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Misc [stims] What is the best stim for use in social situations.

kokaino said:
Dextroamphetamine, methamphetamine, or very high grade cocaine used in moderation would all be great!
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I don't think coke would work that well. I just think it would be way too euphoric and compulsive. I'd have to go to the bathroom every 20 minutes. And knowing me, I'd get pretty fucked up and probably do some stupid shit :)
 
Best social stimulants in my opinion are: Coke, Mephedrone, MDMA and Meth

But for everyday use: Dextroamphetamine while keeping your tolerance down.

I feel like any stimulant that is highly serotonigenic will provide great social release and lower anxiety, while drugs that are higher in their DA and NE ratios seem to be better for concentration. The only problem is that by the time you reach an acceptable dose of most of these stimulants, you definitely give yourself away.
 
BluLait said:
I don't think coke would work that well. I just think it would be way too euphoric and compulsive. I'd have to go to the bathroom every 20 minutes. And knowing me, I'd get pretty fucked up and probably do some stupid shit :)
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It wouldn't work that well for what?

The OP is asking for a social drug, and cocaine is about as social as it gets. Everyone sitting on the couch, around the coffee table doin lines? Getting your boy coked out enough to talk him into letting us do lines off his GF's ass :)
It's about as social as it gets. lol
 
ephedrine hcl is effective and lasts and it's legal and available (at least in this country) or even caffeine works in a high enough dose. but don't plan on sleeping anytime soon and expect to piss more than you ever have in your life. amphet is almost identical to ephedrine but 10 times the price (also you can expect a nasty comedown after a while.)
 
Some people like to take a shit load of ephedrine relatively speaking to get "high." certainly not a high I would enjoy, but different strokes for different folks. it certainly is stimulating, although infinitely less recreational or euphoric than amps tend to be.
 
coffee, not only is it socially acceptable by most but it is a stimulant, so that is the best answer to the title question lol.. i know other drugs is what your thinking but most parties (unless everyone is a drug user) it would be "unacceptable" to make a line of (your DOC) and snort it up in the middle of a convo. lol would be kinda awkward.
 
Depends on what type of euphoria you're looking for. 2-FMA, 2-FA and ethylphenidate are great for pure stimulation and that dopamine rush feeling, while 4-FA, 4-MEC and m1 have more of a serotonin-esque effect (calm stimulation, empathy, lovey-dovey feelings).

If you're looking for an MDMA-like stim, any of the following will do:

4-FA, 4-EMC, 5ME, 4-MEC, methylone, ethylone, butylone

I find that low-dose combinations of a classic stimulant (like 2-FMA) with a pure empathogen (ethylone or 4-MEC) offers the stimulation and euphoria needed for social situations :)
 
Lady Codone said:
Depends on what type of euphoria you're looking for. 2-FMA, 2-FA and ethylphenidate are great for pure stimulation and that dopamine rush feeling, while 4-FA, 4-MEC and m1 have more of a serotonin-esque effect (calm stimulation, empathy, lovey-dovey feelings).

If you're looking for an MDMA-like stim, any of the following will do:

4-FA, 4-EMC, 5ME, 4-MEC, methylone, ethylone, butylone

I find that low-dose combinations of a classic stimulant (like 2-FMA) with a pure empathogen (ethylone or 4-MEC) offers the stimulation and euphoria needed for social situations :)
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Might be worth trying someday when I can get my hands on RC's.
 
Lady Codone said:
Depends on what type of euphoria you're looking for. 2-FMA, 2-FA and ethylphenidate are great for pure stimulation and that dopamine rush feeling, while 4-FA, 4-MEC and m1 have more of a serotonin-esque effect (calm stimulation, empathy, lovey-dovey feelings).

