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trips098

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my cousin started rolling like 3/4 months ago, and he did it like everyother week and sometimes twice a weekend, but recently like maybe 3-5 weeks ago he said he wants to stop everything to try and be better at basketball.
but he cant stopped hes smoked twice that i know of, and rolled i think twice. he just called me and said he needs my help to stop, i told him try to wait until at LEAST june to roll again. he said that he cant do that. and i know he probably can, but itll be really hard.
ive rolled many times and i can stop right now and never do it again or take breaks years at a time, but he cant, idk how to explain but he just cant.
so how can i convince to take longer breaks and just keep increasing the breaks?
 
it's all about mentality dude, look at it logically: it is just a little pill, are you really going to let something that can fit on your thumbnail control your life?

Help him change the way he looks at using, and maybe change his friends for a bit. It sounds like to me that you will be his biggest help through this time in his life, but you've got to remember that it's not going to be easy, and you will be frustrated with him, but he needs you to stick by him.

obviously, him taking longer and longer breaks from X will help him reduce cravings....or maybe the issue is deeper....

/rant ( i am speeding balls, but you get the point)
 
I started using one year ago, but didn't do it a lot until 6 months ago. ~11 times in the past 6 months, not bad of a honeymoon, but moreso than others. Honestly I knew for my own health I really need to do 1 month between minimum, so when I did it last weekend (finishing my last pills) I went into it with a new mindset.

I kept telling myself all day "get ready to have a fucking blast, dance your ass off, and do whatever you can to enjoy it, because you're about to take a 2 month break after"

Oddly enough, I enjoyed the fuck out of it as usual, and I have YET to have a single craving. Not even those daydreams about a good roll. NOTHING. It's ALL mindset.
 
ive said this before and its seemed to help. i have never abused ecstasy. why? cuz its something i love which creates memorable memories for me. when you start to use mdma more and more its less special and more "normal". bottom line : you dont abuse something you love.
 
That's some good advice, but if none of that really works, then I think he might have to learn the hard way... A lot of people abuse it at first, and I know exactly how he feels about saying he's not able to stop. I've always been able to take longer breaks, but at times it would be really REALLY hard, and some people just have some more self control than others. So try to talk to him and help him, but if that really doesn't work then I think he will have to learn on his own.
 
Yeah. I tried talking to other people about the craving of mine to do it frequently, but in the end I only have myself to keep steady and not abuse my drug of choice. So despite the fact that I really want to, I force myself to wait, or even save it for special occasions that might coincide with the end of my minimum wait of three months between pills.

I think in the end you need to be there for your cousin and support him but realize that ultimately it is his strength of will, you could say, that will be the deciding factor.
 
llyando said:
Yeah. I tried talking to other people about the craving of mine to do it frequently, but in the end I only have myself to keep steady and not abuse my drug of choice. So despite the fact that I really want to, I force myself to wait, or even save it for special occasions that might coincide with the end of my minimum wait of three months between pills.

I think in the end you need to be there for your cousin and support him but realize that ultimately it is his strength of will, you could say, that will be the deciding factor.
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I'm really curious if my situation was a fluke, next time you roll, go all day saying "I WILL be taking a month long break, I WILL be taking a month long break" and try to remember it while rolling. See what happens the week after regarding cravings.

Edit: 3 month break, eh, I could see myself having cravings waiting that long. I was always close to breaking my ONE month rule :/
 
He has to change is mindset on it, i think. I was definitely in the same boat, using every 2-3 weeks and thinking that it was okay for a long while. Ask him to weigh out the pros and cons of using E every 2 weeks vs pushing it to longer intervals in between each roll to maximize the effects and awesomeness of each experience.

I came to the late realization that doing drugs every 2-3 weeks consumes a HUGE amount of time that could be spent much more productively. Like.. in healthy ways. You know, eating, sleeping, not being on stimulants? lol. Yeah, rolling so frequently was awesome, but it definitely started to lose its magic, and tolerance shot up like nuts. The comedowns get shittier, and the highs get less amazing... From every single perspective, it's not worth doing it more often than every 2-3 months (or longer). Tell him being better at basketball will be more rewarding in the long run, anyways.

seconded with TheChemist: stick by your buddy, he'll thank you later.
 
Does he realize that MDMA is not physically addictive and his addiction is purely mental? Stupid question, I know, but I also know A LOT of people are misinformed. I've had people straight up tell me that their BODY was craving E, and when I told them it was all in their mind they were confused and found that they were fooling themselves into thinking bodily functions were their body craving the drug. Let him know that it's fully in his power to control his use.

Also, taking yourself out completely from the party scene, friends, and even ways of life like dressing, sleeping habits, ect can do WONDERS. He should store the kandi, lights, and rave attire, tell his rave buddies to help him by not inviting him out, plan weekend events with family or non-rave friends and most importantly, not pick up any more pills. It's hard for people who are fully immersed in the rave culture, but very important if he really wants to get a handle of it.
 
Is it possible for him to set up a visit with a psychiatrist? People that are compelled to take ecstasy that frequently most often have serious underlying depression issues, which the ecstasy is worsening. A prescription for an SSRI antidepressant might help get his brain chemistry back on track.
When someone is taking SSRIs, the ecstasy won't affect them nearly as much, if at all. Blocker drugs have been proven effective for weaning opiate and cigarette addicts, so a similar approach might prove to be a valuable option.
 
Dahli said:
Does he realize that MDMA is not physically addictive and his addiction is purely mental? Stupid question, I know, but I also know A LOT of people are misinformed. I've had people straight up tell me that their BODY was craving E, and when I told them it was all in their mind they were confused and found that they were fooling themselves into thinking bodily functions were their body craving the drug. Let him know that it's fully in his power to control his use....
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Completely agree. :)
 
Dahli said:
Does he realize that MDMA is not physically addictive and his addiction is purely mental? Stupid question, I know, but I also know A LOT of people are misinformed. I've had people straight up tell me that their BODY was craving E, and when I told them it was all in their mind they were confused and found that they were fooling themselves into thinking bodily functions were their body craving the drug. Let him know that it's fully in his power to control his use.

Also, taking yourself out completely from the party scene, friends, and even ways of life like dressing, sleeping habits, ect can do WONDERS. He should store the kandi, lights, and rave attire, tell his rave buddies to help him by not inviting him out, plan weekend events with family or non-rave friends and most importantly, not pick up any more pills. It's hard for people who are fully immersed in the rave culture, but very important if he really wants to get a handle of it.
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he doesnt have any kandis, lights or any rave attire, hes never been to a rave. and im nto sure about his friends. he usually listens to rap, but since u started rolling he listens to techno too. im like the only person in my family that has kandis but i dont wear them unless im ata rave.
so, yea.
and thanks for all the help guys! ill try my best to get him to stop.
also, he does know its not physically addciting, but he doesnt have enough self control to stop his bran, stop his self from wanting to feel like that.
it is kinda my fault for telling him about rolling though, i never convinced him to do it or anything like that.

i just told him that it was an amazing experience, and it felt WAY too good. hahah
so i feel like its my job to help him.
and no one else in my family will, 1 of my cousins keeps giving him drugs cause hes stupid and i told him rolling so much is not good for him. but he doesnt listen he still thinks stacks matter! i gave up on him for now. hopefully he learns by getting caught up by his parents..
 
also, after reading all this i just texted him.
he said that hes going to stop smoking, cause it gives him anxiety and he gets really scared and freaks out. also whenever he does it he said he feels its bad for him?
 
Or get him to go to some kind of rehab center. If it gets to the point where he might damage himself, you know?
 
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