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Sterilizing nasty cali black tar

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Ok even though this is not even close to worthy of ADD all i got told in BDD was don't sterilize and everything will probably be fine so im going to post it here. I was thinking that an acid/base purification like the one outlined on erowid:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin_info5.shtml
would be effective, and would also kill most of the infectious agents like stayph and botulism, however I am a little worried because BTH generally contains mono-acetylmorphine as opposed to diacetylmorphine. I am also unclear as to whether black tar is uniformly in freebase form, or if there can be some variation. Thanks.
 
...why don't you just autoclave the solution? Or if you don't have one, just put it in a pressure cooker for 25 minutes.
 
Unfortunately, it is quite a bitch. Tar is a very crude blend of 6-MAM, DAM, Morphine etc, and many inactive and or partially-unreacted alkaloids. It is a resinous material that is NOT suitable for inject. Aside from sterility, you are injecting a sludge which may contain plant particulates and various things that should never be injected. Nonetheless, I have injected my fair share of this stuff, and was never really able to "clean" it up to a point where it is not sketchy. There is one very low yielding way to do it, using alot of tar to get one injection of micron filtered solution that is very light yellow and translucent, but again, you have to "waste" quite a bit to yield a solution of this caliber, and is not practical. I also tried some methods dissolved in various solvents in a centrifuge, as well direct attempts to isolate certain salts (not so easy), and various extractions and re-precipitations, washes etc etc. Logistically, this is far too expensive and impractical for heroin users.


Aside from this, there are less complicated "safer" way of injecting tar as is, but you will again need to "waste" some tar in the process. Yes you can shot it up with a crude cotton filtration and you will get "more for your money" in terms of effects, but you may pay the price later on.....

And there is little to NO uniformity with tar heroin. Batches range wildly in content, some of the crumbly dry tar is usually the easiest to purify. Soft, gummy and pliable tar is the worst quality, and should be avoided. A "decent" tar heroin specimen is generally very dark, harden chunks similar to a harden candy, and is difficult to cut, and can be shattered/smashed. The best I can really offer is, use bacteriostatic water ALWAYS, fresh syringes, and based on your budget, micron filter it using alot of fluid multiple times.

Also, to sterilize, dissolve the tar in a rather large amount of pure ethanol (if you cannot obtain it, you can use176 proof everclear - not homemade, the legal bottled kind). For example, for .5 grams (a typical balloon size), use 10ml of the ethanol to get a diluted solution, let it sit to kill various pathogens, run it through a a 1.2 micron filter a few times, then a .8 micron, and finally allow the ethanol to evaporate. This will not necessarily kill all pathogens, but it will kill quite a broad spectrum After you have done this, let it remain in the suspension until the ethanol evaporates (I use a hotplate at low temp). After this, add 3cc of bateriostatic water to the now dry and cleaner heroin. I used to use the high setting on the hot plate (this was all done in pyrex) for a few seconds to flash sterilize it further. This could be option I suppose. If you do not have access to 5cc syringes with proper screw on needles and only have insulin syringes, add perhaps 2cc instead of 3cc and very slowly at low heat, evaporate the excess water.

Suspended in bacteriostatic water, run it through a .4 and then .2 micron filter, and you will have a "safer" tar heroin.
 
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You can just dissolve it in some isopropyl alcohol and then evaporate that. You can actually just inject the the tar in the isopropyl because isopropyl is an FDA-approved agent for IV inection.
 
Right but an acid base extraction would remove any non alkaloid, or water insoluble dilutants. But it should keep any active opiates other than maybe fentanyl still in the solution. So I think that it would still be the most effective, and least wasteful process. I guess that I wanted to confirm that 6-MAM and morphine are all water soluble, and don't have any weird reactions to acids that i didn't know about. I feel you negrogesic that this extensive of a wash and precipitation is far to time consuming and costly for a habitual heroin user. Luckily I am not at that point yet so I can spend the time to clean it up. An advantage of cali tar is it is insanely cheap so you can obtain an ounce very easily often for the same price as a gram would be in like NYC, and even if only half of it is actually product you should be set for a while.
 
thesomoan said:
Right but an acid base extraction would remove any non alkaloid, or water insoluble dilutants. But it should keep any active opiates other than maybe fentanyl still in the solution. So I think that it would still be the most effective, and least wasteful process. I guess that I wanted to confirm that 6-MAM and morphine are all water soluble, and don't have any weird reactions to acids that i didn't know about. I feel you negrogesic that this extensive of a wash and precipitation is far to time consuming and costly for a habitual heroin user. Luckily I am not at that point yet so I can spend the time to clean it up. An advantage of cali tar is it is insanely cheap so you can obtain an ounce very easily often for the same price as a gram would be in like NYC, and even if only half of it is actually product you should be set for a while.
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I'd reread negrogesic's post!
 
I'm sorry if there was confusion I was not trying to discount negrogesics advice, I was merely saying that given access to materials like hydrochloric acid, ammonia, and ethyl ether which I have, I think that an A/B extraction is safer than a straight ethanol filteration. I agree that his procedures are an absolute bare minimum requirement.
I have confirmed that an A/B procedure is effective on BTH, and would strongly recommend it to anyone, as you obtain 2-400mg of an offwhite powder upwards of 85% purity per gram of tar. This means that your saving yourself 6-800mg of shoe polish and sand, and additionally it's a lot easier to gauge how much you are doing. The only adaptation i would recommend is to use a syringe and micron filter in step one instead of a pipette. you are going to find a ridiculous amount of solids in BTH and you will waste a lot of liquid if you try using a dropper.
 
Look at photos of black tar on Erowids site. One picture of black tar was taken in Mexico and is a drier looking more charcoal black that appears to be crumbly..The next picture of tar is taken from colorado and is very wet, resionous looking ,like a wet gumy opium like substance..I think this shows IMO that the purer better quality tar is more dry,crumbly and the majority of US tar is the sticky,wet, resin like nasty looking sludge..This is only an observation and my opinion, but I think that the dry,more crumbly charcoal black colored tar is much cleaner and purer,as opposed to the wet,resin like sticky sludge most coomon in the US..
 
what the hell is tar cut with in the western US?

why do cartels transport shit in this condition? It's gotta be like twice the mass and bulk of pure dope, so what's the payoff? surely you'd want to smuggle the lightest product possible
 
Tar is cut with shoe polish, rat feces, coffee grounds, mud and just about anything else. First of all tar is made directly from opium latex instead of from pure morphine, so it inherently has a lot of impurities, second of all cocaine is the main earner for the Mexican cartels, so they put much less effort into heroin. Often times dealers and middle men cut the tar with whatever they can find either so that they can siphon of some for personal use, or simply to make more money. Finally since tar often times does not come in pre-wrapped packages by the mid level dealer, but is instead divided out and wrapped by street level dealers, you have to deal with the impurities that junkies introduce either to intentionally cut the product, or simply because of the unsanitary conditions they are often in. Also, by its nature tar is very easy to cut with a wide variety of substances, making the need for cleanliness much less important. I would venture a guess that there is a lot of east coast heroin is of a similar purity level but is cut with lactose or caffeine which makes it much less dangerous to shoot simply because of the color of the powder and the manner in which it is sold.
 
red22 said:
You can just dissolve it in some isopropyl alcohol and then evaporate that. You can actually just inject the the tar in the isopropyl because isopropyl is an FDA-approved agent for IV inection.
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is this true? If so it seems like a few drops of isopropyl alcohol should a standard addition for prepping shots. what about a tiny bit of everclear, and regardless of which was used isn't it likely to boil off if the shot is heated anyway?
 
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