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Street Junkies/ Drinkers tell yeer story

I've always had work and been able to afford to keep myself in relative luxury but I'm always aware that it would only take a combination of a few events for things to work out quite differently, i.e. can't get work, can't get help, can't pay rent/mortgage, on the street.

The streets are going to be busier soon too with the government making disability claimants go to tribunals and cutting their housing benefit no questions asked.

I don't like the Big Issue, it's politics are shit, it was celebrity-edited by David Cameron recently, so I'd rather not buy it but if you ask me for a couple of quid towards some skag I'll probably give you it and then ask if you know there's a drought on...
 
Big issue vendors / homeless are not mutually exclusive, the big issue is there to provide homeless folk with a way of earning some dollah and I try to support them when ever I can.

The reason the romanians are all over selling the big issue is because of a loophole in the law, they are not allowed to come over here and claim benefits.. but if they come over here and register as self employed which big issue vendors have to do they are then entitled to to claim housing benefit / tax credits / child benefit / BLAH BLAH

Ah, i didn't know that about been self employed ect, it makes sense alright!

I've never really been homeless, well not on the streets, when i was 17 i got kicked out of the flat i was renting, but luckily i had mates whos sofa's i crashed on for a few months! These days i'm like Kate, i have job family ect, By day i hold things together, by night is another story! 8(

@ Cherry, i think you meant to write £100 a day, £100 a week wouldn't get you much heroin or crack! Glad to hear your doing so well now! I have never seen someone get strung out as quick as you did! Thank god you managed to get off it all as quick! Pity you got on a methadone script, you would have been much better off doing your own quick detox on methadone. I got clean once years ago that way, i'd only been using heroin about a year at the time & i managed to do a quick detox with methadone in 3 weeks & i was fine after & totally clean! :) I only managed to stay clean for 3 months though! :( I find that once you start getting prescribed methadone its never that easy to get off! Best of luck, you sound like your doing really well!!! :) Try get off methadone as quick as you can! <3
 
^ I did actually mean 100 a day,it shocks me to see that! I was doing 5 snowballs a day at my worst.

Yeah, I did jump in feet first. I've never been one for doing things in halves, and yeah, thank god I managed to kick the habit as fast as I got it. Though the temptation is still always there in the back of my head. Usually when something has gone wrong and I need an escape. The reason I'm on Methadone is I needed to be on a script ASAP, I couldn't have waited the weeks it would have been with my doctor. So, I did the script in a day trial, and the only thing they prescribe is Methadone. Yes, I'm now stuck with a pair of green handcuffs, but the way I was going I was headed for time on probation or jail aftermy last court appearance. Thankfully I had a good solicitor.

I'm down to 45 ml now, and asking to go down another 5 when my script is up for renewal in a few days. Seeing my key worker on Friday to discuss what I want long term. I DO know I will relapse again if I stay in Bristol, It's happened once already,but I surrounded myself with my good friends after it happened, so I killed it dead before I could continue.
 
Knock knock
Who's there ?
Big ish
Big ish who
Not today mate , I bought it yesterday.

I allways have a chat and give them change (the proper English guys ) not some fucking idiot pretending to sell. They have helped me out a few times stuck in a town/city and needing to score.
 
Skint as a mofo 2day n on the way back from the dentist i bumped in2 a good freind of mine from back in the day he's in his 50s n sufferers from really bad physicall disabilitys from a accident he also has Mental health issues liuke myself.

We get on really well n can understand where each other are coming from .
I was well happy when he told me he had also got a flat :) n things were good for him .

He could tell i was skint as soon as i asked him for a roll up n just handed me a £5 no questions , it made me feel really good as if it were the other way round i woulda done the same for him .

This is a good example of the comraderie that street folk can build and also re enforces about their being a kinda code about looking out for one another.

Thanks .... yer a diamond <3
 
^ I did actually mean 100 a day,it shocks me to see that! I was doing 5 snowballs a day at my worst.

