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Spice Gold - Inexperienced - Reshaping the Legal High Landscape

Ive had some conversations with vendors selling these smokes online and I can guarantee there are ingredient/s that may be illegal in some countries

unfortunately the one I mentioned above 'Sense' when going from NZ to Australia has been intercepted and destroyed (I wasnt invovled tho)

new zealand and UK seem to be the places pumping these borderline gear out
 
I assume that their feeling is based upon the addition of synthetics, not on any real understanding of the chemistry of what's been added. There has been a lot of looking into this and there's no indication of any cannabinoids bearing similarity to those contained in cannabis (ie: no tetrahydrocannabinols), though I'm not aware of anyone who's looked for and not found JWH-O81-style alkaloids.

Only the tetrahydrocannabinols and their analogues are covered under US and (AFAIK) international law. The pyridine and indolic cannabinoids like JWH-018/81 are entirely legal, and considering the relative ease (and the familiarity most of these places have with indole chemistry from tryptamine syntheses) of synthesis, they seem most likely.
 
actually in the broken coded undertones of the messy email conversations the plant Psychotria carthaginensis came up, funnily enough these contain tryptamine! Im not sure if this was regarding just one of the blends they had not spice gold, but he said it probably wouldnt get through to Aus either
 
pschotria carthaginensis is another one of those harmaline-containing plants, I assume, like psychotria viridis, so it's not really any wonder that they'd contain tryptamine.

tryptamine itself is inactive.
 
even DMT....8o

that seems to be why there are regs on the above plant

but I dont suppose the effects are DMT like
 
no, DMT is absolutely not in the product (or if it is, it's present in absolutely miniscule quantities), it produces effects that aren't remotely in the same universe as spice's
 
Why not just smoke weed or dagga flower or pedicularis extract?

At least then you have a much better idea of what you are smoking. I'm not saying these new smoking blends are bad (I quite enjoyed my trials with spice gold), but I just have a moral issue ingesting unknown random substances' and will be persueing no more trials until all ingredients are disclosed:!
 
The moral issue seems to lie with unscrupulous vendors, not with trials :)

I get drug tested (or at least I'm supposed to, and if I am eventually, I don't want my suboxone doc to be pissed with me, since he never even said a word after I ran out of my pills in 15 instead of 30 days, after I doubled my dose without asking him), so weed should be out of the picture. It is at times, then it comes back, then it goes out. And I've had both of the other two and they don't remotely compare.
 
man.. does spice gold make your pipe stink like rancid salmon oil? it smells like vanilla, but the ash is stink. is this normal or just my pipe?

but this stuff is real. and it's so much like weed that sometimes I'll forget that I actually smoked spice gold when i'm really high.

it is a lot more sedating than weed, which is all that keeps it from completely replacing weed with spice gold. i have not been able to resist the urge to sleep after the peak ends. i was gonna write my own trip report, but there's already great information in this thread.
 
Does this stuff just get you "stoned," or does it have some of the "trippy" properties of pot?
 
mostly just stoned. I've found that using a bong really helps amplify the high and the more trippy effects.
 
just got a pack of this stuff, made a 50/50 mix with an 'algerian' smoking mix (which is weak as but can feel a bit of a chill out) smoked a cone and am dead set stoned, it works

Red eye just stoned feeling around the eyes :P sedated but yeh a strong cone of hydro would be a bit more mentally distorting/trippy but t+5mins effects start creaping nicely. I havent smoked pot for a couple of months but id say Id be a bit more bent off some strong real stuff but im pretty happy with this gear, couldnt ask for more in a 'legal' high, but fk theres a cannabinoid of some description in there lol :)
 
may have been said earlier but on pulling a cone you dont get the head rush like from pot, much less of a hit, but its a really creep on you stoning/sedation

I think it might be even more muscle relaxing than pot also, hard to get the muscles moving the next day :P
 
Yeah, that definitely seems to be true.

I'd try using a bong- that's the best way to consistently get a strong buzz
 
^you would have to know all the ingredients to say that for sure. Home drug tests are pretty cheap at walgreens...
 
I wasted two of the more expensive piss tests (not available in stores. I faked a testing company to get a supply of these for myself and friends).

Not the slightest hint of a positive.
 
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