for different people. I'm a generally normal guy, not stupid but not extremely intelligent. I have a friend who is not one of the brightest in the bunch, and I've noticed his speech has become a bit impaired, and stutters happen quiet often.

He used to have impaired speech before pilling, I think that was from the weed he smoked even though he is a VERY light user. It all depends on how well developed your brain is and how tolerant you are to drugs, that's my opinion.

Personally, one or two days after dropping my sentences seem to scatter and I mumble and stutter a bit. But while dropping a hard pill it's very hard to focus on what you are trying to get across.

Haha one time, I was on a "practice date" through a shopping centre, and I wanted to try these new biccies I got, so I dropped the whole thing...And I was acting fine for like 10minutes after I peaked, but I slowly started stuttering, slurring and just stopping in the middle of every second sentence haha . Got abit nervous i guess. Mind you, she was a 100% anti-drug person so yer...I told her in the end but she wasn't too pissed off.

 

[Unlucky]

whether he understands what stuttering is or not is another matter entirely.

hahaha! ouch! thats harsh! give him a little more credit than that, its not rocket science for one to work out when their stuttering.

May I ask where did u get ure phd. in pharmacology and neurology, I bet your some professor who knows every reaction and response from long term drug use right?
The way u go on about it could have fooled me.
Ive read alot of articles from worlds foremost leading researchers in the topic and even their humble enough to admit that not every aspect of long term drug use on humans is known yet, I bet u can enlighten them though.

 

[hardnrgchickens]

i was stuttering at one point it was getting really bad 90% of my convos would end in me not being able 2 say a word. now its just a few but it does seem worse if i dropped the weekend b4.
breaks are your friend, i wonder if eating 5htp for a few days after you have droped will help or not

 

[Ismene]

its not rocket science for one to work out when their stuttering.



But it's easy for someone with no knowledge of stuttering to stumble over a word once or twice and then imagine that's what stuttering is. Everyone on earth stumbles over their words at some point. It's not exactly an uncommon occurence.

May I ask where did u get ure phd. in pharmacology and neurology

The University of Fuckedifiknow, England.

Ive read alot of articles from worlds foremost leading researchers in the topic

Who are these foremost leading researchers? Do you mean guys like Dr. George Ricarte, the leading MDMA researcher at Johns Hopkins Medical Center?

 

[motorcyclist]

E is a mistress that demands respect (respect = limiting use to once every month or 2). If you abuse her she is going to kick your ass in the long run and make you pay a price for the lack of respect

 

[Ismene]

If there's anyone who truly thinks Ecstasy has given them a stutter could they go to a certified speech therapist and see whether or not the expert confirms their self-diagnosis.

 

[Jimboach]

I've been doing e prolly every two weeks to every weekend for about 6 months to a year. I haven't noticed any negative effects from it, no depression or feeling any stupider, etc.

Umm...*cough*...ahem, "stupider is not a word. Just thought you might want to know that when trying to convince us of your current intellectual state or change thereof. :D

I don't think it's from the E. Not in a million fucking years. People have periods of dysfluent speech all the time for countless reasons. Unless you are stuttering all the time then you were simply tired or anxious or the speech mechanism had a blip for a few seconds. Forget about it.

I've known people who stammer who say E is a blessing and relaxes them to the point that they can speak fluently for the first time in their lives.

Just because cigarettes cause cancer doesn't mean they are the only cause of cancer. The same goes for E. Stuttering may be caused by many things but I think it's pretty common knowledge that some people, through abuse, may develop a stutter. To ignore this glaring possibility is silly and harmful not only for the user, but for the overall image of the drug that we all enjoy.

When one person abuses a drug and is harmed as a result, it sends a bad message out to everyone and villainizes it which perpetuates the negative image that is widely accepted in society. We all need to work together to be responsible users so that we have some hope of one day having a safer product that isn't only available on the black market.

In a nutshell, be safe for yourself, me, and everybody.

 

[Ismene]

Just because cigarettes cause cancer doesn't mean they are the only cause of cancer. The same goes for E. Stuttering may be caused by many things but I think it's pretty common knowledge that some people, through abuse, may develop a stutter.

Is it? Could you link me up to a reliable case in the medical literature? I've read a tremendous amount on stuttering and never in my life I have ever heard of a single case of a stutter being caused by Ecstasy. I think we need to distuingish between kids self-diagnosing themselves on drug boards and genuine conditions. If you believe everything you read on drug message boards you'll be falling victim to "K-gout" and thinking you will turn into a glass of orange juice if you take LSD.

Sure - if you drink 10 bottles of whiskey a day and eat 10 grams of E a week then after a few years you might slur and stumble over your words every now and again. But that's not stuttering.

When one person abuses a drug and is harmed as a result, it sends a bad message out to everyone and villainizes it which perpetuates the negative image that is widely accepted in society. We all need to work together to be responsible users so that we have some hope of one day having a safer product that isn't only available on the black market.


I agree with all of this. But I also think we still need to have some reason and commonsense. It's very easy for people using illegal drugs to believe anything. All you need is one kid to say "I get a wart on my arse every time I take E" and before the week is out you will have 400 people claiming "It is well known that Ecstasy gives you warts on your arse".

 

[Jimboach]

Let's keep in mind, I used the word abuse and not use.

I hate answering questions with questions but I have to in this case for lack of an answer: Could YOU link me up to a reliable case in medical literature that proves/disproves MOST commonly accepted side effects both long term and short term?

Everything here is based on speculation and learning from the personal experiences of others. I think it's in everyone's best interest to err on the safe side. You used a very extreme case with the whiskey metaphor but with the attractive nature of E, it's not that far from reality and YES it is most definitely stuttering.

I won't let this blow up into a full fledged arguement. Plenty of people mention suttering or slurring as a long term effect to E abuse. I don't see the sense in being such a skeptic about it.

 

[Ismene]

Yeah but anonymous kids on drug boards say lots of things. If what an anonymous kid says on a drugboard isn't supported by a single case in medical history then surely you have to have doubts? Isn't that reasonable?

Millions upon millions of people have been taking E for the last 20-30 years. You'd expect there to be one acknowledged case in medical literature saying "E caused stuttering" by now.

 

[Jimboach]

I love when people use broad sweeping generalized statements like ,"I've read a lot of articles from the best researchers blah blah blah" but don't back that statement up.

I read an article in cosmo once from the leading authorities in style and fashion and now i can tell anyone if they are a "Jen or Angelina" in 10 easy steps. I consider myself an expert now. Booyah.