steriods... ?

[lil-jungalist-grl]

ok..one of my best friends ,, (whom is REALLY stuborn) has his mind set on trying steriods. i have tried and tried to stop him, but i can only try so hard. he wont listen to me, so basically, ive told him to at least be informed about what he is doing. i told him to go to erowid, but he said he couldnt find steriods on it. so i went for myself,, and i couldnt find it either. is there sum medical name maybe that it would be classified under? and if not, where would i find the info?

 

[someguy]

send him over to this site...
http://www.wannabeafreak.com/

 

[La_casper]

www.anabolex.com
they are very informative over there, i myself use to go there alot.....i am not gonna sit here and make this a long discussion cause everyone has there opinion on steroid use....
yes i do have experience as far as steroids go and i have no problem with them as long as the person knows what they are doing, just like any other DRUG out there.
plus, i also wanted to stress that if your friend is concedering injectable steroids, just like any other injectable DRUG, you must know what you are doing and how to inject properlly!
i will help if you have any more questions....
casper

 

[dpuff]

steroids dont have to be dangerous if you know what you're doing, it's like doing X in a safe way, im soon starting 8 weeks on winstrol

 

[hAppEplum]

can you say 'bitch tits'
try to keep him away from steroids. My boyfriend did it for 6 months, and it f**ked him up royally. His nipples are always sore and i cant even touch them. He has scars from the spots that he got from steroids etc.....

 

[RJW]

Originally posted by hAppEplum:
can you say 'bitch tits'
try to keep him away from steroids. My boyfriend did it for 6 months, and it f**ked him up royally. His nipples are always sore and i cant even touch them. He has scars from the spots that he got from steroids etc.....
Sounds to me like your boyfriend should have researched before using them. Gynocomastia can be avoided with certain meds or another option in anabolics.
I have NO idea how he can have scars. What kind of spots? Did he get severe acne?
I have been a bodybuilder for 12 years, most of the time using anabolics. if you/ he has a question let me know.

 

[La_casper]

Originally posted by hAppEplum:
can you say 'bitch tits'..
yes i too would have to agree that if your BF has "bitch tits"....then no offence but he did not research as much as he should have. to be perfectlly honest when i first started i too did not know everything and made a few bad desicions myself. i do not have full grown BT's, but i do have some puffyness around the nipple area....so i cannot stress enough that steroids just like anthing other you need to do your homework.
and DPUFF, if you are starting a 8 week cycle of winstrol, depending on what you are going for i think some nice testosterone would go nicelly with it. not sure if you are trying to bulk, maintain, or what. it is just an opinion.
casper

 

[PhreeX]

I used to be ignorant about steroids too, hell, less then a year ago I would be making posts about "bitch tits" and all that - but the truth is that on a PROPER CYCLE they can really enhance your proformance... abuse will scre you, so research yer shit first!

 

[FreakK]

alright PHREEX...
yeah, ROIDS are like any other drug, use them in moderation!!they do have side effects, but they can be lessened by smart usage..
i have been around many people who ABUSE steroids year rounds..they take huge doses of the more toxic ones like HALO and ANADROL 50, yet these people havent suffered from many side effects...they have went thru the hair loss/ acne/depression/water retention effects, but those are very minor and temporary..it really does seem to come down to the INDIVIDUAL himself as to whether he wiull suffer from side effects and to which degree he will get them..i have yet to see ONE person i know suffer from BICTH TITS, and like i have said, i have been around the roid game for years...
oh yeah, just order the ANABOLIC REFERENCE GUIDE or ANABOLICS 2000...those are good starting points when it comes to finding out the basics of roid use..
for all u peeps giving out certain web addys, dont do it..

 

[kram696969]

ya send him to one of the other boards mentioned above...goood guys there, tell him just to read...and as for the bitch tits, get some nolvadex and/or arimidex and you shall have no titties, and also get some clomid for post cycle so he gets his nuts going again..steroids are pretty much safe when used proper, just like other drugs. dont forget all the steroids will never add up to a proper diet and proper sleep and other suppliments. steroids are just a little part of training. got anymore questions email me, i got your answers

 

[Ochlocrat]

One thing that really needs to be noted is that steroid abuse is FAR more effective than using them safely and carefully watching for side-effects. From what I've seen, the guy who says "I don't care if I die, I just want a big coffin" gets gains a LOT faster than the guy who says "I can carefully plan a cycle or two without much increased risk to my health." This can convert the former into the latter fairly quickly.
Also, some of the side effects are almost inevitable. Shrinking balls can be avoided with hcg or clomid, and bitch tits can be prevented with nolvadex, but potential voice changing, hair loss, acne, changed sexual drive/function, and, probably most alarmingly, violent and erratic behavior are pretty much part and parcel with the hormonal changes that lead to more muscle growth. One person I know who was VERY cautious with their one cycle ended up asking his doctor MONTHS later if his sex drive would ever come back (it did eventually.)
More to the point, though, are the psychological and self-esteem issues that lead one to chose to use steroids. If you've got a shot at an Olympic medal or a position on a professional football team and steroids will help, maybe then it's time to start talking to doctors and planning a couple cycles. If you want to impress chicks and intimidate enemies with big muscles, then you're a fucking idiot who 1: doesn't realize what most girls find attractive 2: doesn't have a very good sense of your own body and 3: DEFINITELY doesn't know the kind of chick drawn to guys with big muscles.
Personally, I'm tubby when I don't work out and I constantly get accused of using steroids when I do work out. A few months ago I basically stopped lifting weights largely because I was sick and tired of friends trying to get me in fights, being accused of using steroids, and being assumed to be an idiot. I've started working out again cause I don't like being fat, either, but I sort of wish I was the sort of skinny guy who had trouble putting on muscle when he lifted. A little bit of the "grass is always greener" syndrome, I know, but if I should be more comfortable with my body than I am, so too should most people considering using steroids.

