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[STORY]Searching answers before ingesting.

aivaras

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[BACKGROUND]
Doing amphetamines for hell knows..5 years i think?? Never ever had opportunity to hit pharm speed, but always doing street thing. From really adulterated where after a line you can feel baking soda/glucose/aspirin taste when you get drip, to quality bomb squidgy wet slightly grey different smell stuff or powdery chunky lightly pink with shades of white that holded my friend and me in a wonderland for two straight days tweaking out with euphoria and serious thinking about harm to animals while buying cigarettes(And i dont even care about that). Since my abuse only goes for a week at most i do breaks. While tweaking sometimes. While tweaking i change my regular dish to chainsmoking/gum/energy drinks/colas. Rarely take something food like. Pauses after abuse happens for weeks, sometimes for few days. Just cant manage my aggression/anger. I get pissed of at everything, so badly that few times i've got violent at my gf for almost nothing.. As time go by weeks i calm down by drinking every few days. I wonder if what i have is high tolerance. I could go thru a gram in hours sometimes Not that im not getting high, it's just im already tweaked out but have a big urge to redose, probably to feel something that is impossible to reach, or because i feel that after talking with someone or playing guitar for hour straight starts to get bit realistic and then i act like that naturally in order to maintain that same state where i feel like a happy man, but in reality i get wired not wanting to do things, with lots of thoughts passing, and one of them is to talk with my girlfriend as i did few hours and felt cumbuckets of happines, but when i open my mouth i feel that my fake reality wears off, and i become more and more sad with myself.

[WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THIS]
My girlfriend found another way of ingesting crank. Snorting was her thing for a quite small time because of nasty drip taste that she loved at first but started to hate later and because it burned so much where it left you with runny nose for 30 mins straight trying to pull it back. I suggested bombing in a rizzla and she loved everything about it. Discreetness of ingestion, no taste, longer high, and mellowed seemed to be STRONGER for her somehow and packet seemed to reach her way too fast, after 15mins shes rushing on her run while i think how its possible after only short time has passed.

Me - Myself done it orally and i can say im not a loved of weak high, but i do like longer ones. Snorting was my friend for years, it gave me some sort of rush at the times, but urge to redose kills me. I would love to see my nose from inside.. My guess it looks like i've been in hell and took a hardcore line.
Smoking is not an option. Few guys thought me how, by liking cigarette all the way and sticking hair thickness line on it and slowly dragging it. DIdn't do a jack. Same with chasing the dragon. I think all i chased was foil vapour and 0 of speed that instantly turned solid and black when fire was applied.
IV'ing always seemed to be worst thing. I have a needlephobia, and cant even think of injecting by myself.
Im already thinking of investment into 20ct syringe now. My girlfriend real opinion seems to express in her crooked smile. She thinks there's no need to do that when bombing or snorting is more accepted in her small drug knowledge and community of addicts that she googles from time to time on her cellphone while she's tweak at studies. Still, no one's stopping me from this, but no thumbs up either, but im willing to do this after i'll gather all the info i need.

[POCKETS FULL OF TOLERANCE AND SCRAPED AMMO]
Since im good at this abuse thing, i've got my hands on some good powder for cheap. Fluffy, but still a bit wet, so it forms into chunks or seems to look like a goey paste spreaded on a bag sticked onto it for ages. But chunks break off easily when touched with credit card and that paste when lays in the bag and just does not look like it would be a powder falls off from a baggie just fine. Bits of it still sticks, but hey tweakers tend to "lick" every bit with cutting the bag and scraping shit out of it. Now the stuff is a week old already and with what im left is about 3 grams at most, where glucose was added and it probably makes 4,5 now. It was added without my knowledge when i was at work and my girlfriend tryed to mask the drip taste, where she found herself doing a tragedy to me. It was like she stabbed my mom wit a knife. I've managed my anger by hitting a decent line before hearing the news, but now i know that what i got laying on my desk is very real and hardly a wiseman job. I Probably will scream my lungs on her later when we will run out of sweet amphetamine lines. Now i never knew if what have is high, but tolerance is sure a bitch that i would not fuck. It has been a quite long break ~2 weeks after taking this ammount. Started week ago, ate visually nothing, but its possible that my stomach felt it. Chainsmoked ~12 packs of cigarettes and i could be wrong so it could be more, done that while non stop gum chewing was going on and water or some fizzy drink was ingested because of my dry mouth and gum turning into a carpet. Slept for ~11 hours few days ago, but followed by Wake And Rail. Bed had me yesterday for about same ammount of time. This time wake and rail wasnt the thing i've wanted, and at the times my aggression creeped on me, but doing few serious lines and trying bombs again to avoid snorting when i felt bad about my nasal burn outs i felt fine again. Almost whole week trying to have sex but no luck waking up took some energy from me. Chasing that "Speedgasm" worked after after 3-4 days where we found ourselves trying just because we have nothing better to do. Failing at errection with many things like porn, mind blowing hours lasting blowjobs, etc just placed me in a position where i thought about my self as an impotent and shame, sadness came into package like it should. Dissapointment of 7hour fail everyday did its job by making multiple lines. So now im hanging here, almost 7 in the morning with no reasonable answer why im writing this, smelling like garbage, got nothing to do just wait when my state of high gonna fall, i'll have to accompany my gf to studies and come back home where i'll find myself dissapointed thinking "Why day has to come, and night ends so fast?", walking around house when got nothing better to do just wait for my girlfriend. "I'd like to buy a 20ml syringe, please".

