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Started Subutex 2 and a half days ago! HELP please!

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JamieG

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Hey there everyone! I just got put on Subutex and I started Sunday afternoon, Its tuesday night now. I was prescribed 8mg 2x's a day. But I am a little worried taking that much after doing some reading. I was taking 20-30mg of methadone a day and around 120-150mg of roxi's when I could come up with them.

Got tired of the same shit for 8 years and deceided its time to try something different. Tired of meeting up with the dealer, Hoping I do not run out. Making it to a very physical job everyday and performing up to par. Blah blah blah.

Anyways now to my question. I stopped taking methadone on Thursday and only took roxi's up till saturday night then sunday I made the jump to subutex after waiting like 18 hours. Had no Precip withdrawls, Thank god! But since starting I have been afraid to take my whole dose I have been taking only about 10mg a day. But I am feeling very tired and weak and been having very loose stools along with restless legs and waking up a bunch through the night.

Is this just a adjustment period? Is my body still withdrawling from the methadone? Is my dose to low and I need to go higher? Or maybe lower? Is this normal for it to take a few days to feel normal after taking subutex? Any and all help is appriciated!

PS: Sorry my grammer and punctuation sucks!

Thanks everyone in advance!

Jamie
 
Give it some time to adjust to the new medication. If you can use just 10mgs and see a brighter day ahead of you I'd stay with that. I was prescribed 8mg's of suboxone 3x a day for a couple years myself, and eventually you will come to realize that it doesn't take that much. The only up side to taking more bupe is that it increases your tolerance a lot, so relapsing on your DOC is very hard. I couldn't get high the whole time I was on suboxone, not even if I wanted too. If you think that this might be an issue than I suggest taking the full dose and working your way down along with some therapy.

The stomach issues associated with this medication are completely normal. Just stick to a normal regime of eating and you should feel a lot better. Try not to side track the things you need most, food/water, because you feel shity. You will just take that much longer to recoup.

Good luck.

-dp
 
Hey jamie.. that does sound pretty high.. why dont you try just stick with using 5mg 2x a day and see how it goes.. you can always go up and as you already know its alot harder to come back down.. the slight symptoms you are having will go away really quickly.. and if you ever want to become medication free you will have to travel this path back. I applaud the initiative you are taking with your recovery and the amount of medications you put in you body.. when you are ready you can get off these medications and live a very peaceful life. <3

EDIT: oh and i almost forgot.. welcome to BL, and to the recovery forums:D
 
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Thanks for the repleys guys, Worked a 12 hour day today and it kicked my ass "Work at a large tire company on the west coast and running is a must, real physical labor but thank god my boss is also my brother in law. So I can be completly honest with him. My back is killing me and I have never had back issue's either. Or maybe I have and I have always just been so self medicated I had no idea. I am going to try to up my dose for a few days just to see if it helps at all. I also have anxiety issue's, Should I avoid Benzo's? Was taking klonopin here and there so the anxiety and it helped alot and I feel it could be helping right now but im afraid to take it. Anyways I honestly appriciate your guys input and advice.

Jamie
 
I switched to 16mg/day of bupe from a 300mg/day oxy habit, and it took about a week or so for me to 'level out'... It kinda felt like not enough yet too much at the same time at first.

As for the Klonopin, it's generally not a good idea to mix opiates and benzos, but bupe doesn't cause nearly as much respiratory depression as full agonists (in my experience), and I think 8mg is the ceiling dose for that anyway (I think), so as long as you can keep from abusing the clonazepam it shouldn't be a problem...

That does sound like far too large a dose of bupe for the habit you describe though. I'd try to take only as much as you need to feel well once everything settles. Trust me, the longer you stay on a high dose, the harder it gets when you try to lower it... *Cough* :|
 
I'm on 16mgs of bupe and want to go down too.
I used between 6 and 10 OC 80s a day or enormous smoked amounts of tar.
for me the subs have been a wonder drug.
I havent used opiates since 2008.(I have smoked a lot of crack though).
but 16mgs is super expensive and I feel kinda drowsy a lot.in a opiate kinda way.

I dont know about you,OP,but weed has worked better for me than benzos.
 
Yea, I am feeling a little better each day, I wish I could utalize marijuana but I have random UA's at work. The pain pills they did not really care about as far as testing cause its hard to find some one in my industry who does not take some sort of a pain killer cause the job beats the crap out of you. I plan on keeping my dose at around 12-16mgs/day to start with then after 2-3 weeks going to 10-12mg/day and just progressivly lowering ever couple week as long as the craving are not to bad to where I consider using my DOC again. But I sure do miss catching a buzz. Not a drinker, Can't somoke pot "And I love me some weed". We will see how it goes. Definietly going to need alot of will power and support.

Again thanks guys for your experiences and input, Its nice to hear from people who are in the same boat as me. All my old friends are still using except a couple so I try to avoid them for a while till I feel I can control myself.

BTW, What does OP mean? Do I already have a nickname?
 
Hi Jamie,
I was taking around 30mg methadone and waited a couple of days before taking subs once. I thought I was having a stroke! It was a nightmare I wouldn't want to go through again. However, another time, I tried to just come straight off about the same amount of meth. After 5 days I caved in and took just 1 mg of subutex. I felt fine in about two minutes. Unfortunately I then got sucked into taking regular subs as I had to go to work. I never took more that 4mgs though, and just felt normal all the time. I'd been on subs for about ten years and then my husband got cancer. I was stressed and started on methadone again. After four months, and the death of my husband, I decided to stop again. The methadone always makes my legs swell, and I had a huge ulcer. The only way to get rid of it was sacking the meth, so I did. I've been two weeks now with nothing. I still can't sleep, am suicidal, cry all the time, can barely breathe sometimes, and had to get an invalid carriage to get round the supermarket, just for a bit of food, which I can't even eat. BUT my ulcer is healing! The pain from it was excrutiating during the first week of withdrawal, but it's eased now. I poured all my meth down the sink and took my husbands morphine to the chemist.
I just know that I have to take it one day at a time. There are even an hour or two each day when I feel close to OK. I'll be Ok eventually. I've done it before for years and I can do it again.
Anyway, sorry for talking about my problems. You'll be fine once you get the dose right, but it seems to me you've been prescribed far too much and have to find your own level. I suggest you drink plenty of water and exercise as much as you can. Please don't stay on the subs too long though. You need to think about what you want from life. Don't just waste half of it like I did. It's probably too late for me do do everything I wanted, but you sound young enough to have a chance.
 
Your a strong person Sue! Thank you for your repley. I am sorry about your husband and I am happy you replied. I know I can do it, Will be hard but it is possiable. Its been exactly 7 days and today I have only taken 4 mg's so far and feel fine. I think it was just a adjustment period. I am going to try to take only 8mgs/day from this point on since I seem to have adjusted to the subutex now. I really like this place and hope one day I am far enough into recovery that I can be a supportive member for people just tryin to get thier lifes straight.

Thanks again everyone!


Jamie
 
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