Spiritual Experiences On Different Substances

[theangryflower]

I’m a firm believer that experiencing different states of consciousness, whether induced by substances, meditation, breathwork or depriving yourself of things that bring you comfort and distract you from yourself, can bring about spiritual experiences.

I have a few, most from trauma, a few from psilocybin & a few from psychosis from amphetamines. I’ll share mine if you share yours.

 

[docpavor]

The one and only SPIRITUAL experience I had was while observing nature. Suddenly everything seemed to fall into place and for a moment I felt as if there really was something else beyond biology.

 

[JackARoe]

The one and only SPIRITUAL experience I had was while observing nature. Suddenly everything seemed to fall into place and for a moment I felt as if there really was something else beyond biology.

I may be as bold as to say it is only Nature that can give a feeling of connection to something bigger. My best moments are in nature. And if I take a psychedelic I can really feel connected, whole, cradled, a part of the Universe. And to me that is what God is.

I have a few, most from trauma, a few from psilocybin & a few from psychosis from amphetamines. I’ll share mine if you share yours.

Hmm, I know the question. But have to think about it a little before posting. I think in our material society today we can't distinguish between psychosis and a spiritual connection to the universe. Speak on anything like we are speaking now and most people just think we are crazy, whatever that means.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I may be as bold as to say it is only Nature that can give a feeling of connection to something bigger. My best moments are in nature. And if I take a psychedelic I can really feel connected, whole, cradled, a part of the Universe. And to me that is what God is.

I remember many, many years ago being found by my then mother-out-law while lying face down on her garden lawn in the rain around midnight.

"Err, are you ok YoungPartyFiend?"

" Yeah I'm fiiiiine thanks - I'm just merging with the earth"

She never mentioned it iirc.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I’m a firm believer that experiencing different states of consciousness, whether induced by substances, meditation, breathwork or depriving yourself of things that bring you comfort and distract you from yourself, can bring about spiritual experiences.

I have a few, most from trauma, a few from psilocybin & a few from psychosis from amphetamines. I’ll share mine if you share yours.

“Your expectation of something unique and dramatic, of some wonderful explosion, is merely hindering and delaying your Self Realization. You are not to expect an explosion, for the explosion has already happened - at the moment when you were born, when you realized yourself as Being-Knowing-Feeling. There is only one mistake you are making: you take the inner for the outer and the outer for the inner. What is in you, you take to be outside you and what is outside, you take to be in you. The mind and feelings are external, but you take them to be intimate. You believe the world to be objective, while it is entirely a projection of your psyche. That is the basic confusion and no new explosion will set it right! You have to think yourself out of it. There is no other way.”
― Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am That: Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

 

[speed-limper]

After my mom passed I went on a meth binge to even function, I didn't realize how deep it really hit. I spent nights mourning and crying while using and days at work or watching my son to give him normality. I felt like I was physically riding on Gods toes from the meth, dabs, and 7oh tablets. But I was still holding onto all the negativity from how she raised and abandoned me. After around 2 months of still not being okay, I completely broke down to my wife and explained how I thought my mother was stuck in a hellish purgatory, crying my eyes out and having my wife hide my mom's ashes.

I had an out of body experience, talking to my mother and grandfather. They explained how all the things they left behind, what I inherited, don't matter and focus on the growth of myself and my child. That I put too much energy into the bullshit around everything, and not the actual experience or memories.

I've had it happen before also, but I talked to my grandfather and my son, who's still alive, when using ketamine and meth.i had been using it as a modern day vision quest, like natives and other cultures used to do. It's crazy that it can work in that way,

 

[M1sterEd]

I question what is perceived as spiritual as opposed to a natural development of consciousness that cannot be explained. just because I don't know does not make it spiritual.

 

[Gridlink]

I've had my major spiritual experience when I had an NDE in the ICU after developing serotonin syndrome (my Dr at the time prescribed two antidepressants that didn't mix). I was in the Hall of Amenti from Egyptian mythology. Anubis was there, weighing my heart on the scale against the feather of Maat. When my heart was weighed, I relived each year of my life up until I was informed that I'd need to come back to the hall, as I was no longer dying. It was around that point that I woke up for the first time in three days.

I've also had a conversation with a deceased friend of mine. But I was completely sober when it happened. They showed up in my room while I was awake, we spoke for about 20 minutes. it was a very helpful conversation, emotionally, as I was having trouble dealing with their death. They told me it would be the only time they would speak to me, and then walked out the door. Obviously nobody was in the hallway when I ran to check!

 

[theangryflower]

Okay so sorry this is late. I must’ve wrote this stoned. So spiritual experiences:

1. Hallucinating demons on amphetamines- this was so real, my dogs heard it and my mom did as well. It made me believe in a higher power.

2. Accidentally took a heroic dose of mushrooms drunk after a traumatic incident. Thought I died and that all my friends were demons. When I came back to life- it was like a full factory reset.

