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Stimulant DAT ligand question, can someone explain the implication of this data?

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(a) Chemical structures of all compounds docked into the DAT model. Compounds that hindered the Asp79-Tyr156 hydrogen bond when docked are shown in black; compounds that allowed the hydrogen bond are shown in gray. (b) Computationally estimated distance between the oxygen atoms of Tyr156 and Asp79 plotted against ligand Y156F/wild-type affinity ratio (values from Supplementary Table 2). The time-dependent behavior of the Tyr-Asp hydrogen bond was explored with molecular dynamics simulations. The hydrogen bond was continuously present (distance <3.5 Å) in all trajectories (gray) except for those of CFT and cocaine (black). Error bars are standard deviations of the estimated distances. Dotted lines indicate the minimal distance for hydrogen-bond formation (3.5 Å, horizontal) or an arbitrary fivefold affinity ratio (vertical). Inset, model of the Tyr-Asp interaction seen for the two classes of ligands. (c) Rendering of water permeation into the dopamine- (top) and CFT-binding (bottom) sites. Right, the distribution of water shown over a 25 Å distance along the membrane normal in the region indicated on the left by the rectangular box. The distribution was calculated from the last 5 ns of each of three separate simulations carried out for each ligand-DAT complex (red, blue and black traces, respectively). The locations of the geometric centers of Tyr156 and Asp79 and ligands at the end of the simulations are indicated by blue and green arrows, respectively, and water molecule numbers are indicated as a function of distance. Left, water distribution in context of the structure; silver-colored surfaces indicate the water penetration, with the structures of Tyr156, Asp79 and the ligands rendered.

Source: Comparison of the CFT-binding mode with the binding mode of dopamine and other DAT ligands

I want to know what the "grey" versus the "black" chemicals shown simply on table "B" (lower & upper left corners on the image) truly implies. What does hindering this hydrogen bond (e.g. only in the case of the ligands possibly?) do in the case of the action of such chemicals? Is there any literature that states the importance or implication of this hydrogen "Tyr156 and Asp79" bond as it exists when a chemical is docked to the transporter or just even in general?
 
I'd have to read the whole thing to really say. I think as far as what they do, it doesn't matter much.
 
See the discussion!

We modeled and analyzed inhibitors of the benztropine class. These
inhibitors were also suggested to bind in the central cavity, and thus to a
binding site overlapping with that of dopamine. In contrast to cocaine/
CFT, however, they bound in a way that preserved the Asp79-Tyr156
hydrogen bond, and thereby formed a closed binding pocket. Notably,
we have recently assessed conformational changes in DAT promoted by
different benztropine and cocaine analogs by determining reactivity of
a cysteine inserted in position 159, which is believed to be accessible in
the outward facing conformation when the extracellular gate is open
and inaccessible when the gate is closed37. These data showed that,
although cocaine and its analogs probably stabilize the open outwardfacing
conformation, benztropines probably stabilize the closed
conformation. This is consistent with the present binding models
and is supported by simulations of the CFT binding model in a
realistic membrane environment showing water permeating deep
into the CFT-binding site (Fig. 5). Of note, several benztropine
analogs are less effective than cocaine as behavioral stimulants, despite
having similar or higher affinity and selectivity for the DAT than
cocaine36,45. Furthermore, one of the benztropines, JHW 007, was
found to potently antagonize the behavioral effects of cocaine36. It
is tempting, therefore, to speculate that the different binding
configurations between cocaine and benztropines could contribute to
their different pharmacological profiles, and therefore offer structureinformed
hypotheses for molecular mechanisms underlying psychostimulant
action.
In summary, we present here, to the best of our knowledge, the first
comprehensive and experimentally validated model of substrate and
inhibitor binding to the DAT, in the context of the high-resolution
structure of the bacterial transporter homolog LeuT. Our data provide
strong evidence that substrates and inhibitors, including widely abused
psychostimulants such as cocaine and amphetamine, occupy an essentially
similar binding pocket that is buried deep in the DAT molecule
and corresponds to the substrate-binding site in the LeuT structure.
These data therefore finally close the door to the possibility of
generating a competitive inhibitor of cocaine binding that treats
cocaine addiction without itself inhibiting dopamine uptake.
 
See the discussion!

Still have a few questions though, doesn't clear much up for me.

....In contrast to cocaine/
CFT, however, they bound in a way that preserved the Asp79-Tyr156
hydrogen bond, and thereby formed a closed binding pocket....These data showed that, although cocaine and its analogs probably stabilize the open outwardfacing conformation, benztropines probably stabilize the closed
conformation. .... Of note, several benztropine analogs are less effective than cocaine as behavioral stimulants, despite having similar or higher affinity and selectivity for the DAT than cocaine36,45.

So hindering the hydrogen bond may relate to the increased reinforcing effect of cocaine, despite not having as much affinity to dopamine etc., as other CNS stimulant drugs? Just do to that physical molecular conformation to the receptor and the exact place hit to activate it?

