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starting my suboxone detox. Follow my journey

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SinisterMC

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Hello all, I am making this post so people like me in the same predicament as me can have some hope and maybe a little guidance. I am beginning to start my withdrawal / detox from suboxone today. a brief history, I started taking pills at age 15 maybe two or three times a year not very much. But by the time I reach 24 I had a very close person to me that had a reliable source and a good price so I began to use more and more. For the last 2 years of my pill usage I was at 360 mg per day every day.Then about 2 years ago I was introduced to suboxone. My dose was usually between 4 and 16 mg per day depending on how much I had. I had some severe side effects from the suboxone like headaches, painful joints, stiffness and it just felt like my life revolves around this drug. Now two years after starting it I am ready to be off of it. I was able to get my dosage down to 2 milligrams per day, and I am now ready to jump off. I know a lot of people say that is still too high of a dose but I said screw it, let's see what I can do. I'm going to give a quick rundown of what I am going to use during this detox program, I have St John's wort, clonidine, soma, and requip. the st. John's wort is obviously over the counter. The other 3 are prescription only but if you do a search on the internet you can find anything you want, trust me, that's where I got mine. The Clonidine is used to help lower my blood pressure and take away the cold sweats. The soma is going to be helpful for my sleep, hopefully. And the Requip is supposed to help with the arm and leg restlessness, which for me is honestly the worst part of the withdrawals. too often I see post that people make stating they heard this works they heard that works but they are not sure because they have never tried the products there talking about. I hope people use my post as a guide, I will let you know what works and what does not. I am also using this forum as a kind of therapy session and hopefully other users and their posts can help me get through this difficult time. Only about four or five people in my life know about my problem and I have been very good at keeping it a secret from the rest. My wife is my backbone she has been with me from the beginning, well since I first told her which was halfway through my battle until now and I know she will be with me all the way through. She is counting on me at the same time I am counting on her. If I need days off from work I will not have a problem calling in sick, that is just a benefit of my job that many do not have which I am very fortunate to have. I took my last dose of Suboxone this morning so I know I will not start feeling the withdrawal effects until tomorrow evening. I will constantly be updating my posts and letting people know how I am doing. Please feel free to give me any information you may have or any insight that might benefit me or any others reading this forum.sorry for such a long post, if anyone wants to know anything else about my history please feel free to ask, I have nothing to hide on this site I'm sure we all been there and many have done what I have done. Thanks, hope to hear from any of you, and I hope I can inspire some others like others have inspired me.
 
Well I'm on Day 6 going on day 7 of oxycodone withdrawls. I'm sure I'll be online as well while we go through this. We can talk it out if you'd like.
I'm glad you told your wife. I'm in this alone. No one knows. Not my husband, not my friends. I'm on the mend alone.
Here is to a new year! We got this!
 
I look forward to reading about your ongoing journey. It's great that you have your wife and a forgiving job. But it is even more wonderful to read the resolve in your voice and the gratitude that you feel for the support you have--both good ingredients for success.:)<3

One thing that I have noticed over the years of being here is that whatever small group of people happen to be seeking recovery here at the same time can be of enormous help to each other. There is a distance because of the internet that can be a great complement to meetings. Help the people around you and you end up helping yourself. Sometimes you write something and it clarifies something for you even though you may have been addressing another person. Or sometimes just saying, "help talk me through this craving" when it is the middle of the night and you can find someone here online--even though they are halfway around the world--can be a lifesaver.

@FlyLila--do you think your husband would over-react?
 
Well I'm coming up on hour 36. Things aren't too bad at the moment. Just a little tired, physically. And a slight discomfort witch honestly this sounds strange, but the discomfort feels as if its coming from my soul.... I know it sounds strange, but in the middle of my chest/stomach it just feels empty. I did take a clonidine earlier this afternoon and within a half hour my cold sweats were gone. A scale of 1 to 10, I'm maybe at a level 2.5, so I'm not doing that bad. Flylila, I hope you can continue to push through and win this battle, I know it feels your alone in the battle at the moment, but we're here. Also herbavore, thanks, I'm trying my hardest. I hope my determination and struggle can help at least one other person going through the same hell as me and many others at the moment.
 
Hour 53 or so. Got about 4 hours of sleep, thinking the Soma's I took helped a lot on that part. Got up this morning and got a little to eat. Took a clonidine and I don't have any cold sweats, so that's a plus. But I got a call from my sister, and my niece is having her baby, so I'm here with them at the hospital. Not the place I'd like to be at the moment, but at least if I totally break down and freak out, I can walk right over to the ER, lol. But I do feel somewhat decent. 1 to 10, I'm maybe a 4. I'll take that. I started to sneeze and get the runny nose this morning, and my eyes feel like I haven't slept in weeks. Oh the joy. Hope everyone else is having a great day.
 
How are you doing now? I'm on month 3 of Suboxone withdrawal... I jumped off at around the 8mgs strips.. did not do any tapering and yes it's been bloody hell. The fact that you are already at 2mg is a good sign, doesn't mean it is going to be easy. I have done plenty of research and most threads I run into it's people who have used Suboxone for less than 6 months and 2-4 mgs a day! (Nothing compared to what we where taking yet they manage to withdrawal..)