 

[rahulkohli]

anabolic review
Elite Fitness
both these sites tell u pretty much anything that you want to know.
im starting a cycle myself soon and i was wondering from anyone who has done a cycle before whether you can take xtc and coke during ur cycle. im taking dbol and anavar. and arimidex and clomid to stop the sides.

 

[La_casper]

Originally posted by FreakK:

for all u peeps giving out certain web addys, dont do it..
and why do you say this???
i personnally used to be a member of the anabolex board, and if i thought there was any harm in giving the addy out i wouldn't have...
casper

 

[PhreeX]

I have no problems with links to message boards - I know there are some REALLY GOOD resources out there, but following the source rule, NO LINKS DIRECTLY TO ANY STEROID SUPPLIERS ..
I support everyones right to use any and every drug, but I disagree with steroids as there ARE side effects, and they are drugs that should really be monitored by a doctor or at least someone with SOME formal training - people that have legit scripts of steroids are constantly having bloodwork done to ensure nothing is going wrong... and while I will admit that I had a lot of mis-conceptions about steroids, not everything I thought negetive about them was false...
So if you use, then make DAMN SURE you have done your research, and make sure you're getting the real thing...

 

[RJW]

Originally posted by PhreeX:
So if you use, then make DAMN SURE you have done your research, and make sure you're getting the real thing...
That about sums it up. There are ALOT of bunk steroids going around and, unfortunately, people will sell them to newbies. Lots of good sites are availible if you take the time to do the research.

 

[Bigwhammy1]

Hey I'm new to this board, my kind of topics hehehe... That aside, I'm also into bodybuilding and have done my share of roids. Yes the negative side effects can be eliminated by proper use of acessory medications. It's also true you can't fix an internal (emotional) problem with an external solution. However I look at it like this... I like hotrod cars and they're expensive, but if I can safely hotrod my body by working out and juicing in moderation, then isn't that more valuable to me than any car? It gives you more strength and stamina which gives you real confidence... it's not just how you look. I wrote series about the anabolic message boards at the webzine Anabolicextreme.com a couple years ago. I suggest you look through the back issues there especially the cycle guides by Grendel.
Oh yeah, What's up CASPER? I remember you from back in the day at Anabolex, that board used to be wild. Kind of boring now...
[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Bigwhammy1 ]

 

[La_casper]

WTF?! e-mail him, it's not like his address is hidden... he is a greenlighter, so it's expected he wouldn't know to mail you, but you have been around longer... yes, it's great that you know him, now take it to email..
-This editPost by PhreeX
[ 27 January 2002: Message edited by: PhreeX ]

 

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

im not against steroids ,but i dont see why you would want to use them if you dont have somthin like the MR.olympia on your shoulders,what i am sayin if ya dont have somthin that important ,why risk it...problems can still ocure in educated use,but look at my pic..i have never used ROIDS,you can do it without it,i mean you have to go OFF the cycle eventually or you are FUCKIN with disaster<steroids are mentally addictive cause you take a 260-lbs. guy that benches well over 500 lbs.,has 21-inch. arms ...35 inch. legs ---all on steroids ,but when he goes off the cycle he might weigh 190 ,struggle to get 300 1 time -have 17 inch. arms,( i have seen this myself)..they get back on a cycle as quick as possible and thats where the problems start to acure)...but i am not downin the people that use the roids positivley

 

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

im not against steroids ,but i dont see why you would want to use them if you dont have somthin like the MR.olympia on your shoulders,what i am sayin if ya dont have somthin that important ,why risk it...problems can still ocure in educated use,but look at my pic..i have never used ROIDS,you can do it without it,i mean you have to go OFF the cycle eventually or you are FUCKIN with disaster<steroids are mentally addictive cause you take a 260-lbs. guy that benches well over 500 lbs.,has 21-inch. arms ...35 inch. legs ---all on steroids ,but when he goes off the cycle he might weigh 190 ,struggle to get 300 1 time -have 17 inch. arms,( i have seen this myself)..they get back on a cycle as quick as possible and thats where the problems start to acure)...but i am not downin the people that use the roids in good sense

 

[PhreeX]

Originally posted by RJW:
There are ALOT of bunk steroids going around and, unfortunately, people will sell them to newbies.
This is one of the big things that NOT a myth - most of the steroids on the street are counterfeit/fake .. yeah, I know you all have mad connects at your local gym and you get the real shit so it must just be me getting bunk shit - nope, this isn't the case, most people that are not already living that lifestyle do not have the hookups to precur real steroids - the big names like Deca, Winstrol, Sustenon, and um, I forget the others are most often fake... search yahoo for "fake steroids" and you will find a bunch of articles .. my old roomate had a friend that was a total roid freak, he was as "hooked up" as anyone could get yet he was getting burned from time to time ..
Personally I am not against steroid use (or any drug for that matter) but I must remind all the chronic users that if you can't do it without the juice, whats the point? If you just need that boost to get started, thats one thing, but if you are totally dependant upon these chemicals with hard to pronounce names, you might want to evaluate things and ask yourself if it IS really worth the facade of being a super muscle man when you can't be half of the person you are when you're off yer cycle ..
If this is simply a self-esteem problem then get some narcotics - I look goofy as shit (like 6'1" 150lbs, no muscle tone at all) but damnit, I ain't afraid to get nekid for a girlie when I am floating on my "proformance enhencing drugs" ..