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STRIKE - Scab bastards

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Imagination will be illegal soon, Kate, and reclassified as 'anti-social delusion'. However the state will provide appropriate medication to help. Or the new euthanasia laws will be pension linked to solve the problem. (another gem from the Ickies)
 
Who to? There's no fucking unions left in the private sector.

Be good if the police pension was cut drastically. They're on 2/3rds final salary index linked from the age of 50. So a rock bottom PC on 33 grand a year basic would be raking in 22 grand a year pension which is index linked so it goes up every year. If they live 30-40 years they'll be raking in near enough a cool million.

Many public sector jobs are chosen as a vocation and are low paid compared to other areas of the market where similarly skilled people are paid more. Given the benefit these people bring to society, the least they can have hope for is a secure retirement I would like to think.
 
However the state will provide appropriate medication to help. Or the new euthanasia laws will be pension linked to solve the problem. (another gem from the Ickies)

at the rate things are going, i'd quite like them to start mandatorily drugging us all, anything to sugar the pill of shite they're forcingus to swallow.

but yeah charlie, i agree that below 45, there's little reason to suppose the current state of things will be the same when(/if) we retire, but we should still try to protect whats good. i mean can we seriously envisage them actively improving? stopping them getting diluted too far seems to be the only option we have to safeguard our retirements.
 
The thing that fucks me off about this strike is that Prentice is blatantly going to fold as soon as one more concession is made. He loves hobnobbing with ministers and to be honest his mandate to strike (29% turnout, 78% yes) is arguably weak.

The entire country is represented after a general election 'victory' with even weaker margins.
 
what if the union is made up of, and led by monkeys.
better monkeys [incl their silly personal power agendas] fighting for you, than no-one at all tho, eh?

ps: as Brit institutions go, I heart theee Royal 'with lots of hawt strapping' Mails working for it, a fuckton and a half, despite its flaws <3

[they bring me awesome jiffy envelopes full of @<3@<3@<3@ and make me happeeee, esp my mum's kick arse & tattoed one, who gets a £20 tip every year for his sheer awesomeness & ingenuity to leave us parcels when we're nawt home so we don't haveta go pick em up at an inconvenience ... ]
 
Many public sector jobs are chosen as a vocation and are low paid compared to other areas of the market where similarly skilled people are paid more. Given the benefit these people bring to society, the least they can have hope for is a secure retirement I would like to think.

Nah JB, perhaps that was true in the 60's or 70's but since Thatcher changed the world of work in the 80's the chances of finding a job in the private sector paying as much as the public and even having a company pension at all are few and far between. Certainly every job I've ever seen advertised always pays massively more in the public sector.

You only have to look at what's happening with the prison officers - ones employed by the public sector get about £14 an hour plus the gold plated pension. Those employed in the new privatised prisons are on something like £6.50 an hour and no pension.
 
Forgive me Ismene, I know nothing about the sector I personally work in. I'm certainly on at least 10k less than working in the private sector.

There are of course other reasons why I'd stick that out.
 
As a private sector worker that hasn't had any payrise in the last three years I find it hard to care two shits about the plight of my pensioned up public sector pals.

The exception being my girlfriend who's a nurse. I have deep respect for what they do compared to some city council arse scratcher. i can't see her striking anytime soon, she'd be too worried about her patients.
 
As a private sector worker that hasn't had any payrise in the last three years I find it hard to care two shits about the plight of my pensioned up public sector pals.

whilst i repsect your democratic right to be selfish, i don't respect your double standards.

if your gf is as caring for her fellow man as you, i imagine she'd have no problem leaving her patients.
 
Certainly every job I've ever seen advertised always pays massively more in the public sector.

You live on another planet.

Or you're a screw.

I'm sure you'll find the ONS stats saying public workers get 7% more.

And I'm sure you'll miss out the bit where it explains this is because all the shit-scum low-paid jobs have been outsourced to the private sector (leaving higher grade, older, established, higher paid people). Like-for-like almost anybody else is better off (in pay) in the private sector. Nice of you to stick up for the lowly paid immigrants though Izzy.
 
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whilst i repsect your democratic right to be selfish, i don't respect your double standards.

