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ThinkingAbtRoids

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Hello,

So I have messaged on here before talking about young athletes and their steroid usage. The general consensus I got is that if you are making money and it is worth it then it is worth taking the risk. Well, I am a fairly good looking dude with strong genetics and several lines of models in my family. I asked because I know it has been done in my family and is common in modeling. Not massive doses of steroids but enough for you to look very good. I plan on doing steroids, period. I have done a lot of research for the past 6 months on everything from the endocrine system to the various pros and cons of different steroids. I just want to know, for me specifically what is the ideal cycle? Something not hard on my system to where I could get back to natural test ASAP and something not ment to make me massive but something made to keep me cut but have more defined and slightly larger muscles. I see such mixed messages from everyone during all the research I have done. I just want to know FOR ME (18 years old, 5' 7, 130 pounds, strong diet and program, and really wanting the safest route the ideally wouldn't hinder future growth or test levels). All help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
"18 years old, 5' 7, 130 pounds" and you're wanting it for modeling?

Good lord.. The general consensus is going to be stay the hell away from AAS.

If you've truly researched it then you would know exactly what you are wanting to run for your desired goals.

With that said, low-med dose of test along with some winstrol. You say you want to return to your natural levels but in my experience and the experiences of others that I know and have read about, that just simply doesn't really happen.(especially being 18 years old) Once you do a decent cycle, pct, and get bloodwork months later it's almost never what it was. That's another thing you need to be completely fine with before you even touch a steroid.
 
True research would have led him to the conclusion that he should not be touching AAS at that age and that weight. NO no no no no.

Not worth it. You don't need AAS. You're at the prime age to grow WITHOUT steroids, as currently you're in the peak of your natural production (well, over the next few years will be your peak). Make use of this naturally high level, rather than introduce exogenous steroids triggering suppression or complete shutdown of your natural production - at the absolute worst time in your life you could cause it.

You will screw yourself for gains that could be achieved by simply EATING MORE and following a structured lifting regimen.
 
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True research would have led him to the conclusion that he should not be touching AAS at that age and that weight. NO no no no no.

Not worth it. You don't need AAS. You're at the prime age to grow WITHOUT steroids, as currently you're in the peak of your natural production (well, over the next few years will be your peak). Make use of this naturally high level, rather than introduce exogenous steroids triggering suppression or complete shutdown of your natural production - at the absolute worst time in your life you could cause it.

You will screw yourself for gains that could be achieved by simply EATING MORE and following a structured lifting regimen.
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Well yes obviously I agree with everything you posted, and the kid should not be touching steroids. But anyone who is dead set on using is going to find a reason to justify it in their mind one way or the other.
 
ThinkingAbtRoids said:
Hello,

So I have messaged on here before talking about young athletes and their steroid usage. The general consensus I got is that if you are making money and it is worth it then it is worth taking the risk. Well, I am a fairly good looking dude with strong genetics and several lines of models in my family. I asked because I know it has been done in my family and is common in modeling. Not massive doses of steroids but enough for you to look very good. I plan on doing steroids, period. I have done a lot of research for the past 6 months on everything from the endocrine system to the various pros and cons of different steroids. I just want to know, for me specifically what is the ideal cycle? Something not hard on my system to where I could get back to natural test ASAP and something not ment to make me massive but something made to keep me cut but have more defined and slightly larger muscles. I see such mixed messages from everyone during all the research I have done. I just want to know FOR ME (18 years old, 5' 7, 130 pounds, strong diet and program, and really wanting the safest route the ideally wouldn't hinder future growth or test levels). All help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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130 at your height is pretty small mate, you should still fairly easily gain some more muscle naturally. Plus 18 isn't an ideal age - you're probably still growing and AAS will likely stunt growth permanently. Post up your diet so we have a better idea of your food intake.
 
Philosoraptor said:
Well yes obviously I agree with everything you posted, and the kid should not be touching steroids. But anyone who is dead set on using is going to find a reason to justify it in their mind one way or the other.
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Indeed haha, didn't mean to take anything away from the "but if you're going to do it anyway" part of your post :)
 
Just to clarify, I do not want to take steroids to maximize growth but to reach optimal size vs weight. Basically having the right definition in my muscles etc. I cannot naturally hit the point I am aiming for at the right time frame, simply cannot do it. And like I said, I have done a lot of research I know this is the worst time for me to take steroids I know its unhealthy. What I am saying is that, for the career I am aiming at, I believe the downsides outweigh the positives. I am saying, IF SOMEONE MY AGE WERE TO DO STEROIDS, what is the ideal way to do it in the safest way possible?
 