[IS IT WOTH MY ASS?]

Im thinking of doing fairly big dose, because of that glucose and developed tolerance when tweaking whole night long again. I know this is harm reduction forum and i should not chase my high, but it would help me to chase this day happiness somewhere hidden where it should be in me and end up 1h at night watching something stupid, eating a sandwitch and falling asleep. Would plugging do any luck? I mean its almost same as IV in a way, but does the high much more stronger, better than nasally? I mean if you cant really get a rush from snorting, then how should rush feel like? Plenty of writing but no good answers about it, no one compared it just saying that its not worth your time or that it does not even work, and they had no amps in their systems for long time. Others told to trust them, because its better than enything they've had, and never felt that way. Words from people who takes pharm amphs as prescribed, building their tolerance for long time. Going to take all the actions i'll need. Even got baking soda by my side so increase effects. Will some sort of luck is thinking about a visit today? Or with a built tolerance and sleepless night it wont do any better than snorting it? If it would, please, please, suggest me a right dose for amph and water ratio. Every bit that was taken wrong is a teardrop to me now when i have to live thru this day and would kill for ingestion method that is as much good as IV'ing and would not kill my nose then take on my shallow and "out of air" breaths, followed my coughing that went so bad i lost my voice. Throat does not even hurt but my voice is like being hospitalized because of serious flu and it only stops for a sentence(If i cough my balls out in front of everyone looking like i've lived outside for ages, ate bread crumbs for pigeons, and showered in cold lake where i've got even dirtyed and got myself a deadly dissease but managed to steal some clothes from a thrift shop to look decent enough for society). Its just a bless for me if its a success.

[FOR BLUELIGHT]
I appologize for my terrible english writing, that took alot to be posted with no real reason for ya'll to read but only for me to explain society that understands me how desperate i feel and ironically i see myself(all the time), not because abuse does this when withdrawls hit you with depression, but because of my nature. This is who i am and i understand, so i wish that at least a few guys would read it or even answer to my prayers, and not explain me how inappropriate i act in life, in here or just laugh his ass off. If any chance that you think im still tweaking - Im not, and i wish i would, but on other hand you guys wont - it would be a long book sized mess.

THANK YOU ALL
 
im sorry i really coudlnt even read through that, and the slang terms are interchangable for other drugs. is it just amphetamine or methamphetamine? If you need to ask if youre tweaking after writing that out it sounds like you definitely are. Plugging should have a very high b/a, but i wouldnt compare anything to iv

you seem like a bit of sleep and a nutritious meal with a few multivitamins and lots of water could be a big help. if youre this desperate to get a little higher/high just once more for now then you might want to consider a break of sorts.

