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Starting dose Suboxone?

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scantraxx

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I have come across some of this and would like it seems if you tolerance to opiates is fairly low this can be a pretty good high. Now I have used hydrocodone a couple times, oxycodone several and codeine hundreds of times (it's the only thing I can get easily). Now I have been using codeine everyday or every second for a long time, I have been using around a gram (I realise people believe there is a ceiling effect but I am not too sure if I agree compleltly, anyway I'm not here to argue that, just thought I'd mention my knowledge of the ceiling effect so it doesn't turn into an arguement or something)

So going off the fact I have been using about a gram of codeine rather constantly, mostly with 75mg of promethazine, what dose would I be looking at with suboxone? I realise suboxone is ALOT stronger. I have seen that .5mg - 1mg are the most commonly suggested for no opiate tolerant.

So far I am thinking of having .5mg then waiting an hour then redosing .5mg if need be. Sound good?
 
Hi :)

I also disagree with codeine having a ceiling. That would depend on morphine being solely responsible for it's effects, but only 5-10% of codeine is converted to morphine and there is some evidence that other metabolites (primarily codeine-6-glucuronide) are responsible too. From personal experience 800mgs or a g gets me higher than 400mgs too. People vary hugely in their ability to metabolise codeine into morphine as well..

It's really difficult to convert from a full agonist to a partial agonist like buprenorphine so you are right to be cautious. There is a rough calculation but I can't find it right now.. so starting low is a good idea, although redosing after an hour is a bit premature IMO as buprenorphine is slow to build and very long lasting.
 
1mg buprenorphine (sublingual) = 32mg oxycodone (oral)

I'm sorry but I'm not terribly well versed in codeine as it's not OTC in the US. You can use that to find the equivalent dose of your codeine to oxy, and then there ya go.

Usually .25-.5mg for a beginner, however you're tolerant, so you may get best effects around 1-1.5mg (this is the "sweet spot" as you'll get the ups and downs instead of just being flat - you'll get what I mean when you use it for a while).

I don't mean to say to start with 1.5mg - I mean that you should take .5mg, wait an hour and see how ya are. Take another .5 if you're still "wanting", wait another hour, and I think you follow what I mean.

Good luck!
 
OP, you may very well know, but regardless, make sure to wait until your last opiate is completely clear from your system before you take Buprenorphine. If you do not wait (typically at least 24 hours; I wait 36-48 before taking full-agonist opioids again for full(er) effect) you will experience precipitated withdrawals. Hell.

Good luck!
 
^^That's not entirely true.

He may go into precipitated withdrawals if the amount of bupe he takes fills all his receptors, and that isn't enough to keep him from withdrawal. Saying he WILL experience that if he doesn't wait at least 24 only further fulls the myth, and people need to understand how, and why drugs work.

I see so much misinformation about Suboxone.

The OP should check out the suboxone mega thread:http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/615256-Suboxone-Buprenorphine-Mega-Thread-and-FAQ-v14.0
 
I fucked with Bupe a few times when I received a script one time I tried to quit Oxy. I was doing about 210mg of Oxy per day on average. When I got the Bupe was I told to start with a half pill (0.5mg) under the tongue every 6-7 hours, and then after 2 weeks I would have been taken down to 0.25mg (quarter pill).

I of course didn't stick with the plan to quit and ended up relapsing. As a result I started to snort the Bupe. I would snort 0.5mg at a time, and it provided a nice buzz even at my addiction level to pure Oxy. In the course of a day I maybe snorted 2-2.5mg of Bupe, and it kept me high for the day and not craving Oxy too badly.

I can't speak on the comparison to codeine cause I don't do codeine, but this is just my experience.
 
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