40mg Anavar per day. 6-8 weeks. Possibly won't shut down your epiphysial plates. Should give you some solidity and definition without softening you out.

You'll need to spend 95% of your time playing with diet and cardio strategies if you plan to retain your gains.

Also given that a lot of anavar ends up being Winstrol (which you don't really want) you'd be wise to test it before use with eg Labmax kits: Google it.
 
CFC said:
40mg Anavar per day. 6-8 weeks. Possibly won't shut down your epiphysial plates. Should give you some solidity and definition without softening you out.

You'll need to spend 95% of your time playing with diet and cardio strategies if you plan to retain your gains.

Also given that a lot of anavar ends up being Winstrol (which you don't really want) you'd be wise to test it before use with eg Labmax kits: Google it.
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I saw Palumbo preaching those, looks pretty neat. I'm slightly color blind so I might be fucked with the whole color chart lol.
 
ThinkingAbtRoids said:
Just to clarify, I do not want to take steroids to maximize growth but to reach optimal size vs weight. Basically having the right definition in my muscles etc. I cannot naturally hit the point I am aiming for at the right time frame, simply cannot do it. And like I said, I have done a lot of research I know this is the worst time for me to take steroids I know its unhealthy. What I am saying is that, for the career I am aiming at, I believe the downsides outweigh the positives. I am saying, IF SOMEONE MY AGE WERE TO DO STEROIDS, what is the ideal way to do it in the safest way possible?
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There is no safe way. It's like huffing or some shit. You can ask all you want but at the end of the day you're doing permanent damage to yourself and guess what? You'll still look like shit.

Put away this retarded instagram modeling dream and open up a book. You'll be richer that way. Fitness modeling isn't a career. You'll just be scrounging pay check to pay check at a shitty grocery store job and probably doing G4P to have enough for food.

CFC said:
40mg Anavar per day. 6-8 weeks. Possibly won't shut down your epiphysial plates. Should give you some solidity and definition without softening you out.

You'll need to spend 95% of your time playing with diet and cardio strategies if you plan to retain your gains.

Also given that a lot of anavar ends up being Winstrol (which you don't really want) you'd be wise to test it before use with eg Labmax kits: Google it.
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Anavar alone...Lol alright.

Legit var ain't possible for an 18 year old to afford anyway.
 
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I think we would need much more info to suggest an ideal cycle anyway... If you only weigh 130, what is your diet composed of? Cal/Day? What type of exercise do you do typically, for how long and how many days/week? Try eating at least 2500-3000 calories/day (of clean, lean food including 160g or so of protein) and lifting 4x8, 5x5 and 3x12-14 sets on muscle groups with a 3 day rotation (1-2 days off/week). The typical rotation is legs/core (abs) one day, chest, tris and shoulders one day, and back and biceps one day. You can play around within it for smaller groups, but you usually want your back and biceps, chest and triceps, and core/legs together because there are many compound muscle exercises within those groups so you can do two, even three muscle groups at once (think squats, presses, pull-ups/downs and you'll understand what I'm saying).

If you can rock a serious work-out plan like this, with good dieting behaviors, and you don't make gains or start to look better after a couple months - then, and only (even maybe) then, should you look into supplementation with hormones. Everyone new on these forums says they want to get "ripped" not "huge" but it doesn't work like that. Even with full cycles with multiple injectables you may not get either unless you know how to work out and eat. I wouldn't be worried about bulking up too much if 5'7, 130 is your natural body frame. I'm naturally 6'0, 175 and my body simply will not allow me to push past 210-215, at which point I still am not "huge" like the body builder competitors (that's why there are physique competitions, some just don't have the genetics to be 270 lbs with 6% bf)

Edit: Oh yeah, and as someone said above, you will probably never truly get back to normal, and if you're 100% certain at 18 that you're going to take steroids, then you will probably take them more than just once, and probably won't cycle properly (off time), because there's no way around it, you will look worse during your breaks, even with proper PCT and workouts. That's why many body builders time their cycles around competitions, and chose certain drugs during different times of year, all things you should learn about before truly changing your life forever...
 
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You're to young to be considering an AAS cycle. At your age your testosterone levels are at peak levels. EAT A LOT, HIGH INTENSITY LIFTING, SLEEP & REPEAT. You would be doing just screwing yourself over by taking roids at your age. You say you want to be a model and/or modeling runs in your family..well, roids do have side effects that can certainly shut down that modeling highway (severe acne, hair loss, stunted growth at your age etc.)

If you would like to start a cycle when you're 24-25, then try a TEST Prop. with a PCT of Nolva or Clomid. I never reccomend multiple roids for a first cycle. Keep it simple at first to see how you respond to additional T-levels.
 
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