3. Took mushrooms and my ego dissolved- it made me realize that even when nothing else is left we crave spiritual connection to our creator because that is all I remember warning for in my out of body state.

 

[theangryflower]

I question what is perceived as spiritual as opposed to a natural development of consciousness that cannot be explained. just because I don't know does not make it spiritual.

That’s true- but I think it’s a personal experience. Some may not interpret it as spiritual while others do.

 

[NullVoidXIII]

I spent the better part of 20 years in theological and occult research. I'm, what you might say, "touched," in that aspect. I had such kinds of experiences before I ever started drugs.

The part nobody ever explains to you about your shadow work is that it's important that you do it because it helps you learn that even the negative aspects come from inside you, they just come from a part of yourself you've yet to fully explore and understand. It's a bit like fumbling around in a cluttered closet in the dark...you smack into things and quickly realize you need a light on so you start trying to feel out where the lightswitch is.

Get the light on, that's the first step. Gotta see what you're working with. E.g. Acknowledgement, and Acceptance.
The next part is the part where you start reorganizing.
Well, you can't reorganize a mess in a messy area, so you have to compartmentalize, temporarily extracting things so that you have room and space to organize and put them back accordingly.

This is true both of your inner self but is also true of learning how to understand your trigger points better, learning what to avoid and what to welcome, and so on and so forth. The experience is different for everybody but the process is usually relatively around the same.

Drugs which introduce you to spiritual experiences are the tip of the iceberg.
You don't actually need them at all, you CAN do this sober, but it takes a lot of time and practice and developmental psychological and perhaps even physical endurance if you're the type to trust in Mind-Body Connectivity, which is essentially what Yoga is. And without Yoga specifically one can acquire that same state just by doing any other sorts of a physical workout. The destination is the same, the vehicle of which people take to get there is the part that can be freely different.

Just always remember to be safe during these things if you're taking drugs for it. Don't equate your dosage level to your experience because they are not the same. What matters is what you get out of the experience itself.

I'd say acid makes the experience a lot prettier for me, but I can't say that because acid makes everything a lot prettier for me.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

I spent the better part of 20 years in theological and occult research. I'm, what you might say, "touched," in that aspect. I had such kinds of experiences before I ever started drugs.

The part nobody ever explains to you about your shadow work is that it's important that you do it because it helps you learn that even the negative aspects come from inside you, they just come from a part of yourself you've yet to fully explore and understand. It's a bit like fumbling around in a cluttered closet in the dark...you smack into things and quickly realize you need a light on so you start trying to feel out where the lightswitch is.

Get the light on, that's the first step. Gotta see what you're working with. E.g. Acknowledgement, and Acceptance.
The next part is the part where you start reorganizing.
Well, you can't reorganize a mess in a messy area, so you have to compartmentalize, temporarily extracting things so that you have room and space to organize and put them back accordingly.

This is true both of your inner self but is also true of learning how to understand your trigger points better, learning what to avoid and what to welcome, and so on and so forth. The experience is different for everybody but the process is usually relatively around the same.

Drugs which introduce you to spiritual experiences are the tip of the iceberg.
You don't actually need them at all, you CAN do this sober, but it takes a lot of time and practice and developmental psychological and perhaps even physical endurance if you're the type to trust in Mind-Body Connectivity, which is essentially what Yoga is. And without Yoga specifically one can acquire that same state just by doing any other sorts of a physical workout. The destination is the same, the vehicle of which people take to get there is the part that can be freely different.

Just always remember to be safe during these things if you're taking drugs for it. Don't equate your dosage level to your experience because they are not the same. What matters is what you get out of the experience itself.

I'd say acid makes the experience a lot prettier for me, but I can't say that because acid makes everything a lot prettier for me.

May I use your post as testimony for psychedelics on my website?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Took mushrooms and my ego dissolved

"My Ego dissolved"
To use the word(s) "my" & "ego" you are still in a Duality state powered by Ego, this is a total contradiction.

Thought I died and that all my friends were demons. When I came back to life- it was like a full factory reset.

"Life and death are different names for the same fact, two sides of the same Maya (illusion). The true Self (Atman) is never born, never dies, and is beyond all conditions."
"Once you know that death happens to the body and not to you, you just watch your body falling off like a discarded garment."

"If you identify yourself with the body, you will feel that you are dying, but in reality there is no death because you are not the body."

"With death, the idea 'I am this body' dies. The witness does not."

"The real does not die, the unreal never lived."

"People are afraid to die, because they do not know what death is. The moment you know your real being, you are afraid of nothing. Death gives freedom and power. The happiness of being absolutely free is beyond description."

"In some cases death is the best cure. A life may be worse than death, which is rarely an unpleasent experience, whatever the appearances. Therefore, pity the living, never the dead."

"I am told I was born. I do not remember.
I am told I shall die. I do not expect it."

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Dying is like living only different

 

[NullVoidXIII]

May I use your post as testimony for psychedelics on my website?

Yes, that's fine.