Misc Stimulant least likely to give me a mental breakdown?

[Berdo tm1]

Well i was always into my dopamine sitms and always despidsed cofee. it is all unwanted side effects besides a little excitment for 30 minutes, then 5 hours of feeling like there is a murderer behind every door.

i know plenty people who say the same thing they love their dopa stims but find coffee repulsive.

its the same myth that alcohol relaxes you. Those two mainstream substances are some of the most worthless in existence in terms of their functional value vs unwanted side effects imo.

man you americans (presuming) talk like precription drugs just flow out of the tap. i know its hard to believe but some places like here in the uk you cant just get prescription drugs like you could go buy a pack of gum

im guessing that is why the rc scene is the biggest here since doctors are so stingy about what they give out ppl have found other ways to deal with their urges

 

[Risk1999]

OK everyone swim.. Had focalin, adderall, Vyvance they were unable to sleep last night and have ingested 60 mg of adderall in the last 2 hr it doesn't seem to be helping what does anyone suggest to be productive at work this afternoon, no real tolerance to stem. Also ingested 90mg Roxy (high tolerance)

 

[f33lg00d]

OK everyone swim.. Had focalin, adderall, Vyvance they were unable to sleep last night and have ingested 60 mg of adderall in the last 2 hr it doesn't seem to be helping what does anyone suggest to be productive at work this afternoon, no real tolerance to stem. Also ingested 90mg Roxy (high tolerance)

So a couple things for ya risk mate. We don't use "swim" here at bluelight we use I. I notice you posted this in a few threads, it would be much better to make your on thread on the topic. Personally I'd avoid taking anything to get through work and go home and pass out after. Take it as a lesson not to take stims after morning or as high doses when you have work the next day- hell that's one of the reasons I love coke short acting stims are my favorite.


Berdbro, ik you say bupropion lasts to long for you but it's so mild. I've never had trouble sleeping on it and I have chronic insomnia. It's like this nice little smooth functional buzz for me that turns me from a lazy fuck to a functional person. You can get a doc to prescribe to you to 'quit smoking', even if you don't smoke they don't know that smoke a couple butts before u go in so you smell and in case they drug test you. I totally recomend ecigs (fucking smoking tobacco shits awful for you) too, nicotine is very similar to kratom for me just a shorter duration. Buprenorphine also isn't a stim but it's a really functional opioid that most peeple find stimmy.

 

[Risk1999]

Thanks for the info, so that's a no for the Vyvance or focalin I'm new to all three. I'm trying to read but everyone is so different on what they say about each it's hard to get solid information I started a line on this I'm just new to posting comments on this site ty for the help

 

[Screaming_Skull]

Ummm, from what you posted I think you should just avoid stimulants all together...why take them if ya end up having breakdowns all the time on them, sounds like you just need to stay away from them... maybe try a stimulating strain of kratom or something.... I would reccomend low doses of Coke with some benzo's but don't want ya to get a poly-drug habbit going on.. Gabapentin can also be stimulating for some also(me included) but also relaxes you at the same time..And is that really true benzo's can't be prescribe more than a month for somebody in the UK?? That's CRAZY!!! Unless you just mean they have to go back to the doctor to get another script written.

 

[boo-radley]

I have been stuck in a pit of intertia for so long. I feel like there has been a fog covering my mind.

Last couple of times i took stims I had mental breakdowns. The last time i ended up crying to my mother on the phone and couldnt sleep for a week just through worry and anxiety id never sleep again. I think alot of that was associated with guilt tho as id been 'clean' for long periods before that and reading the evangelical disease models of addcitions was really giving me guilt trips.

I may try a stimulating kratom again soon but I find it gives me anxiety rather than the nice clean stimulantion of a dopamine high for instance. Just the anxious antsiness of adrenaline. I might try mixing strains. Red vein borneo has been the strain ive got on best wiht so far that doesnt give me anxiety but i realised it kills my libido and i guess motivation too . I know its common of opiates but ive never had that before on any drug i tried including the other kratoms. Anyhow I may try a mix of some rvb to stop anxiety and some of a white strain but im not confident it will do the job. Worth a shot tho i guess.

I hate caffeine,

I was given some modafinil the other day by a buddy but got scared of the 12 hour half life so ended up sending it back to him after only having a tiny notch off one pill. Not enough to feel anything.

In one sense I would love to have just a tiny drop of 2-fa but on the other im terrified of my weak mental disposition not being able to handle it. I did find it very smooth the couple times i had it though.

try a lower dose of caffeine with b vitamins. no sugar or artificial flavors! if you want to go the amphetamine route i would say get something that is time released and take it orally. dont snort or bang it. you could also try leviamphetamine.

 

[Berdo tm1]

try a lower dose of caffeine with b vitamins. no sugar or artificial flavors! if you want to go the amphetamine route i would say get something that is time released and take it orally. dont snort or bang it. you could also try leviamphetamine.

lol terrible advice here no offence.

i tried caffeine at all doses and there is no 'therapeutic window' for me.

and i want an amp that last a short amount of time if anyhting not a long time, cos insomnia is the main thing that rattles me. and third levoamp is supposed to be the one with all the negative side effects!!!!!

 

[Drybone]

Well i was always into my dopamine sitms and always despidsed cofee. it is all unwanted side effects besides a little excitment for 30 minutes, then 5 hours of feeling like there is a murderer behind every door.

i know plenty people who say the same thing they love their dopa stims but find coffee repulsive.

its the same myth that alcohol relaxes you. Those two mainstream substances are some of the most worthless in existence in terms of their functional value vs unwanted side effects imo.

man you americans (presuming) talk like precription drugs just flow out of the tap. i know its hard to believe but some places like here in the uk you cant just get prescription drugs like you could go buy a pack of gum

im guessing that is why the rc scene is the biggest here since doctors are so stingy about what they give out ppl have found other ways to deal with their urges

Coffee has caffeine in it, which is a stimulant. You can hate the taste of coffee or have too much and get jitters but its a stimulant nonetheless. If you fear there are murderers behind every door then you need to cease all stimulants immediately and consult a doctor if the symptoms still persist.

Alcohol is a depressant. Its not stimulating in any way. It lowers your body temperature . Most folks lose some of their inhibitions so they feel like they are being more engaged and erroneously attribute it as stimulating.

Last of all is tobacco. Most folks I know need to 'have a smoke and relax' . In truth nicotine is a stimulant. The reason why folks think its relaxing is because the moment they have their nicotine, their nicotine withdrawl anxiety goes away so they feel better.

Same as any withdrawl I suppose.

 

[f33lg00d]

The reason why folks think its relaxing is because the moment they have their nicotine, their nicotine withdrawl anxiety goes away so they feel better.

That's not true nicotine raises endorphin levels. It is a stimulant but that doesn't mean it can't be relaxing and have multiple modes of action. You do not have to be addicted to make it relax you.

Everybody already knows coffee is a stim and alcohol isn't, I really don't understand why you felt the need to say that. Nobody suggested alcohol is a stim.