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gospeedgo

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I've been taking speed for around a year so far on and off, and I was wondering a few questions...

a) pre/post rolling with 5HTP, vit b complex ect ect will that make my roll better? like i thought 5HTP was to do with pills, but do u get seretonin depletion with speed too?

b) any good ways to be less scattered after a night on the go? i always get scattered :(

c) is it just me? but i'm not a big pill fan, i've had a buddah in the past, and i got really smacked out, and couldn't really dance, needed to sit down, and just nod my head.. i got really hot quick.. felt uncomfortable :( should i take a red 3 this weekend, or what is a good pill for a person like me to take? half or full?! even quarter?

thanks ;0
 
Speed on its own doesnt afffect your serotonin, so taking 5-HTP isnt going to change its affect on you. Methampetamine tends to be bit euphoric but I think that is caused by dopamine rather than serotonin(?)

Also, speed should not make you 'scattered' on a come down. Tired and a bit worn out perhaps but not scattered.

If you dont like the affects of pills then you shouldnt take pills. While there are certainly speed based pills available, i am generally against them on the basis that people who want speedy effects should use speed, people who buy speedy pills create a market for shit pills that those of us who DO like the affects dont want.
 
5htp won't help much, as said.

For a meth comedown, there are some things you can take, generally I like:

-alpha lipoic acid
-selenium
-vitamin C
-multivitamin
-Deprenyl (selegiline) -- if you can get it, as it is prescritpion only
-lots of protein for the next couple days
-lots of water
-some benzos, barbs, or GHB

I know plenty of people who don't like MDMA much but love speed. Different strokes for different folks.
 
l-tyrosine is supposed to be good for coming down, I'm pretty sure it's the body's precursor to dopamine.
Unlike 5-htp with ecstacy, l-tyrosine won't make speed work better and prevent tolerance as dopamine is naturaslly replenished quite fast, There is no point preloading, you just want to take it when you have speed.
I've heard mixed reports though, some people say it works great, others say it didnt't do shit.
I haven't tried it as I have no need. Denial worked wonders for my comedowns, they doon't exist anymore.
 
Getting back to the 3's - you'll prob find that they are orange 3's not red. There are heaps of posts about em at pillreports. We went out on em last weekend and a few ppl i know who do pills fairly regularly were pretty screwed off one. Soi suggest if u did take some - take half then take the other half when u begin to peak. Nothing worse than taking too much and having to sit down through a night of intense dancing.

Nice Tits
 
The Buddhas put me on my ass for a large portion of the night too... but I loved it. God they were strong. I think people like yourself who really just want to dance and have energy should stick to speed. If you're not in it for the 'loved up-ness', speed is much cleaner and more of an adrenaline-pumping high.
Leave the pills for those of us who love hugging in puddles on the floor ;) hehe :D
 
gospeedgo said:

b) any good ways to be less scattered after a night on the go? i always get scattered :(
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EAT. Force yourself to eat something if you have to - before you go to bed. And drink heaps of water/ juice/ sports drinks to replenish all the fluid you've lost. That 'scatterdness' is usually the result of lack of sleep and nutrients, plus dopamine depletion. Food and rest helps immensely.
 
Yeah, i find that forcinig myself to eat something, even something small, and just doing this several times thorughout the day, makes a huge difference to how you feel over the next couple of days.
 
When your body needs magnesium and you haven't supplemented it by eating properly, it will take it from your muscles. If you're feeling tight and sore in the muscles, particularly in the shoulders and back, this is quite often the reason.
Poor diet, dehydration and a lack of food at this crucial time will leave you feeling more scattered than you normally would, if you had prepared.
Then you follow it up with another night. Little preparation and short recoveries will leave you really, really scattered.
But...being scattered after the event when you know you can relax with friends for the rest of the day (who are just as scattered) can be really fun. Crazy converations, a few beers, snacking with the prospect of sleep that evening is priceless!
 
so.. mdma reduces seritonin levels and replaces it with dopemine, which is bad... but speed uses up dopemine?

ah so confused?!
 
Buy a juicer, they are much easier to consume/drink, and you can make up juices with veggies, and fruits.... my fave juice when I comedown is ginger, lime, orange, carrot, celery, watermelons, beetroot and few leaves of fresh mint. The beetroot part may sound and make the juice look gross, but trust me, it does make you feel a lot better, just peel the fresh small beetroot. The mint helps upset stomaches, tight stomaches, and ginger is very refreshing taste, to mask the beetroot.

Juicers are great for people who find hard to eat when they had a big nights/weekends, its easier to drink than eat for those scattered people sometimes.
 
gospeedgo said:
so.. mdma reduces seritonin levels and replaces it with dopemine, which is bad... but speed uses up dopemine?

ah so confused?!
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No... dopamine isn't "bad". It's also a "pleasure chemical". It doesn't produce the lovey feelings like seratonin, but it does give a sense of wellbeing and elation. You should do a search to learn more.
 
MDMA depleted your body's supply of Serotonin (5-HT). 5-HTP is precursor to 5-HT, which means that when you deplete your body's supply of it, it will try to metabolize 5-HTP into 5-HTP. The idea behind taking 5-HTP is to ensure your body has the necessary precursors to create more 5-HT when it is needed. However you cannot force your body to make more 5-HT just by taking 5-HTP, your body has a natural regeneration rate, and it will usually take up to a week to get anywhere back to normal. Over frequent use this will take longer amd you will not regenerate as much, basically because you are screwing with your body and it cannot compensate sufficiently.

Its also important to note that 5-HT cannot cross the blood/brain barrier so taking straight 5-HT will not help.

Dopamine is an entirely separate chemical, which has been linked to eating chocolate and sex. Unlike serotonin it regenerates rather quickly but its affects are not so pronounced
 
nothing. In the same way you cannot force your body to produce more 5-HTP, you cannot force it to produce more dopamine just by having the precursors available. Your body naturally tries to reach a chemically balanced state, but it does it slowly and sharp decreases in anything usually take a while for things to return to normal.

On a side note, dopamine is not what gives you energy, that comes from adrenalin.
 
Negro-kitty said:
Actually, from norepinephrine (nor adrenaline). Which is related to adrenaline.
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i'm not sure but i think i saw something TV about some guy who reckons that norepinephrine thing plays a big part in anorexia or something ??
 
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