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Stimulants Stims and the potential for fact supported potentiation with external stimili

blight12

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This was a response to a related thread that probably got bulleted and didn't exist when i hit submit but it reminded me of a post i wanted to make already in any case.

My post is related to music as well but I feel its appropriate for this section since the query is on the topic of potential for potentiating dopamine drugs with external stimuli made viable likely due the mechanism of action in terms of the reward activity and the reliance of external factors in influencing the desired effects.

Probably complicated or would see value with technical responses or feedback and thus OD exposure would be appropriate. I realize this might might not be taken seriously, but i request that in the event i am somehow delusional, a confirmation and explanation to clarify this would really be appreciated.

I recently noted the impressive effect of music on the high and while this is an obvious common effect and expected, i didnt really notice or appreciate it to the level of impact this can have for a long time due to always being caught up with other things and music in the background or at low volume.

I recently experienced music loud and with full attention and focus and the impact is profund and impressive and by far the most euphoric experience i have felt by far.

In fact when i tried this i was into a binge and loosing good effects without help from more dosing and dealing with this disappointment and planning ending things but listening to some music to distract me from the annoyances with headphones was so powerful in effect it literally modified my high from bordering on side effects overtaking the barely noticable good stuff and which felt as no longer worth it or beneficial or fun at this point, to potentiating euphoria and good things from basically dead to the most euphoric I have ever felt on this drug ever, even compared to any other time day one or first ideal dose and high doses as well. No comparison.

Without a doubt the effect was in the range of absolute certainty that any attempts at increased additional dosage at the point in time would never have any possibility or hope of comparable or equal effects and not even close at all whatsoever to the effect of simple stimuli change. This result really astonishes me since i cant really explain or reconcile how this is even possible at all and whats happening here because if the dropamine has run out like it probably had, how could anything have brought back its full effect like this?

I was literally experiencing that rush and tingling sensation and euphoric peaks that go with it in a regular permanent degree rushing balls every few seconds for some time. It was numbingly paralyzingly intense and magical and with no equal for month of previous use and many high doses. I did not know this was possible.

Now this made more obvious the fact that the reward activity of the drug and the euphoria it provides, while always in effect and influencing everything to a significant degree ensuring a consistently positive and desired reliable experience, does and can be improved upon and influenced to greater degree with specific stimulus, music being one, maybe there are more high impact options.

This makes me think about the possible potential for significantly improving or potentiating the desired and positive effects of the drug by using external or environmental stimuli to do so instead of other chemicals and unlike other drugs, these dopamine stims function on reward and rely on activity and external factors to provide the opportunity to deliver the reward as by its definition it requires an action for a reward to take place, and therefore non chemical or the idea of external potentiation could work well in this way in theory at least, however in my experience this seems entirely possible and worth attempt.

And to clarify there is potential beyond any of the logical standard mechanisms or reasons that might explain why any enjoyable activity would logically improve your experience or state of mind or perceived euphoria in any state you might be in. For sure but the actual effects are far beyond any reasonable explanation in this regard and it is utterly obvious that other factors are at play, and likely due to the greater role external stimuli play due to the drugs mechanism of action i can only guess

Any thoughts on this. Its an odd or perhaps crazy idea but it seems possible and worth a look at least. I just need to know if its real or madness.

I would like a confirmation if any of the technical facts in terms of function support this idea in any way or if its some side effect of experience from another source. I will say im experienced with similar effects and dont get a raging hard on any longer by the usual although considerable range of normal and interest effects that can manifest at times.

This was something of a different degree for sure at the very least due to impossible results delivered at a later state of a session when this cannot be expected even with more dosage. Naturally i want to take advantage if at all possible.
 
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I bump this in the interest of harm reduction. Kids; if you can write essays like this on amphetamines, there's still hope you can stop using. And you should.
I'm not being all preachy; merely pointing out the meth-fueled rant turns from the OP to this, all too soon.

On a side note: What the fuck? Seriously. What the literal fuck.
 
