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Bupe strange, sadistic doctor?

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KillSurfCity

KillSurfCity

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one of my friends went on bupe today. he was obviously high on oxycodone when he went to the clinic and the doctor made him take a dose of bupe right there in front of him in the office and after about 4 hours my friend went in to RADICAL precipitated WD. he is MEGA sick. have any of you seen a doctor start someone out on bupe like this? i find it very odd, indeed...
 
Thats just sick....Doesn't surprise me though..doctors are getting careless and more judgmental with the high profile of addiction. I had a doctor say withdrawal was good for me once...she thought I was some naive dope fiend...I was on Percocet 5's 3x a day after begging for pain relief. You know how cops sometimes have to get tazered or volunteer to see what it feels like? I think pain docs should have to get Narcan'ed after a strong dose of Morphine or Dilaudid...so many docs just really need to feel what its like to be in pain or under the influence of opioids instead of guessing and watching. Anyways if I was your friend I'd grab some Fentanyl to overpower the bupe, although that might be dangerous dunno.
 
I think pain docs should have to get Narcan'ed after a strong dose of Morphine or Dilaudid
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I don't think that would do anything if they weren't opioid dependent. The Narcan would just sober them up... not give them withdrawals out of nowhere.
 
Thats honestly really fucked up man...if i was your friend id say fuck that doc and go to someone who actually gives a flying fuck. All the sub docs ive ever had, which albeit had only been a few, but they always made me wait 3 days after my last dose of oxy or heroin to dose the sub so i wouldnt go into precipitated withdrawal...they always piss tested me too to see where my levels were, and if they were still too high i had to wait another day. Some docs do actually care, you just gotta do some searching and find the right one. Tell your buddy to hang in there! They shouldnt last very long, and once the bupe fully takes over the receptors he should be feeling better. Just dont take anymore bupe as it wont do anything but make it worse.
 
Honestly, yeah, I have heard of many sub doctors beginning induction right then and there. From what my friends have told me, the doctors were told by R&B that this is when to use Subutex (buprenorphine mono agent), because they were still misleading doctors, the FDA, everyone, educating doctors that "the truth was that the naloxone was what induced precipitated withdrawals, but R&B knew all along that precipitated withdrawals are a result of buprenorphine itself, due to it having a higher binding affinity than most other competing commonly abused full-agonists, but R&B made millions more dollars on their investment by remaining silent and misleading doctors by telling them naloxone actively prevents misuse, when it doesn't."

So I doubt your doctors sadistic, just blatantly unaware about the drugs he's prescribing and how they work in the real world vs. how they work on paper and or via the Suboxone Powerpoint Presentation "qualification course" doctors must do to become authorized suboxone doctors.

I'm going to close this, since we can't speculate further.
 
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