In summary, we present here, to the best of our knowledge, the first
comprehensive and experimentally validated model of substrate and
inhibitor binding to the DAT, in the context of the high-resolution
structure of the bacterial transporter homolog LeuT. Our data provide
strong evidence that substrates and inhibitors, including widely abused
psychostimulants such as cocaine and amphetamine, occupy an essentially
similar binding pocket that is buried deep in the DAT molecule
and corresponds to the substrate-binding site in the LeuT structure.
These data therefore finally close the door to the possibility of
generating a competitive inhibitor of cocaine binding that treats
cocaine addiction without itself inhibiting dopamine uptake.

LeuT seems not to relate to the hydro bond though, does it? It says "cocaine & amphetamine" and yet amphetamine is in the group that is shaded as to not inhibit the hydrogen bond. So the relation is still lost to me in what more this may actually do.
 
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You have to account for the fact that amphetamine is a VMAT2 ligand in addition to being a DAT ligand, which should account for the differences.
 
You have to account for the fact that amphetamine is a VMAT2 ligand in addition to being a DAT ligand, which should account for the differences.

I know of it's action on VMAT2 and that difference, however I thought amphetamine wasn't a "ligand" at all, but was a dopamine reuptake inhibitor by means of phosphorylating DAT solely? I am just wondering about this specific difference of the hydrogen bond and what is known of that action and any other differences. This article seems to imply it relates to the reinforcing effects of the drug.
 
Still have a few questions though, doesn't clear much up for me.

So hindering the hydrogen bond may relate to the increased reinforcing effect of cocaine, despite not having as much affinity to dopamine etc., as other CNS stimulant drugs? Just do to that physical molecular conformation to the receptor and the exact place hit to activate it?

LeuT seems not to relate to the hydro bond though, does it? It says "cocaine & amphetamine" and yet amphetamine is in the group that is shaded as to not inhibit the hydrogen bond. So the relation is still lost to me in what more this may actually do.

That's correct. The thought is that in the case of benztropines this particular binding peculiarity is related to abuse potential.
 
I know of it's action on VMAT2 and that difference, however I thought amphetamine wasn't a "ligand" at all, but was a dopamine reuptake inhibitor by means of phosphorylating DAT solely? I am just wondering about this specific difference of the hydrogen bond and what is known of that action and any other differences. This article seems to imply it relates to the reinforcing effects of the drug.

Amphetamine is a ligand for both VMAT2 and DAT in that it binds to these transmembrane ATP-powered receptors. However technically none of these are ligands since ligands by definition bind to metals (though obviously it's a foggy definition these days).
 
biology-online.org said:
Ligand

(Science: chemistry, immunology) Any molecule that binds to another, in normal usage a soluble molecule such as a hormone or neurotransmitter, that binds to a receptor. The decision as to which is the ligand and which the receptor is often a little arbitrary when the broader sense of receptor is used (where there is no implication of transduction of signal). In these cases it is probably a good rule to consider the ligand to be the smaller of the two thus in a lectin sugar interaction, the sugar would be the ligand (even though it is attached to a much larger molecule, recognition is of the saccharide).

Also, I would like to add that neither VMAT2 nor DAT are powered by ATP, but by the electrochemical gradients across the membranes they are on.
 
Yes, that's the biochemistry definition. But if you're talking about inorganic chemistry it's specific to metals. I had thought that definition was older but I don't seem to have any evidence.

edit: I think this is correct, according to the study below it was coined by Alfred Stock, an inorganic chemist.
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a769228586~db=all

The production of the concentration gradient is powered by ATP, so they are both dependent on ATP (cotransport). Without Na+/K+ ATPase DAT will not function (though maybe that's kind of indirect and misleading, like saying they're powered by mitochondria!). 'm guessing it's similar for VMAT, but maybe it's not.
 
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Yes, that's the biochemistry definition. But if you're talking about inorganic chemistry it's specific to metals. I had thought that definition was older but I don't seem to have any evidence.

edit: I think this is correct, according to the study below it was coined by Alfred Stock, an inorganic chemist.
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a769228586~db=all

Interesting, I didn't know that. But we are talking about biochemistry here, so technically the definition of 'ligand' is not the inorganic chemistry one. In any case it's a minor semantic quibble.

nuke said:
The production of the concentration gradient is powered by ATP, so they are both dependent on ATP (cotransport). Without Na+/K+ ATPase DAT will not function (though maybe that's kind of indirect and misleading, like saying they're powered by mitochondria!).

Almost all cellular processes are indirectly dependent on ATP, which goes without saying. In a biochemical context, the statement that a protein is ATP-powered is generally interpreted to mean that ATP hydrolysis directly drives conformational change. Whereas DAT function certainly depends indirectly on ATP in vivo, ATP is not necessary in vitro in certain preparations. Anyways, I was just trying to clarify to make sure that readers didn't get the wrong idea from your first statement.

nuke said:
I'm guessing it's similar for VMAT, but maybe it's not.

VMAT is powered by the electrochemical gradient set up by the vesicular proton pump, also an ATPase.
 
That's correct. The thought is that in the case of benztropines this particular binding peculiarity is related to abuse potential.

Also, was I misreading the article? or am I just misunderstanding you?: I thought it was saying the abuse potential of benztropines was not as high as that as cocaine.

Off topic, regardless of the definition of "ligand" amp & coke bind *differently* to DAT, correct? Also, is there a chemical known that "binds" to VMAT2 but not DAT?
 
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