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Dr. JK

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I have been using the EZ-test for a while now. Some of my reactions are orange/brown indicating speed. But some of the pills have a mild MDMA feeling.
My question is:
What coloiur would the reaction turn to if there was both speed & MDMA? Does the ratio of content matter?

I would appreciate some insight on this
Thanks,
Dr. JK
 
the MDxx reaction should always over power the speed reaction, even if there is only one milligram present. Sometimes you might be able to see a flash of orange during the reaction, but not always.

Mild MDMA feelings? How so? Often I find good meth generates feelings somewhat like MDMA.
 
MDMA feelings?

Thanks Johny for replying. The so called MDMA feelings I experience with some pills which test positive for speed resemble MDMA in the way they change my mood (put me in a good mood), sense of well being and a bit stoney or high. I have had other pills which test for speed but did nothing for me. That is why I wonder is there any MDMA in some of these and what else can be in them that makes them different from other speed pills.

I agree with you that good meth can give you similar feelings so I am not sure what it is exactly.

What can you say about the pill s which test for speed but do nothing for me?? (Poor quality of speed?)

Appreciate the feedback

Dr. JK
 
amphetamine or meth can produce an euphoric feeling, which can be mistaken for mdma. I have seen many people take speed where they thought it was xtc. That is why we came out with EZ test. The test results will show pretty much what's in there. An orange color indicates speed. MDMA will go black.
There are many factors that influence the effect of a drug, such as: your initial mood, the racemic mixture, overall quality of the substance and the place where you took it.
 
Reaction colour if..

Yes, but my question still remains what will the reaction colour be if there is both speed & MDMA? For example a pill of 170mg, contains 120mg of speed, 10mg of MDMA & 40mg of filler?

Will it go orange cause of the heavy speed content?
 
most likely the mdma colorization will override the speed colorization since it is a darker color. only VERY poorly mixed substances will be separable with the eye. it is always a little difficult to talk about these things in the blind; maybe you have a pic of the reaction?
 
I don't have any pictures, but I can tell you the reactions were always the same, first orange then within 5sec to dark brown.

This should be a straight forward answer to the EZ-test makers/promoters. They must have encountered the substance mixes and associated reactions.
 
when a pill has been mixed with mdma and speed (amphetamine) only eztest xtreme can prove this undisputedly. When you do only ez test marquis mixed pills cannot be detected. any untypical reaction should be viewed with suspicion. maybe you can send the pill to a lab for a test?
 
easy e,

I did the test the pill with EZ-supreme and the 2 nd reaction was blue. So what does that tell me Methaphetamine or MDMX??

I am not new to testing nor to e.
Where are the moderators and EZ-test experts?
 
I am from EZ test, maybe one of the moderaters can change that for me?
the second test is to see whether a secondary amine is present. could be both meth and mdma. how long does the color stay orange? is it just a flash or does it linger on? my guess is that it is just mdma, but until you do a test with robadope you can't say for sure that there is no primary amine present, i.e. speed.
where did you get the pill?
 
The 1st pill tests orange to brown within 5sec. It's definitely orange to start and then darker to brown.

With the 1st test (I forgot the name) no reaction, as expected. Since youa re from EZ-test, then you know that both Meth & MDMA will not react with this reagent. When I test it with the 2nd reagent (looking for 2nd amine) the reaction is blue, as expected.

Now this tells me that I don't have Aphetamine present due to the 2nd amine and it's not MDA for the same reason.

So I have either MDMA/MDME or Meth-aphetamine. I know there is meth in it, cause of the effects which start within 20min and are "speedy. They only thing is that after a while I do get a bit high/stoney, definitely the feel good talkative effects which can be associated with both meth & MDMA. If there is MDMA it is small dose.

Now the 2nd pill tests the same but the effects are not the same, i.e. as much feel good and talkative. Is that due to the quality of the meth, i.e. poorer quality then the pill above or is it cause there is no MDMX substance to enhance the effects??

I do meth (snort) and know that it's effects are similar to the 1st pill.

Can you relate to this? Have you (EZ-test techs) done any tests on pilss containing both meth & MDMX substances and what are the findings? Would a low dose of MDMX (10mg) be detected in a pill containing mostly meth?

I am assuming that these kind of tests were conducted to verify the reactions?!
 
Have you ever taken adderal or straight meth before???

I(and many others) find that

1.A medium dose of meth feels alot like a low dose of MDMA (increased euphoria and sociablity, with out the sensory effects or strong inhibition lowering... maybe half the empathy.)

