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stop complaining and do something positive (details inside)

JB that post was nothing short of nasty
no tact whatsoever
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ultimately, we just want to be happy
 
Too many rules and too many regulations people !!!!
This message board feels like being back in school….
“ You can’t do this “ …….“you can’t do that “
“read this before you search for that “
It’s getting ridiculous !!!!
If a new name “newbie” posts something OUT OF THE RULES they get shit on by all the Bluelight junkies (bluelight regulars)…..
If a Bluelight junkie posts something against the rules it goes by mostly unnoticed or meets a mild chuckle …
And now ways of stopping “newbies” posting on the ANZ/ASIA discussion keep being suggested (ie. search topics first …telling them that they cannot post certain things in this forum it has to go in another forum or you titled you post incorrectly.... you get my drift ) . Also the ANZ/ASIA discussion board has become very clicky and if your not clicky you get burnt ….
Newbies who do get a start have to grovel for weeks before they get a fare go or they to have a PHD in chemistry /Phycology/criminology /narcotics/Djiing to have there ideas thoughts information taken seriously.....
Imagine you stumbled on bluelight today and had a question about 5htp or white Mitsu’s .. You post…..then in a reply to your post you get told in no uncertain terms to search first or it’s already been said or why did you start another post ………. Would you come back …. You would probably stick in a flame post telling everyone to go and get stuffed …. It happens all the time with newbies
Maybe you all know too much you have been here too long …..You wait for that silly newbie post and all race to jump down there throats ….
You guys have heard all this before ..But hey were all human and humans never listen and never learn …..why should bluelight be any different ……
Chill
[This message has been edited by Chill (edited 28 April 2000).]
 
.......is it a coincidence that things have started to turn nasty since we have had successful meet-ups??????
i have a feeling that we are going to turn out like another rave website that has a reputation for being (sorry for using your term JB) "clique-ish" and outright arrogant!!! being so chummy on the message board has disadvantages................
maybe we should all hold back a bit and use the email and icq a lot more.........
and that certainly includes me......
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mev
 
milkybar emailed about how she felt on this subject, and it summed it all up so well i asked if i could publish that email here. she has agreed... so here it is for your consideration...
"just a message to say that (for once) I agreed with your comment about the fewer the posts the better (not because I presume to think that my opinion makes much difference in the scheme of things but because I feel compelled to express agreement).
BL is what it is thanks to the frequent posters but by the same token it doesn't take long to realise which members hold the 'power'. It's intimidating for newcomers to be actually made to feel like newcomers by being either ignored, flamed, received with sarcasm, or told that they shouldn't be able to post until they've been 'trained' (especially when some of the more pointless posts are by put up by regulars).
BL is a great site, but what's made it less than attractive for me personally is the amount of overtly opinionated posts that either victimise a poster or make fun of them. It's good to feel like you belong to some kind of exclusive group but when it comes at the cost of forming cliques and alienating non-members, is it really worth it?
Anyway, I'm off the point. It seemed for a long while that you were turning into some sort of weird cult-leader guru-type figure shielding only the few BL members worthy of joining the flock but you surprised me by actually sticking up for the less visible members that don't go to meet-ups or post everytime they come home still rolling.
Ciao,
the-almost-sorry-that-I-lurked-at-Gatecrasher,
Milkybar."
please dont let this be an excuse for another flame war. the point of this is to consider all the hundreds of people that use this site every day but dont post. we are here to help people, not form a club. language such as newbie does nothing but alienate people who have so much to offer...
yes entropope, i have no tact, i've already apologised to them for that, but at least this issue is out in the open.
[This message has been edited by johnboy (edited 28 April 2000).]
 
