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Strange MDMA Reaction - Thoughts?

azimuth

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Hi all - new to this site. 5'11", 175. Great diet, decently active, fast metabolism. No medications (aside from Nasonex). No extensive MDMA history but my few rolls have been successful. ... also, apologies for the impending TLDR.

Recently I bought some moonrock MDMA from a reputable source. Tested with Mecke and it turned straight to blue with lots of fizzing and wound up nearly black. From what I gathered that's a good sign.

I've now tried this batch twice and have had odd, frustrating reactions both times, while my partner, who has taken the same amount, has had an incredible experience each time.

The first time was at a concert where my S.O. and I each ingested approx 160mg. Pre-roll conditions were not as ideal as I'd wish - ate a big meal about an hour before ingestion; conditions in the venue were super hot and humid and I was sweating profusely. The come up took about 45 minutes - colors looked vivid, music sounded good, but all of a sudden things began to get almost too intense. The sweat continued to pour off of me, and I felt really overwhelmed and needed to sit down. About 10 minutes later, we walked to a cooler, less populated spot and I tried to get back to a positive headspace, but nothing was really working. I was pretty dazed, with muscle clenching and moderate bruxism. Meanwhile, my S.O. was really enjoying her come up and experiencing major euphoria. She tried to talk with me to settle me down, but not a whole lot worked. I was feeling none of the energy/positivity that she was - and this continued for another hour or two until I peaked and started to feel slightly more normal - but again, nowhere near her level of positivity.

The second time I sampled this batch was just a few days ago with my S.O. We each took approx. 70mg and tried to control conditions as much as possible - stayed at home, put some good music on the TV. Made another mistake with time getting away from us and eating a meal about an hour before ingestion again, but that didn't affect her all too much as she was feeling a mild sense of euphoria within about 45 minutes yet again. I, on the other hand, was getting none of it. In fact, aside from some minor bruxism and eye wiggles, my mood or energy level didn't peak from baseline whatsoever. We had a few deep conversations, which was nice, but aside from the increased empathy, the difference between the two of us was incredible. She was having a great, energy-packed roll and I was feeling almost lethargic. I took a small dip about an hour or 90 minutes into it but needless to say, very little changed.

So now, having dipped into this batch on two separate occasions, I'm completely stumped as to why my reaction has been nonexistent, especially in light of the fact that I've successfully rolled in the past, and my S.O. got off so hard on it twice.

My guesses:
- Possibly due to my metabolism digestion is affecting my come up?
- I've also self-diagnosed myself with light IBS - having done some googling, I've found a major connection between gut activity and Serotonin levels -- and both of these rolls took place immediately following flare-ups (possibly due to stress/anticipation?). Does it seem reasonable that my Serotonin levels are depleted due to their role in digestion and...the resulting activities?

Aside from that, though, I'm totally stumped. Any ideas how to enjoy my next experience?
 
I think you need just just find your sweet spot. 160 is alot for some and 70 is almost nothing for everyone. And trying to redose after the Intial 70 is also fruitless as you won't get an "higher" per sae. Just prolonging what your currently feeling.
Also, how long of a break were in between The two rolls?
 
The two rolls were a little more than two weeks apart.

I understand what you mean about finding a sweet spot, but my only hesitation to moving to a higher level is the fact that 70mg managed to get my S.O. to roll pretty decently. If I increased to 100mg the next time (for example), do you think that might just magnify the lethargic/blah effects?
 
What Mazz said...

You took much on the 160mg occasion and had an intense comeup that you didn't enjoy

The 2nd occasion you took too little. 70mg for a 175lb guy isn't gonna get you rolling balls so to speak.

Try about 120mg and I think you'll get closer to what you're looking for.
 
Don't eat just 1 h before dropping. Maybe it won't destroy the roll completely (probably it will slow down absorbtion), but it is not going to help either. And yes, try lowering a bit your dose, like Paulo suggested. Btw, if your SO weights, let's say, 100 lbs while you weight 175 this should be factored in (and would give about 120 mg as dosage). So, as other said, next time try 120-130 mg.
 
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Try 125mg, or 150 in a controlled environment.
At a show 160mg of potent stuff can be to much.
I'm fairly experienced with MDMA and 200mg of potent stuff will have me sweating like a champion and give me mad eye wobbles and space me out completely, but that's also my idea of a good time
 
Thanks for the info, all. I really do appreciate the input.

So, I guess your suggestion is to try to find my "sweet spot"? I guess the only reason that I'm still scratching my head about what that sweet spot might be is my comparison to my S.O.'s experience. She's a lean 135/140 lbs who handles her shit really well and managed to have a good roll at 70mg and a fantastic roll (albeit kinda super speedy and way long-lasting) at 160mg.

If 160 was too much for me but treated her well the first time, I'd assume I would be more sensitive to it. I wonder then, why wouldn't that 70mg that got her off the second time have an effect on me?

In any case, next time I'll bump the dosage up to around 120, forego eating for 3 hrs or so preroll, and try to stay in a controlled environment.

Any other input or thoughts?
 
Meals, preferably high on carbs and low on protein and fats, should ideally be taken about 3 to 4 hours before the roll.
If you think the meal is slowing your uptake try plugging or snorting.
 
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