My wife took Suboxone also for half the time (length) and half the dosage and her withdrawals are just as bad as mine!

Good luck and good choice to get off ~ not going to be easy :S
 
Ugghhh, hour 76 since my last sub. And its probably the worst I've felt yet. Yawn,yawn,yawn, just can't stop. My eyes feel like there being filled with air, and being pushed out of my Head. Just feel shity. 1 to 10, I'm reaching a number 7. Just gotta push through. Tried to get a protein shake down, since regular food, I just can't do. But I can only get half my shake down. Oh, I can't wait for this to be over.
 
Hour 100, god damn, its been a struggle. At this moment, its probably the hardest its been so far. I woke up this morning all sweaty and I looked in the mirror, it looks like my face has been beatin. I was able to get about 6 hours of sleep last night. A friend of mine gave me a few ativan's (similar to xanax). Also my dad hooked me up with some tramadols. I only take one during the day and one at night if needed. It takes away the throbbing head ache. I know some people would say not to take the trams because you'll be trading one pill addiction for another, but trust me. The last 2 years of my pill addiction I was railing 300-360 mg of oxy every night all at once. Trams are like oduels beer to me. Plus I only have 10 of them, and I could never find those on the streets where I'm from, just not enough demand for them. The clonidine is a life saver though, it completely takes away the cold sweats. Makes me a little tired though. 1 to 10, I'm at an 8 today. Hope its the peak of the mountain today, and the WD are all down hill from here. I hope. Another thing that sucks, its winter at the moment, no snow where I'm at, just damp cold and wet outside. That's Washington for you though. Summer might have been a better time, but I was so ready for this. This is one new years resolution I AM going to keep.
 
Day 8. WD are not as bad, well some of them are not as bad as they were a couple days ago. But the restless forearms and lack of sleep is driving me crazy. I tried everything from all the different minerals and supps, like magnessium and calcium. Melatonion, hell even tried the old bar of soap under the sheets. None of that worked at all. I been taking my clonidine, witch does help the cold sweats. And I also got some hydroxyzine. It helps a tiny bit as far as the cold sweats. Just need to get some much needed sleep. But over all, I'm happy with my progress, never made it to the 3rd day mark before. So 8+ days, I'm happy with that.
 
Man, I'm at hour 204 free of sub's. During the day my symptoms arnt so bad, just tired and a headache. But then comes the night time symptoms. The worst is the RLS, both in my legs and in my forearms. I slept maybe 3-4 hours in the last 3 days. I even went to a walk-in clinic yesterday, but they said they couldn't give me anything for helping me sleep, it has to be prescribed by my personal Dr. But last time I talked to my Dr and told him I would like something to help me sleep, kuz I knew this day was coming, but he wasn't willing to perscribr anything for helping me sleep. I went for a run today after work. I ran and walked about 2 1/2 miles. Felt good on my leg muscles. But 4 hours later that good feeling turned into restlessness. Soooo uncomfortable. I tried to use some OTC sleep aids and rls meds but they just made my RLS worse. And no matter how much OTC sleep aid I take or no matter how much flexeril, witch usually puts me on my ass, don't touch my insomnia or RLS. One more day of work this week, then 2 days off to rest up as much as possible.
 
Best of luck from someone who's been on Suboxone for over 7 yrs, and, one day may try the same exact route.
Please post(if or when you feel up to it!), what meds you would now use again or toss, that you've used to help urself detox. Thanks!
 
Just passed the 10 day mark since my last sub. Still haven't slept in days.....yeah, I been using the magnesium supps, not sire if there doing anything, but it doesn't seem to affect me in a neg way so I'll continue. But the products that made MY RLS/RAS (restless arm syndrome) worse was, tylonol PM, Excedrin PM, nyqul, and benadryl. Those products for me just intensified my restless symptoms. I've been using clonidine, that does help with the cold sweats, lopermide has been helping my stomach issues, but I needed to dose it at least 5x the recommend dosage. But just start low, and see how it works for you. One thing I will say is, don't try to take more and more OTC products to try to get some sleep. When I did that a couple times this week and times prior, it just made me very tired, but still unable to fall asleep. At least when I can't sleep at night I can find something to do to occupy my mind. Figure I'll be up all night anyways, better to be almost fully awake and functional instead of drowsy tired and dazed, and still not sleep. I also tried trazadon 3 pills, and that didn't do jack. Also took 3 atavans or the generic version witch were .5 mg and nothing. But a friend just called and said they have a seraquil (sp) so I'll give it a try tonight. But during the day, I feel pretty good. Not much symptoms, just sneezing, like 30-40 times a day, but I never ever sneeze in my regular life, I actually tend to like it, I know it may sound weird. Also tired pysically, but that's from lack of sleep. So during the day, I'm 90% good. At night its more like 15% good. I'll keep you guys posted. if anyone has any more questions feel free to ask I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Stay strong be strong
 
Keep going your doing great!! Nice work:D

You should sleep soon.. When I came of methadone/oxy/xan I didn't sleep for two weeks. I don't know many if any people that go much past 14 days wo sleep.