Yeah, I did jump in feet first. I've never been one for doing things in halves, and yeah, thank god I managed to kick the habit as fast as I got it. Though the temptation is still always there in the back of my head. Usually when something has gone wrong and I need an escape. The reason I'm on Methadone is I needed to be on a script ASAP, I couldn't have waited the weeks it would have been with my doctor. So, I did the script in a day trial, and the only thing they prescribe is Methadone. Yes, I'm now stuck with a pair of green handcuffs, but the way I was going I was headed for time on probation or jail aftermy last court appearance. Thankfully I had a good solicitor.

I'm down to 45 ml now, and asking to go down another 5 when my script is up for renewal in a few days. Seeing my key worker on Friday to discuss what I want long term. I DO know I will relapse again if I stay in Bristol, It's happened once already,but I surrounded myself with my good friends after it happened, so I killed it dead before I could continue.

The main thing is that you are doing well now! Stick with it! Its good that you are surrounding yourself with good people, that is very important!

Maybe you should give yourself a limit to get off methadone, maybe 3 months or something! You know whats best for you! As i said when i was first using heroin i did a quick 3 week detox using methadone, i had only been using heroin for a year at the time so it was much easier to get clean, i stayed clean for 3 months. Then one night i was so happy with myself for doing so well that i went out & scored to celebrate, i thought i'd just do it once for old times sake, a little threat coz i'd been doing so well, the rest is history..... :(

But your doing great now, fair play to you!!! :) At least you got away from heroin before things got anymore serious! It with threads like this that you can see that heavy drug addiction cat lead to homelessness & worse. Good luck with recovery!!! :)

@ Brimz! :) Hiya! This is a great idea for a thread! I was never on the streets when i was homeless so i don't have much to add, but i have had a fairly chaotic life! Anyway Brimz i think you should start a blog, i'm sure you have many stories to share from the last 15 years! I know i for one would read you blog! & you never know if the right person read it it could even get published!!! Selling your own book sure beats selling the Big Issue! Make sure you tell us if you do start a blog, its clear to see from this thread that plenty of people would love to read it!!!! :)
 
Well it's a good job some welcoming folk Northern Ireland could put their own sectarian bigotry aside to unite to burn them out of house and home. 8)

To be fair probably makes them feel like just like back in Romania really....

I think Roma/Gypsies selling the big issue does happen in lots of parts of the UK, not denying it as i've actually seen it (happens a bit in Cardiff too), although I don't know the details about the supposed benefit claiming stuff, there was some court ruling a day ago about benefit stuff though apparently. Pretty amazed that several of you have never seen anyone but Romanians selling the Big Issue in Belfast/N. Ireland? Is there not a 'native' homeless street population too, like everywhere?

Of course, but like I said they don't tend to sell the Big Issue here and it is pretty much entirely Romanians who do so. It does seem to be different to the rest of the UK and I think you're missing that.
 
Have never been homeless thankfully as it is one of my worst fears.
I would absolutely dread being homeless and having to live on the streets. Winter time must be a real nightmare,being out in the cold all day and night.

Totally agree with Maxalfie
 
I still had a flat but thats not what defines a street person, many have accomadation.

I'd actually like to know how you would define a "street person", and how the Big Issue organisation would define them. I think many people believe that Big Issue vendors are supposed to be homeless - sleeping in a bag on the ground or under a hedge. What are the rules on who gets to be a vendor and how long they can stay as a vendor?
 
Are't Big Issue salesmen only supposed to keep the job for six or nine months, then relinquish it to give the new homeless a chance? Here, the same guys have held the same pitches for years, so it doesn't seem a rule written in stone.


How do you think I supported a 100 quid a day smack and crack habit for months? It certainly wasn't paid for by my dole.
If I go into any detail, i'll only incriminate myself further. It did not involve robbing people, selling drugs or myself.
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What could it be? How did CCF pull in a hundred quid a day without recourse to traditional junkie methods? Mucky pictures? Online fraud? A good line in begging letters? I suppose a girl has to keep her secrets and we can only wonder.
 