Methylphenidate (ritalin) can apparently "reverse" some of the dopamine related problems involved with pretty much all amps when abused. maybe consider that? Try coming down and take some L tryosine it will ease the "fuck i want to kill everyone" feeling
 
I understand, it barely makes any sence with my languange barrier. Its amphetamine. Powder form(Sulphate) the one that's popular in europe, but in my hands a slightly better version, came from manufacturer, still bit wet, not saying its top quality 90 percent bomb, but it is better than what i used to buy from small time guys. About tweaking i meant, that im not, and as it could seem like it, but i've been waiting this whole night(~8) hours, to ingest. And my coloured grammar failure with ironic stories comes from sober man that always talk like this when it comes about abuse and him. Well i dont exactly compare Plugging and IV, but just that Plugging has almost same b/a and somewhere near IV high, that last surprisingly long. It even gives you a rush, that i couldn't imagine how it feels, so plugging suppose to be thousand times better than snorting. In every way. I dont think a meal and water could help me now increasing high, it only make it weaker and shorter, but i will take some food and drink with me when i'll live this day in finale of reaching my bed. Got no access to Ritalin or any pharms - No one really buy or sell it as far as i know. People are more into hard cheap drugs, or bud. I would take L Tryosine if that thing wouldnt cost 30 bucks a bottle and only supplier would be bodybuilding shop, but if that really eases anger issues, i should invest to it.

In short:
Compare Snorting/Plugging in everyway that i could finally do it and kill my curiosity.
How would tolerance affect plugging effects, when abused for a week, 2 days of sleep, 1 of them was yesterday and i sat thru night with lines ant bombs done?(Total was about 0.7 consumed)
With my tolerance, and a night without sleep(doing fine), would it better to snort it or plug it? What would you suggest.
If plugging is a way to go - Approx. how much of street quality speed should i plug at first. No need for exact calculations, i know that ya'll dont know the purity.
Thanks in advance.
 
have you tried smoking it? search it up if your type is smokeable but ive always loved smoking my meth way more than snorting it, im sure amps would be similar. if youre down with plugging i guess go for it, but i would take half your usual snorted dose maybe 3/4 to begin as if it turns out to be really good .7g could be bad news. if you are snorting 700mgs of "90%" pure amphetamine to get high for a night that is alot.

how come you havent slept? if its from doing lots of amphs then i would consider just getting away for a week. even after ive been up for days on meth i can still get decent effects from only slightly more than day 1's first dose. eating lots of healthy food will help your body replenish dopamine. dopamine has alot to do with the high from amphetamines. taking precursors such as l tyrosine or l dopa will help your brain replenish the supply (only take it the day after, not while youre on. hell 2 days after to reduce possible tolerance build). however since amps tend to change the way your brain regulates the flow of dopamine simply having more present wont make everything better but it will help.

whatever you do, find out how strong your shit is before you do something silly like plugging way too much. If you really want to get more out of smaller amounts you should consider a break.

I dont have sources on this, but i have read that small doses of ketamine can help lower/stop the buildup of tolerance to amps.
 
Sadly enough, i've my research about smoking over the years, and all i've ended up with is questions about smoking pills or if im lucky at google i find few posted questions that match. But ALL of it ends up with "dont smoke pills", or debates on what drug he has, who had similiar and better. No real answers. My lungs tried to believe it's possible multiple times, thinking this time it'll be diffrent. Chasing the dragon method made my powder hard solid and black just by barrely heating it with flame 6 inches away. Parts that havent burned yet turns brown and caramelise. Someone thought me how to smoke it with cigarette, didn't work either. THATS WHY I AM trying to find better methods at doing this thing. A 0,2g line keeps me for 1,5h if im already tweaking whole night, but it aint that strong as it should. All im trying is to find out is it worth plugging or better to snort for better effects, because i MUST keep myself in a mood untill evening when i will fall asleep. Snorting does fine after whole night tweaking, but that's it. And that's why im doing multiple and big, one wears off after time so i do another bigger one thinking it would pay off. If it made sense - Thats why im into plugging details. Well i did sleep yesterday, but from the moment i woke up - routine started and now here i am thinking best way to finish it and make it last a bit longer. I will take a break from tommorow morning, and already bought L-Tyrosine bottle for 25 bucks that'll start tommorow. Magnessium also helps so i'll see what difference they make. Food and water while being high only reduces effects dramaticaly. I always eat something before taking it on a fresh head, and after im done for good my only friend for weeks is food. Break will start tommorow morning. I'll try to plug. I have no words how thankful i am that you even opened this thread and responded me. Not a lot people on BL helps to a tweaker with failure at english and everything else. THANK YOU.
 
food and water while high doesnt reduce effects at all for me. i though it was street amp not pills?

if youre dead set on getting the most out give it a shot i guess, it should give a bit more bang for the buck. no matter what stay hydrated. its probable the effects are diminishing (in your eyes) so quickly because you are using so much so often. compulsive redosing leads to dramatic tolerance buildups. but tread carefully, it sounds like youre in pretty damn deep and if plugging does work, you might not be far off from trying the needle since it will be that bit more.