2. A large dose of meth and a large dose of MDMA feel nothing alike..(aside from the somatic effects)..

Most likely(as your tests showed) your pill had 30 or 40mg of meth in it, and thats all..

BTW 120mg of meth or straight speed would be way too much. 10mg of MDMA alone, or excpeicially combined with a dose of speed would be undetecable. As said speed is a weak reaction, and MDMA/MDA is a strong reaction, so if there were any MDMA in that pill, it wouldve shown..

I would reccomend trying some adderal and youll probably recognize the same high... I myself get pretty empathetic on speed, much more than coke.
 
"when a pill has been mixed with mdma and speed (amphetamine) only eztest xtreme can prove this undisputedly. "

True, but I found out a bean that had amphetamines and MDMA in it with the basic test..The reaction was red at first, then turned purple like 25 seconds later..Very sketchy I know, and depends on the conditions you test, but after I dropped the bean, the results definitely coincided with the test results..I had tested these orange e's twice, and had similar reactions both times..Granted, I didn't know whether it would be meth or ampetamines in it, but after I started speeding like crazy in 30 mins, and it came down an hour later, I figured it was amphetamines..About an hour after that, the MDMA finally started to kick in..Good strong punch, although not a bean you would consider an amazing MDMA trip..Two would have been powerful as hell though..The moral? Ez kits really help, but cannot always answer all your questions directly lol..I had to use some guesswork and hope it indeed have both psychoactives..
 
Silver,
yes I do meth almost regularly and agree with what you are saying. Personally I like meth way more then aphetamine.

Aphetamine just gives me a head buzz.

Since the effects between the 2 beans I tested vary (one better then the other), but at the same time the reaction was the same, I would assume that one contained aphetamine and the other meth. What do you think?.

In any case How much MDMX (mg's/pill) do you need for the tester to detect it? Also how much MDMA do you need to feel the effects?

Thanks,
Peace


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Let me some up here for those that still have questions.


Generally, when speed and MDMA are mixed you cannot tell:
1. The fact that there is speed in there. The MDMA reaction will overide the speed reaction.
2. The amount of MDMA that may be present in your sample or any ratio of active to filler ingredients.

The Extreme kit may help you, it is not the be-all-I-can-be kit but it helps. It may help in the following circumstance:
1. Your pill is MDMA/amphetamine. Both Simons and Robadope will reaction. However this may also mean that your pill is: MDMA/PMA or MDMA/MDA or MDA/Methamphetamine. The main value of the Robadope test is to show that there is something else there. It may not be PMA but the fact that you get a reaction brings your chances of getting it from nothing, to something (however small that chance is).

It will not help if you your pill is MDMA/Methamphetamine. The MDMA reaction will overide the speed reaction.

As pointed out - with poorly mixed or crushed and repressed pill mixtures of Speed and MDMA may be able to be seen but this is highly unlikely.

If you are getting an orange/brown reaction only and still get an MDMA type feeling it is highly likely you are mixing up the physical speed high with a MDMA high. It is easy to do, some of the brain chemicals used are the same.

Still unsure? Your tester may be past its prime, either due to poor storage, contamination or just plain age. Get yourself a new tester.
 
What does that mean again?

Hmm...anyone out there can help me with this problem again?
I want to know that how can i conclude this pill?

Marq: bright orange
Simon: light blue (not as bright)
Rod: no reaction

Does this mean that the pill is shitty?
someone please help me.... Thank you very much
 
Marquis = orange. Your instruction booklet that came with your tester should clearly state this is a speed like substance.

Considering Simon's turned blue it is a good bet you have a methamphetamine pill. If Simon's did not react and yet Robadope did then you would have an amphetamine pill.
 
Just to clear things up...

The Marquis will detect just a few mg of MDMA.. I'm assuming MDMA sets off a chain reaction, so even if there is only one milligram, itll turn all the liquid black.

100-120mg of MDMA are uaully required for full effects.

Anything under 30mg you will not feel

Id say 30-50 would be so light, it could probably be confused with placebo.. Ive taken a pill with 50-70mg(on several occasions) and wondered if it was still a placebo.. MDMA in small doses is very subtle.. It isnt until the 80-100mg range that the effects are apparent enough to know they arent placebo...

120-150mg will be a strong dose and floor most people.. 150mg would be uncomfortable for many.
 
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