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Anything cardio.
Or anything that causes a surge in adrenaline.

Nothing safe, quit while you're ahead.
Seriously.
 
Blight12, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
I honestly lost track on what you were trying to say. But yes listening to music enhances the experience by a lot. Common knowledge haha
 
Blight12, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

If this was a drug you could sell it by the point. Quoted for motherfucking truth.

I'm surprised that dumb shit didn't break bluelight
 
I honestly lost track on what you were trying to say. But yes listening to music enhances the experience by a lot. Common knowledge haha

He wasn't trying to communicate anything. Evidentally. He didn't even TRY. He simply word salad'd out all over my police-run drug forum of choice. Like when an overdosing clown pukes all over your loafers.
Only rookies vomit when they OD / have a wicked jab anyway. Seasoned vets dry reach; a real drug addict doesn't have any food to bring up, and is too dehydrated to be producing bile.
It's for this reason I've never chucked from drugs.

^see? That's an amphetamine rant. off topic and rambling, but there's a common point sorta, and the words are arranged to pretend to be sentences. Even though realistically it's just cooked bullshit; I went to the effort to make it sounds like people talk. unlike the blight12 on society ^^^ up there.

Worst part is; he probably got high enough to write... that... on less than i'd even get an effect from. Fuck amphetamine tolerance.
 
i'll have to revisit this thread after taking more d-amp; even now, it's a bit too much to wrap my head around.

external stimuli? like school work? writing nonstop rambling posts on BL? masturbating? yeah that improves a stimulant high for sure lol. I can sit at home doing math for 8-10 hours straight while stimmed and you can't even pull me away from it, it just gives me a good feeling.If i'm gonna get spun and have no external stimuli at all, i'd rather just be shot.
 
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well if anyone wants to carry out that study i'll participate.

http://journals.lww.com/neuroreport...ne_toxicity_in_mice_is_potentiated_by.26.aspx

didn't really get the results you'd expect, seems like subjects (rats lol) were just aggravated by loud music while stimmed which isn't a good scenario lol. It does seem to show some correlation with increased levels of say NE SE DA and music, perhaps overly loud music pushing NE or DA levels over the top, causing aggression but perhaps at the right level and the right mix of both, they could enhance each other.

http://www.jsad.com/jsad/article/Music_Substance_Use_and_Aggression/1485.html

this is not really related but may still show that musical content, being the external stimuli interacts somehow with the drug that's been taken. I can't find anything else other than studies about drug use and culture and unrelated shit like that.
 
well if anyone wants to carry out that study i'll participate.

http://journals.lww.com/neuroreport...ne_toxicity_in_mice_is_potentiated_by.26.aspx

didn't really get the results you'd expect, seems like subjects (rats lol) were just aggravated by loud music while stimmed which isn't a good scenario lol. It does seem to show some correlation with increased levels of say NE SE DA and music, perhaps overly loud music pushing NE or DA levels over the top, causing aggression but perhaps at the right level and the right mix of both, they could enhance each other.

http://www.jsad.com/jsad/article/Music_Substance_Use_and_Aggression/1485.html

this is not really related but may still show that musical content, being the external stimuli interacts somehow with the drug that's been taken. I can't find anything else other than studies about drug use and culture and unrelated shit like that.

Stop trying to read anything into the regurgitated mess of words in the OP. you'll hurt your brain. The neurotoxicity of reading retarded shit on bluelight is outrageous. don't do it!
 
I understood the OP, its just a pipe dream... I've felt those euphoric waves from music and also from daydreaming pleasant scenarios or replaying pleasant memories in my head. You'd feel it w/ or w/out drugs. But on drugs you get that effect + the drug hiigh

If u want other external non chemical stimuli to send you into euphoric bliss. By it being combined with already euphoric drugs, there's music, meditation and sex perhaps. But you won't find some holly grail that when experienced while high will make it feel like your peaking all over again every single time to that same degree. Sure once or tewice everything lines up perfectly but never will this happen with the same consistency as taking a drug
 
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