sticking needles in my arm

Dr.kush

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Havent shot up heroin in 6 months thats the longest i have gone, and i just tripped out that its been that long. But just chilling here at my house starting to comedown from a weed high, and im just fiending to shoot up. Not the rush in particular but just the act of finding a vein and then boom that awesome rush as the pay off.

Does that feeling ever go away? like not strongly craving it?

Is it possible for you to just get that rush one more time? thats what i want baaad:(

does it get better
 
I have no experience with IV but the idea of "one more time" has never worked for me. It seems to usually be an excuse to do something without guilt because it's the last time. Then the next time the same excuse can be used, etc. etc. If you NEED it one more time then that need will continue to be there if you give in to it. The need, in my opinion, should be the focus.

If you need to follow your cravings then they will control you, and it will be difficult to limit your use to a pattern that works for you.

And some drugs are easier to use occasionally than others. What I've seen with most opiate users is that it is an all or nothing affair. Although I do know somebody to use heroin once a week or so despite having been a daily user before. He is not happy with this and wants to cut out it completely. But there are of course big risks involved.
 
it does go away...

its the only thing guaranteed with this stuff.


also, boredom is the enemy..!
hahah... its true.

if i start becoming bored, i ask myself why first.
you will get an answer, that you determine the value in.

<3
:)
 
It goes away imo and the longer you stay off it you can actually develop a loathing for the drug.

If you talk to people with lots of time clean they might tell you they still think about their DOC, but a lot of them speak with disdain towards it. Also happens in break ups. After a month the person is a mess and wants their lover back regardless of the price.

After 6 months they still think about them, but reassociate a lot of their virtues as faults.

After 2 years, maybe they still cross their mind once a day, but the gap that time creates will tend to fill up with a lot of facts/reality/negative bs rather than rose tinted fantasies about something that never existed (like thinking we actually liked our lives on drugs).

Fastforward even more time, say 10 years, and a total unforgiving hate can wash out a lot of the memories.
Or if hate is too strong a word, maybe finally just accepting regret for past decisions.

For me, a year of meth I still thought about getting high, the rush, being in a state of paranoid euphoria, I told myself I still liked it and would go back one day.

After 2-3 years, it no longer felt right thinking of something that way that realisitically destroyed an essential part of my life (teen years/early college).

Now, almost 11 years later. I have a hate for meth that is relentless and consistent. No more bouncing back and forth between love/hate like in the initial years off it. I rarely if ever think about it anymore only usually if I'm reading posts on here. And there is not even the slightest bit of love left for it anymore. Once that love is dead, truely dead, there is no way around it imo.

I can look at meth, meth labs, meth pipes, ephedrine, matches, iodine, engine starter fluid (ether), all the things that use to trigger a desire to use, now trigger a hate that is likely one of the deepest hates I have for anything in this world.
From how immense and powerful the cravings use to be, that have done a complete and total 180 in the other direction over the years. It DOES happen. You just need to really not use that drug at all. I never relapsed on meth after I quit, and if I did after 2-3 years, who knows what my perception of it would be like now? Maybe I would still get cravings. But I had hit a rock bottom that was so low and disgusting, there was just no way for a relapse to happen. Even when I got intense cravings in the begining, there was always this surreal type of awareness that there was NO WAY in hell that craving would be acted upon.

It was a TKO. The end. I knew it. Cravings DO go away. And that is something I guarantee you. I'm sure in the 6 months you haven't IVd, you're seeing that pattern of dissassociation to some degree. But also realize 6 months is nothing in addiction time. It likely took me 7 or 8 years before I felt strong in the face of speed. But when that happened, I realized there was no way in the world I would ever go back. And I can tell you with 100% certainty today, its one drug I will never use again. I don't miss it anymore. Its dead to me. And so is the person that drug created.

But that doesn't mean I'm cured of my addiction. I'm cured of my addiction to speed, but I'm still eligible to succumb to addictions to drugs that don't trigger that hate. Like opiates. It became my new love. And I genuinely hope I don't need to reach that same type of low before I realize I can live w/out it. Thats why I'm trying to walk away now, I'm trying my best, but opiates really are a different animal altogether.

Point being, if you've made it 6 months. Try really fucking hard not to relapse. There is NEVER "one time". We used every day, traded our lives and loved ones, gfs, jobs, anything we had to keep using. I guarantee it will not be one time. You haven't been away from it long enough. Really consider that. And goodluck man. It DOES get easier, I think that part is honestly inevitable.
 
thank you Bojangles69!

Its so hard for me but i think i just have to do it, its an overwhelming urge im planning and trying to scrounge up money a week in advance, im planing on using this weekend. After the weekend ill stop everything. Im going to a friends house and he lives like 20 mins away. And i havent got my license yet so my mom drives so i cant get out there when i wan to. So i whatever i get that weekend will be the only H i can get. My connect where i live stopped using, and i cant get it any where else. So i think its fool proof plan to just go out for a weekend and slam as much as possible. But how does that sound?
 