I'd actually like to know how you would define a "street person", and how the Big Issue organisation would define them. I think many people believe that Big Issue vendors are supposed to be homeless - sleeping in a bag on the ground or under a hedge. What are the rules on who gets to be a vendor and how long they can stay as a vendor?

Right you are allowed to sell the Big Issue if you are homeless or in vulnerable accomadation like a Hostel thats the actuall rules.,

When i sold it n we are talkin about 1999/2001 i was in a hostel thus making me vulnerable to being made homeless.
I sold it in my home town & Glasgow as well i was proper;y street homeless in Glasgow for a while n then i hooked up with another vendor who let me stay at her flat so i was still techincally homeless.

You have to adear to a strict code n are given a probation period when you first start they try n make it as much like a real job as poss. also all your magazines will have a no. on them which will tie in with your badge no. so if you are taking the piss a member of the public can report you n cos the no. on the magazine links to your badge if you give magazines to other people like Wcote claims his friends do you will get de badged if you are caught.

I would describe the street lifestyle as roughly spending most of your time on the streets n using the outreach and soup kitchens that are availible also it's kinda like a community with rules n you generally look out for other folk in the same boat although this is often not the case n their is a fair bit of scrapping n such over booze mainly no surprises their !!
As i mentioned i lived the street lifestyle for years despite having stable accomadation the reason for this is you get stuck in a cycle of daily drug use (physicall addiction ) or alchololisim and your only freinds are other folk who have the same problems .
So you start to rely on each other hence the i'll lend you £20 till yer pay day if you lend me £20 n so on these arangements can cary on for years !!

IIts a really hard cycle to break as you form really strong bonds with yer mates and because other members of society identify you as a Street person they generally judge you without even realising.
I stopped living like that on the 5 th of Jan last year n its still really early days i have managed to hook up with some of my old friends but most of em won't trust me n atre judgemental , the way isee it is if they are gonna be like that i don't need them .
Although i was living like this for about 15 years i strill managed to go abroad on extended holidays n such like i said i was in Portugal for over a year n was homeless their for a short while.

Due to the way addiction makes you change the way you think i can find an angle in a circle if i need to or i needed money for Heroin when i was sick.
At the height of my problem io was doing about 2 grams of gear a day and 1 gram of crack i will leave it to you to work out how this was payed for it doesn't take much imagination n didn't involve any crimes aginst other people like theft .

This is a very honest post n i would hope that you all can respect that it wasn't easy to write n i have left out loads of stuff but all that i have said is from my own life n personal experience.
Bearing this in mind i would appreciate if you don't like some of what i have just said then you keep it to yerself as i am only answering a fellow BLers question , i'm not looking for judgement .

If anyone wants further info or has questions i will answer them over pms ok

Peace.<3
 
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Are't Big Issue salesmen only supposed to keep the job for six or nine months, then relinquish it to give the new homeless a chance? Here, the same guys have held the same pitches for years, so it doesn't seem a rule written in stone.

Yes in theory this is the actuall rule but you are right it gets abused n some folk have been on the same pitch for decades.
A good friend of mine who is now deceased worked a pitch for 12 years he had a council flat .

Unlike 99% of vendors he would actually declare his earnings n pay tax !!
It was his proper job like some folk may go to the office he went to the Big Issue office .
 