This is terrible hr advice, but at those doses it must be fairly neurotoxic, is methamphetamine available there? it might be a little healthier to do less meth for the sameish high. (just imo 200mg lines just to get through an hour and a half is nuts. especially if its even fairly pure.

dont take the l tyrosine until 24 hours after last dose at least, dosing too quickly can cause tolerance build. 1000mgs should be plenty

how long have you been using amphetamines?
 
It sounds like youre deep into amphetamine addiction, getting irritated and angry at your girlfriend when you dont have any.I think the best thing to do would be try and take a break for a long time or stop altogether because the amounts you are doing will cause permanent brain damage.

Maybe even switch to an opiate so you wont be so irritated, because your brain needs to heal.
 
nd that big doses leads to big tolerance and big tolerance leads to a chase where no one wins. I understand that fully and already being awake and alert after few last lines, i managed to sit thru night. I feel pretty fine for a comedown, just over emotional, and tiny bit paranoid, suspicious about things. Eyes seem to have spiderwebs and when it comes to thinking.. Complicated. But overall pretty good. Well i wouldn't mind IV if a trained person would do it.Not that IV'ing is worst method to take your speed, but im pretty sure no one will do that for me, and neither do i. Scared shitless of needles and not doing it right. Like leaving some air in the syringe, hitting the wrong vein and things like that makes chances that i'll ever IV really low. I've heard about plugging years ago and it seemed to be neccesarry when i could just snort it rather than doing long procedures..And it never seemed as hardcore as IV. Meth is available, but hard to find, most of the time it's weak and not worth paying the money. I think its way more expensive than coke in here. Speed could be straight from the lab and adulterant free, but when it comes to weak or strong it all depends on synthesis. So i cant say that it reaches pharm grade or so, but deffinetly better if compared to street bought where travelled thru 100 hands and every one of them put shit in it. It does some sort neurotoxic damage, as that i can feel. Year ago a gram lasted me whole day and day after. Usually till afternoon. Jittery on comedowns but perfectly fine after two days max. Now everytime i do a gram or two, no matter how i take it, after then i find myself on rage episodes where i cant control myself/my brutal actions. The more someone talks back at me, more furious i get, and then even when i start to realize my actions, i just cant stop. The main thing that's killing my releationship. It never happened in the beggining when we started to date, or EVEN months, years ago. Tiny bit of spark for me and im on fire. Arrguing to the end. About everything. Cellphone messages, Facebook friends, things we do. Alot of trust burned out when she cought me doing things, and i cought her, but it moved too far. Spying on her, watching her FB messages, cellphone just to find evidene that would prove SOMETHING.. I dont really understand what is going on between us, but i can say never blame one of them. There's always fault of two. Im addicted to whiz for 4-5 years without making it a regular thing. I've had my shares where i would do 6 grams a week, 3 grams a week, but mostly it ended up with long breaks after and strong craving for weeks. But that happens when i have plenty of money to spend. When not, gram/two for 2-4 days max. Then i give it a break for two weeks- A month. Wouldn't want to stop it, because from all the things i've tried, nothing worked as good as speed. Felt like a human. Socialable, talkative, happy, doing stuff. It even helps my singing alot. I actaully can sing in some level, where not speed i normally would just take guitar and after 5 minutes of easy tunes i give up, terrible to listen myself.
 
im sorry i really coudlnt even read through that,------- it will ease the "fuck i want to kill everyone" feeling

hahahaha

dude in all seriousness, reading that made me want to stab my fucking eyes out.
you honestly need to take a break, maybe even seek clinical treatment. You seem to be in extremely deep, and the amounts your doing cannot be healthy, and im surprised you havent had a heart attack or gone into cardiac arrest or something along those lines.

id try switching up your DOC for a while and give the ice a break bro, your brains probably a fucking baked potato
 
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