If you're looking for an MDMA-like stim, any of the following will do:

4-FA, 4-EMC, 5ME, 4-MEC, methylone, ethylone, butylone

I find that low-dose combinations of a classic stimulant (like 2-FMA) with a pure empathogen (ethylone or 4-MEC) offers the stimulation and euphoria needed for social situations :)
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If you're looking for an MDMA-like high then none of those will suffice because the only MDMA-like high there is happens to be MDMA itself. There's similar, there's not-so-similar, but if you're looking specifically for an MDMA high and try them, it's not what you're after. A lot of those drugs are much less intense/innately euphoric than MDMA as well..

If you're looking for an empathogen high, though, then they all fit the bill.
 
How do those empathogens compare with Tramadol? I personally love Tramadol as an empathogen, just because it lasts so long compared to amps/MDMA. I can take a couple to a music event and be good all night with just one dose.

I have to say, Ephedrine is not bad at all as a social stim, if you can handle the energy/anxiety from it. It's not euphoric in the slightest, but the NE effects definitely make me a social butterfly: socially competent with a primal, alpha-male sense of aggressiveness. I just know the right thing to say on Ephedrine, got with several women on the stuff. I have plenty of confidence with out drugs, it's just that Ephedrine forces me to get up and socialize, almost like being driven by a motor.

Dextroamphetamine doesn't make me compulsively social like Ephedrine does, maybe it's the noradrenaline (NE) effects? I should try Adderall...
 
I wouldn't catergorise any of those drugs in the same ballpark as tramadol...tramadol is an opioid, is physically addicting and gives a mild opioid buzz (with low seizure threshold at recreational doses).

None of those other drugs are opioids...It's a bit like apples and pears.

Personally I think tramadol is crap...On pretty much every level...haha. Worse than all those empathogens, recreationally.
 
PlurPsyed said:
Adderall. Always makes school and work fun. Just be careful, it's ridiculously addictive and it's really difficult to stop yourself from compulsively redosing
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100% agree. My favorite social drug of all time.
 
I was about to say cocaine, but if you don't have the cash, get some adderall or this street speed your talking about. also IME, 50 mgs of mdma would not even change me from baseline, i've never felt anything form any dose lower than 100mgs, but i have a crazy stim tolerance, so idk
 
Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
I was about to say cocaine, but if you don't have the cash, get some adderall or this street speed your talking about. also IME, 50 mgs of mdma would not even change me from baseline, i've never felt anything form any dose lower than 100mgs, but i have a crazy stim tolerance, so idk
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I weigh 60-65kg's. And I don't have a tolerance to stims. I do use stims, but very infrequent as I don't want to fuck myself up. And the time I took 30-50mg's of MDMA, was my first time EVER trying MDMA.

Obviously what I felt could have gone unnoticed if one didn't know what to look for/had no knowledge of taking MDMA. But I have experience with some empathogens and stims so I knew where to look to see changes from baseline.

It was a very small mood lift, easily achievable through natural means. I was also pretty happy that I had finally gotten my hands on some good crystal, maybe that also contributed to the nice feeling and self-confidence.
 
magicegg said:
Honestly, I'm probably going to be laughed out of the thread for this, but my answer would be none at all. If you have problems being sociable, you should try to focus on the cause of your social anxiety, or whatever your issue is, not take drugs to overcome it.
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Anxiety and OCD are brain chemistry problems which one can't just "overcome" :/ I have an OCD issue which doesn't ever subside, I can NEVER relax without drugs or physical exhaustion, it's very frustrating to be constantly worried about EVERYTHING.

Hope that makes sense anyway.. just my 2 cents :)
 
5000m said:
Anxiety and OCD are brain chemistry problems which one can't just "overcome" :/ I have an OCD issue which doesn't ever subside, I can NEVER relax without drugs or physical exhaustion, it's very frustrating to be constantly worried about EVERYTHING.

Hope that makes sense anyway.. just my 2 cents :)
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Anxiety is for sure something you can overcome. I was on high dose benzodiazepine therapy for like a decade and I learned more about how to enjoy a anxiety free life in the year after quitting than in like a decade of medication therapy. OCD is another thing.
 
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