When i lived in Hackney and had a big habit I knew nearly every fucking dealer there was and so ended up meeting lots of street people who would be waiting in the same places, or needing a few quid to make a score, putting our money together to make it cheaper. Some were cool and honest some were complete scum bags. Had a few mental times with a couple from spain who went down hilll very quickly, within 2 years went from havin a flat and a small habit but looking quite smart and use to beg with a good story and make 100-200 a day but then the white came in and the habit grew the health went, lost the flat ended up on friends floors. He started hitting his fem and got a dvt , then another one and lost his leg - ended up topping himself. She managed to get back to spain and I hope managed to get her life together. I knew at least a dozen spanish , all from Galicia and all really fucking hardcore like they had a death wish - saw two die in front of me from OD's one was only 17 - that was weird she had a hit was walking about talking for a minute or so then sat and started gouching and within a couple of minutes her lips were blue we tried everything to keep her goin , it still chokes me up now cos she looked so innocent, i was doing CPR with the para medics on the fone telling us what to do they were there within 7-8 miins but it was too late.

I was thinking we should start a thread 'Heroin war stories' tales of adventure in heroin land - wadya think?
 
In theory it would be really entertaining i know i could contribute some good stuff from all over the u.k n europe.

I'm sure i ain;t the only one

Problem is about self incriminating i can't tell any of the good stuuf / crazy shit without putting myself in a dubious position .
 
The main thing is that you are doing well now! Stick with it! Its good that you are surrounding yourself with good people, that is very important!

Maybe you should give yourself a limit to get off methadone, maybe 3 months or something! You know whats best for you! As i said when i was first using heroin i did a quick 3 week detox using methadone, i had only been using heroin for a year at the time so it was much easier to get clean, i stayed clean for 3 months. Then one night i was so happy with myself for doing so well that i went out & scored to celebrate, i thought i'd just do it once for old times sake, a little threat coz i'd been doing so well, the rest is history..... :(

But your doing great now, fair play to you!!! :) At least you got away from heroin before things got anymore serious! It with threads like this that you can see that heavy drug addiction cat lead to homelessness & worse. Good luck with recovery!!! :)

I AM losing my flat as a result of my using. I've breached my injunction and ASBO that was placed on me after being raided, then raided again looking for people here who were on a warrant. Even though i've not made a noise for the past two months, and my neighbours have thanked me!

I hadn't fully decided to leave Bristol,but my neighbourhood officer blackmailed me,and said he wouldn't put the application into court to have me maybe sent to jail for 8 weeks (With my arrest and court record,they might very well do it).So, I had to decide to leave voluntarily. I now want to stay in Bristol, so according to the council I've made myself intentionally homeless, so I won't get any support.

So, it's back to live with my sister to deal with a methadone taper at hers, (she don't know i've been using, or that i'm on methadone,she'd kick me out) and deal with her bad attitude towards my bad mental health, and pushing me into full time work when i'm not ready!

I'm going to a local drop in place for advice,as he HAS to have broken rules by blackmailing me. He did this the day after I found out a friend had died,I was all over the place.I could see he took some sick satisfaction in seeing me break down. Cunt!

Life is fucking brilliant right now,.
 
^^ that's the same as me brimz, I'd love to contribute some of my stories but like you said, it's a bit dodgy! Let's just say I got in with the biggest gang in my town and got into a lot of trouble with some of the street peeps and pretty close to getting into trouble with the law!
 
Although i was living like this for about 15 years i strill managed to go abroad on extended holidays n such like i said i was in Portugal for over a year n was homeless their for a short while.


The positive side of homelessness; whenever a cut price ticket is available, you can relocate at the drop of a hat.

Due to the way addiction makes you change the way you think i can find an angle in a circle if i need to or i needed money for Heroin when i was sick.


Oh, yes.
 
^^ that's the same as me brimz, I'd love to contribute some of my stories but like you said, it's a bit dodgy! Let's just say I got in with the biggest gang in my town and got into a lot of trouble with some of the street peeps and pretty close to getting into trouble with the law!
Don't leave us hanging. I would be fascinated to hear your stories of those times.
 
Of course, but like I said they don't tend to sell the Big Issue here and it is pretty much entirely Romanians who do so. It does seem to be different to the rest of the UK and I think you're missing that.

The ones around the Belfast/Lisburn area are usually arseholes.
 
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