Another option for the RLS is neurontin or Lyrica. Its works really well for many people. If someone takes it for a couple weeks and then tappers off there is little chance of any problems developing from it.

Medications for opiate detox

NSFW:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal



In a little while you will feel much better... In less than a year you will feel great:D
 
Day 11, pretty much coming to and end. Last night was one of the best I've had since I started this journey. A friend of mine gave me a 100mg seraquil (sp). I cut it in half to make it last at least 2 days, but after taking the first half, I laid in bed until after 1am squirming with RLS. So I decided to take the second half. The last time I looked at the clock it was nearly 2am. Next thing I know I'm waking up at 10am. So I slept at least for 7+ hours, it felt soooooooo great.

I was awake for almost 5 days total, with micro sleeping, meaning I fall asleep for a couple minutes every couple hours, but wake right back up, basically getting no decent sleep. I was a bit groggy this morning, but it was so well worth it. I got some things done around the house that I been putting off, also went to the gym today. Oh I missed the gym so bad. I would consider myself a gym rat, well so would everyone else I know. 5' 11" 235ish, nick name OX by everyone I know. Was able to hit every muscle group for 4 exercises. Felt great, but not a ton of energy though, but that's to be expected. I weighed in today just under 225, so I lost a little over 10lbs. Hey, if that's the worst of my loses, I'll take that every day, kuz it'll come back in time.

Its the time I wasted on waiting to make my decision to jump off of opiates that can't get back. That's why everyone I ever talk to about pills/methadone/sub's I tell em straight up. Are you going to make it a short term experience or a life long commitment. Kuz you can't have both. I just wish I would've known what sub's could do and affect me like they did before I decided to start them. But since I can't go back in time, I can talk into the future with people thinging about taking sub's. There either great for short term use to end an opiate addiction or a life long tool to help keep you clean if opiates have too much control over you. And start low on your dosage.

I really think I could have stayed at 4mg my entire time, kuz I was only able to get enough subs until my guy got his next script, so I cut all my first strips in half and used 4mg for the first 2 weeks or so. And I was fine at that dose, no WD's at all, and my addiction to oxycodone was between 300 and 360mg daily.

But without the knowledge I have now, as soon as I started getting more sub's from my connections, my usage would go up to 8 to 16 mg daily, at time 32 mg a day, just trying to catch a buzz that never did come. But that was due to ignorance and stupidity. I should've done my homework prior to taking any kind of meds that I wasn't familiar with. So if your reading this and haven't been on sub's yet or just started, get your daily doses low, trust me, that's the best way.

When you decide to come off at some point, you'd be glad you kept your dosage low. Well that's enough rambling for now. Hopefully since I don't have any more of that seraquil I can get at least a couple hours or more of sleep tonight. If sleep continues to come by difficulty, I'll be making a Dr appt this week to see if he can write a one time script for it. Not sleeping is not only uncomfortable, but a danger to myself and everyone on the road with me. I have to work this week, we're so busy at work this week and I took off 4 days so far this year 2015. Using the excuse of having the flu. Well, have a great night to all of you....
 
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Day 13. I can say for the first time since I started, I feel great. Currently at work, (lunch break) and the day is flying by. Staying busy really makes a big difference. Yesterday my wife and I went in to see my personal doc. He is well aware of my pill/sub addiction. Since I was doing all of it by illegal means, there hasn't been much my doc could do for me. But yesterday we all had a sit down in his office and came to the collusion that I do need something to help me sleep.

My Dr. called in a script of ambien for me. He didn't want it to become another addiction so he only wrote the script for 14 10mg pills. Hoping that those 14 would get me through the next couple of weeks and give my body a chance to start the healing process and learn to produce the proper amount of natural chemicals that it takes to live normally again.

The one thing I can honestly say is that I never have lied to my doc about anything. I been totally open and honest with him. I think that is why he was will to help me out, as much as he could of coarse. But the ambien worked, they are only 10mg pills, not sure what other doses they come in, but I slept for s good 6/7 hours. And today since I woke up, I haven't had any other w/d symptoms. Its now time to keep my mind on track and remember what's important. Staying clean.
 
Way to go. Here is some information in case you find yourself facing some PAWS.

PAWS LINKS
Why We Don’t Get Better Immediately: Post-acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS)
Post Acute Withdrawal (PAW) Excerpted From “Staying Sober” By: Terence T. Gorski
Post-acute-withdrawal syndrome Wiki

Exercise and Brain Neurotransmission
Neurobiology of Exercise
Exercise 4 Health, Mental Health, and Addiction vs. I worked all that out
exercise and sleep

Chemicals and supplements to recover from opiate addiction
Diet & Neurogenesis


it is a powerful thing to keep our thoughts possitive and here are some threads many of us use to help us do this.
Managing depressive thinking
Good things about being off drugs/getting sober
Share something POSITIVE from your day!
Today I Am Thankful For... Ver. 3: Earth, Wind and Fire!

Here is the mindfulness thread.
Anhedonia MEGA Thread

Enjoy some sleep finally :)
 
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