All right, seems the right time for me to add some more to this discussion. I have seen some of your input and now I can comment and write more...
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Firstly (I'll use the same format again) I know when I was a newbie (you are all still using the word...to me it means Ultra BL) I got flamed MANY a time by heaps of different people including JB...for all sorts of things. I think that this could be avoided by simply creating a "one week READING period" after which people can start to do regular posts. It would save newbies getting flamed by various people (myself included...I mean everyone did it to me so why should I hold back?...hehehe) and it would make the regulars not get all worked up about stupid things... THAT WAS MY POINT. I wasn't trying to be mean or anything like that. I know I would have liked "a reading period" rather than getting on a bad foot with some of the regulars at that time.
As for JB, man that post was downright FUKED. Horsey is cut like a MOTHERF!@#$R at you still, but I'm a little over it although I am still VERY PISSED at the way that you "jumped at my neck" without first giving me a chance for an explanation.
To all you who were "pissed off" by my controversial post I say this:
It was just my SUGGESTION. That's what it was asked of me and I gave it. If you don't like it that's fine, but please say WHY YOU DON'T LIKE IT. You all just said..."Oh that's bullshit" none of you gave a reason why it is bullshit. At least I gave some thoughts on why I think it would be a good idea. You don't like it? WHY? Because you happen to be a Ultra BL at the moment and can't wait? Not good enough. JB you of all people shoul know what I'm on about. I'm surprised you are taking it this way.
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princehamlet
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I have to agree with Chill on this....it seems ridiculous to slam someone who couldn't possibly have a clue how to act around here when fresh..
We all have comedown days (have you noticed the mood around here is always lousy on Monday/Tuesday's?!?
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...it really is!) and I have slammed a newbie once for asking openly on this Board about how to score more pills of a certain type he/she really liked (perhaps that was forgiveable - I did note I was coming down and in a pissy mood!
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) but perhaps myself (and a few others) should go OUT OF OUR WAY to help new people here?...simply directing them to a FAQ is ok, but CAN BE seen by them as a little less than helpful....
One thing Ashke noted, which I decided to follow some time back, is to drop into the New Person Area on the main board every now and then and 'lend a hand'...there are an awful lot of first time posters in there, asking all sorts of smart and dumb questions and you can really help them by sharing your knowledge...if you think you know a thing or two about drugs (which I do) you can certainly make a great deal of difference to people in there...they are crying out for reliable info....(and let's face it, some of the more 'advanced' of the old soldiers in the North American forum could do with a little help from time-to-time!
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worth a look anyway...
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candyflip
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the point has never been the validity of your suggestion, personally i think its ok but needs some work. the problem i had with yours and mr horses posts were the arrogance and condescention they seemed to have.
now im not saying you meant to be arrogant or condescending, but thats how it looked.
put it this way: do you really think i have no respect for you or mr horse? your answer is probably no, but it sure as hell looked that way.
were you really arrogant and condescending when you wrote your posts? no, is my definite answer, but it sure looked that way. not just to me, but to plenty of other people.
i have apologised for the way i made my point. i have also offered to remove it, what more do you want?
sure i have flame my share of newbies in the past, but that is the past and i am doing my nbest to move on and actually practice the sort of tolerance we are talking about in this thread.
i was just amazed when i read your posts because it seemed like you were saying this good idea but not really taking it to heart. it seemed like a great hypocrisy that pissed me off so i over reacted. for that i am sorry and will do what ever you wat to make it up to you.
but can you address the main point?
i answer to your earlier post about who gets to decide whats worthy, well i guess i should have put IMHO or something. personally i'd be pretty stoked if someone, anyone, thought 20% of my posts were worthwile. i certainly dont think everything i write is worthy. when i went back and read quads posts i was impressed with his quality, thas what made me do that post more than anything.
 
hmmm, very interesting. Things have got mighty twisted havent they! Hamlet: Im way over it. After deliberating with jb through email, we have sorted things out. I saw where he was coming from so its a topic which should be over.
Bluelight should not be a 'club', merely an information board. When people start teaming up, things can get nasty. I like ashke's idea because 'regulars' could semi-take it as training in tolerance. We all need to be more mindful and respectful of one another, that goes for everyone.
I am constantly learning as are most bluelighters, as to what is acceptable and what is not. Yes, this is just an internet site but I think most people know its a little more than that. We share an interest and we talk sensibly about it. Its easy for things to get out of control, or let a nasty post through every now and then. Hell, after easter, I purposly didn't go on bluelight because of the particularly nasty mood I was in. All I am saying is everone think before they post, have respect for fellow bluelighters, whether you like them or not and above all - ENJOY BLUELIGHT
ps: Ive wondered this for ages and I believe now is the perfect time to ask: What the fuck does IMHO mean??????? This has shat me for ages!!!!!!
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- hORSE
 
cool, glad its all ok now mr horse *hug*
yeah i gotta put a glossary of that shit up somewhere, its all old school net slang and its easy to forget that people havent been on the net for ever like it seems some of us have.
IMHO means "in my humble opinion"
IMO means "in my opinion"
LOL means "laugh out loud"
LMAO means laughing my ass off"
ROTFL means "roll on the floor laughing"
its all pretty daggy but its a convenient short hand that most people know
 
To Candyflip: I WASN'S SLAMMING ANYONE...please read my "explanaion post" and read all of it. I hope it justifys my post. It was all a coincidence!
To JB: I'm still cut up but I'm sure everyone had "good intent" with all of their posts. We all stuffed up in one way or another.
To EVERYONE: No one has still not given any "AGAINST" points to knock back my suggestion, which I still firmly stand by.
To Mr.Horse: No Sir I don't like what you did...but that's another matter.
Lastly to Quad: I'll repeat again that no post of mine was EVER directed at you in any way. It was just pure luck that made my post appear after someone who had an Ultra or New Bl status. Also I'll stop using the word newbie, and people stop using other words like "junkie" (hmmm...nobody picked on this one...).
Right now, in time all this will smooth over and be forgotten. Let's however get back to the reason this topic started:
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