Yes, it does get better but it takes time. I mean right now I'm still using but I know if I tried I could actually get clean. I've only been shot up with morphine a couple of times and when I think about it I can feel the rush. It makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about it though because I do not want to do it any more. Even though my mind is trying to tell me otherwise but you've made it this far so why give up now? If it gets really bad you could always just stick a needle into your arm with no drugs what so ever in it. I mean it won't be the best of ideas but it could possibly somewhat help.
 
"So i think its fool proof plan to just go out for a weekend and slam as much as possible. But how does that sound? "

it isnt this easy. if it were every-one could use if needed or wanted.

plus going back being over zealous, and psyched up for a good one; thinking "as much as possible" with zero tolerance sounds like a trap to me.


nothing is going to be as meaningful as getting there, and doing that the longer it continues... i couldnt chose that life, i didnt and now thinking of iv cocaine or IV use in general, again sounds like the quickest way to suck what does hold meaning in my life, out.
 
OP do you mean clean from just the needle or opiates too. I know for many its one in the same if they have dope its getting mainlined. For me personally I use opiates
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a few tines a week throughout the year and shoot one or two days every one or two months. While are situations are different there is certainy more desire to use a needle when the last use is still fresh in the mind, andc that desire ease's as time passes. In my case I still use without shooting so I do not have the craving of the drug intermixed with that of the needle, making the fight easie.

Regardless I am sure your cravings will lose intensity with time, just stay strong Dr. Kush, you can do this you already have incredible progress at six months you should be veery proud.
 
Yo

Yo mate...

I just signed up for this forum pretty much in exactly the same situation as you. This is my first post.

I have been clean off heroin for about 4 months now, I only was using about $150 a day at my worst for about 8-9 weeks in total.

But still... GAH.

I had used needles before with morphine/methadone/other shit... but heroin of course, is a different ball game.

I am recovering from cold & flu symptoms at the moment, a Thursday - Saturday meth binge + weekends of partying/alcohol and getting stuck out in the rain has taken a toll on me.

The last time i experienced these cold/flu like symptoms was when i was coming down off gear & bupremorphine etc... I have been thinking about using heroin for the past 48 hours, every 45 mins at least... its constantly on my mind.

I was debating using just "1 cap" because i cant afford anymore than that anyway at the moment to ease my cold/flu symptoms.

Somehow, miraculously, i have made it like 2 days now without buying gear and my cold is getting better, so im having a harder and harder time justifying myself to use it.

Anyway this is probably also my last post here... I dunno what to say other than KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK NOT USING BRO.

ITS A FUCKING BITCH I KNOW, i just want to stab myself with heroin every god damn second of the day.

If anyone else reading this who has not used heroin before, and has not seen the myriad of similar posts. heed this as your warning :]

stay strong brother,
ex-heroin head from syd AU.

LET YA GLOCK BURST!!!!!!!!!111
 
sticking needles in your arm

I posted pics as nomofosho showing what CAN happen if you shoot dope. I can't remember how to repost them. The pics might make you think again, man.
 
Fix everything els in your life and I doubt youll still want heroin.

go out and get yourself a nice job that you enjoy, your own place, good friends, a beautiful girlfriend who treats you right, and a dog or something. Whats a shot of heroin got on that?

Easier said than done..
 
It gets better, I use to love coke, did it all the time, but couldn't get it anymore so I had to stop, 2 year later i couldn't even stand it anymore.
I hate it. Now its been 10 years later, and some of the new people I met latly do a lot of coke, so its around me again, but I still don't have the urge to do it, in fact the negatives are still in my mind.

But with oxy and other opaties its been a different story for me, I couldn't stop without help.. mostly because it didn't do anything bad to be, beside money wise..

For example when I use to do coke and speed, it would make me feel sick, I would actually get more flu, it would cause anxiety, or when would do too much i felt sick, and would miss work, but not with with oxy. At least not a first, the last 8-9months of my addiction were bad, which makes me not want to go back to it.

Very good job that you been sober for 6 month. I congrad you, the craving will get less and less.
BTW if you ever relapse, u might want to think on going on sub.. It helped me a lot. not does it only take away the craving away, but it helped with my anxiety too, it also makes me feel good when i take it. Im not saying i get high from it like oxy, but when it hits me, i get this good feeling.

I had the same problem as you, I couldnt handle the craving, I would go sober 1-2-3 months sober, then ill be like oh great its been such a long time, let me use again. I would also trip out thinking its been whatever long it has been.
Someone told me these craving can last up to a year.
 
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yes it goes away but it takes a long while, and imo i wouldnt have just "one more", because one more is never just one. once i stopped shooting, that was that. i cant ever pick up a needle again, no matter how much i try and convince myself that i could handle it this time around.
 
Don't do it, addicts always say one more time, but than after the high is gone you say one more time and so on, you end up physically addicted again and can't stop. If your set on doing it at least practice harm reduction and don't inject it. Look up other ways of taking black tar heroin
 
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