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Struggling to get this down my throat...

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Struggling to get this down my throat... (Kratom)

Kratom. You son of a bitch. You taste so bad, but I'm so goddam bored and I want you.

I've managed to get down about 8g so far, but everytime I go to swallow some more (mixed with OJ with an OJ chaser ready), I wretch. It's the thought of the powder touching my lips, even thinking about it now is making me feel sick. I don't know why, but something about it is just not right.

Anyone got any tips for getting it down? I'm holding my nose so I can't smell it (or taste it much) but the feeling of that powder... *shudders*.

I know you can get capsules, but I don't have any right now :(

Also, I don't know about you, but the idea of swallowing toilet paper really doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. Oh and can you redose kratom? It's taken me about a half hour to get this much down so far so by the time I get to my desired dose (13g), it's gonna be wearing off.

/fussy little bitch.
 
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Yeah, it's been sat there for about 4 months now. I tried 5g when I first got it (nowhere near enough) and struggled to choke that down. I'll probably just throw what's left after this away... it's really not for me. I'll just stick to doing CWEs on codeine, can't go wrong :)
 
Instead of using toilet paper why not use rolling paper? If you have those flavoured skins around, even better. Mix it in with something but that will most likely waste some.
 
Does kratom really taste that bad? I always hear that... really need to get on trying it myself!

What's it like compared to say cwe codeine?
 
Oh man it's so much worse than CWE. I've seen people post saying they don't mind the taste, or even like it, but they must have no tastebuds or something. There's a very noticeable "mintyness" to it. Not like tasting something minty, like a mint, but it just has a hint of mint.

I know CWE water is bad, but if you don't mix it with anything and just throw it down like a shot then chase it with some Fanta (orange soda) I don't even taste it.

Kratom (powdered atleast - only one I've tried) has a texture to it that just doesn't sit right with me. As soon as I feel it in my mouth I just lose it and struggle not to vomit.

Maybe I'm just a wuss.
 
Shit, I know that feeling. OK, a few things that have helped me ingest cups of vile sludge (barrels of pod slurry, my best friend's lukewarm Spirulina/mystery herb combo, kratom):

1. Have an effervescent, highly-flavored chaser on hand to gulp in small quantities after each 1/4 of the remaining liquid. IMO Dr. Pepper works best with a number of noxious gloppy goos or ill-tasting powders. Mountain Dew is surprisingly bad for the purpose. Coke is okay, Cherry Coke is far better.

I'm not a soda drinker, but I've found that the intense carbonation and artificial flavors of soda makes it especially effective. Using the same juice as a chaser and as the medium for your powder probably isn't helping. You want to give yourself a mental and physical break from your task. Also, the carbonation in soda scours the powder and the taste out of your mouth.

2. Take a deep breath and focus on tightening your diaphragm and keeping it tight. This combats urges to spurt the goo out the wrong way.

3. Visualize the gloop as a nice, flowing liquid that's coursing through your lower regions toward the earth. I know this sounds like new age shit, but it works. Visualization is one way to distract your mind from the "thought of the powder touching your lips."

It's a mental challenge more than a physical challenge, so having a number of visualizations/complex mental topics to think about will help to distract you from the task at hand and mouth. Doing long division in your head or reciting poetry or foreign language verb conjugations are things that can help too.

4. I also loathe the thought and feeling of toilet paper in my mouth. So when I parachute powders, I use rolling papers. Works very well for me.

5. I don't know enough about Kratom to give you a perfectly well-informed answer on re-dosing. I do know that when I've taken it, the effects have lasted several hours - certainly long enough to consume the rest of your current dose.

6. You might also want to try different mixers in the future. With pods, grapefruit juice (freshly squeezed and bitter) works very well because the bitterness of the GFJ masks the bitterness of the pods and there's some sort of flavor synergy that comes into play.

If you stick with juice, use a juice with pulp to suspend the particles of powder. And try adding a tiny bit of carbonated water to help swish the mixture down. These things have worked for me when I've hit the wall with pod powder.

You're not fussy or a "bitch." It's natural for the body to try to stop ingestion of things that it thinks may be poison… in other words, things that smell or taste bad. So, mind over matter. Practice a bit, FOCUS, and you'll be able to conquer the challenge.
 
Thanks for the very informative post artaxerxes!

Been trying to remember my learn japanese tapes that I haven't looked at in months to take my mind off it, but I've never been very good at mental fortitude. I also find carbonated stuff works best (with CWE's atleast), but all I have is some flat orange soda. I had the same thought with the pulped juice, but for some reason the powder is just sitting on top no matter how vigorously I mix the bastard.

Gonna keep trying and will be saving your post for future reference :D

I'm really looking forward to trying pods sometime soon, but if the taste/texture is anything like this... :(

Thanks again for taking the time to type all that out :)

Oh and for those that were asking about the taste... on top of the mintyness, there's definitely a bit of wasabi/horseradish in there. Fucking rank.
 
Also, anyone know if alcohol synergizes well with kratom? I'm not a big alcohol fan but you're right... no fireworks so was just hoping to give it a little boost. Or even diphenhydramine?
 
Don't think anything can be worse than nutmeg. I'd try with the toilet paper, or a j paper. You'll find that it's really just a stigma, it's not really that bad
 
Easiest way I found was to do it like a Goody Powder/BC Powder. Take a piece of stiff paper about 3 or 4 inches long, and 2 inches wide. Fold in half to form a funnel, pour powder into funnel, put funnel to mouth, pour contents into BACK of mouth, behind taste buds, and follow up with beverage of choice. Simple, neat, and easy.
 
Fair enough. I gave up after about 10 grams, I just couldn't do it anymore. Gonna order some capsules off ebay or something and do the rest of it with some codeine or something. Maybe some weed. Cheers for the warning :)
 
I didn't mind the taste of Kratom much, it was the fact that I just couldn't resist breathing with a lump of it on my tongue and I ended up inhaling some of it... it was awful
 
Dude at least put the word KRATOM in your thread title so people know what its about.

Not to mention the people in the future who will be doing a thread title search for "kratom taste" and miss out on your thread because of the name.

I know people like to post cute thread titles, but if it turns into a good discussion it literally will be of no use down the road since people searching will never find it.

Please edit the title and at least put (Kratom) is parenthesis at the end!

Thanks.


JB
Thread Title Nazi
 
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