I understand this bit

if your gf is as caring for her fellow man as you, i imagine she'd have no problem leaving her patients.

This baffles me. So if she was as selfish as I am she would strike and leave her patients?

So only the nurses in the public sector are deserving of any respect? Fucking moron.

Cool your jets. I only have a real issue with the dead wood that most councils are full of. I see them every day. People that take the lift up to the first floor.

All I was saying is in mine and many other people's jobs it's quite straight forward-
Employee incentive: Work or get fired
 
This baffles me. So if she was as selfish as I am she would strike and leave her patients?



All I was saying is in mine and many other people's jobs it's quite straight forward-
Employee incentive: Work or get fired

not necessarily strike, just if it suited her really. the point is, you clearly understand that some people need to act selflessly- nurses for one- for society to work, but are not prepared to do so yourself. even when in this case 'doing' is just having a bit of sympathy. essentially- if everyone was like you we'd be even more fucked than we already are.

erm, ditto in the public sector. what information do you have on which to base your conclusions that these people are dead weight, other than prejudice about public sector jobs?

(btw, not been clear in this thread- i don't actually work for the public sector, have cleverly avoided ganiful employment thus far)
 
Private sector/public sector - how many 'jobs' really matter and how many exist for the sake of keeping folk 'in work'? Let the machines do the work and free the people to a life of leisure, sez I.

Trouble is, a lot of people can't handle life without their job. They get ''bored'' or complain of ''Sundayitis''

How queer.
 
Private sector/public sector - how many 'jobs' really matter and how many exist for the sake of keeping folk 'in work'? Let the machines do the work and free the people to a life of leisure, sez I.

Anarchist.

Trouble is, a lot of people can't handle life without their job. They get ''bored'' or complain of ''Sundayitis''

How queer.

They tell me the lobotomy is painless but I'm not so sure.
 
better monkeys [incl their silly personal power agendas] fighting for you, than no-one at all tho, eh?

ps: as Brit institutions go, I heart theee Royal 'with lots of hawt strapping' Mails working for it, a fuckton and a half, despite its flaws <3

We are brilliant Marmalde, thanks for that<3, nice to know someone appreciates our hard work.

I busy cleaning house for impending mother-in-law vist, but i WILL explain later why our union leaders realy have lost the plot this time, it's a long story, so please tell me if you're not interested, cos once I start I start to rant, is very close to my. heart this one.
 
I'm guessing most people know where I stand on this issue... If we left pensions in the public sector the way they are we will be absolutely fucked. Even the basic state pension is a pyramid scheme, whereby we need an ever growing population to support our ever burgeoning 65+ population. Many people seem to be saying that the fact private sector workers don't get pensions of this quality isn't an argument as to why the public sector workers should have theirs reduced. Well, maybe, just maybe, private sector workers could afford a half decent pension (heck any pension at all would be nice given that 6/7 don't have one at all) if they weren't forced to spend their entire working lives propping up public sector workers pensions? I fucking hate unions, their self entitlement complex sickens me - and enough is never enough with them. You could all retire at 30 and drive Porsches and they'd still demand more. Ah well, i'm just glad that the people who we gave public sector jobs of the highest importance to aren't using those jobs to blackmail us into giving them a much higher standard of living than the rest of the country... O wait, they are.

It's not that I don't respect the jobs that public sector workers do, I just don't think they aren't any more important than the private sector jobs which need to be done to pay their wages - which they regularly seem to forget. When they go around creating bills, someone else has to work in a job with zero job satisfaction until the grave to pay for it. And before you say private sector people should unionise - good luck. Business would fall apart if private sector companies had to contribute as highly as the government into pension pots. Furthermore the majority of the country work in SME businesses with 4 or less employees - it's a bit difficult to get a good union going with that don't you think? If you think the private sector is so good, and pays more, then you must be retarded not to work in it. You must see that your pension is better, your pay is better, your extras are better, your job security is higher, and your general day to day working life provides far more satisfaction than 99% of private sector jobs? This is why we live in a world where tube drivers earn £50k a year and bosses of small firms who employ a handful of people make a loss and end up making nothing.
 
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