Stimulants Speed and ice melted as one

[Skynet9000]

I had been wondering for a while what it would be like to get speed and ice and melt it down as one then smoke. So recently I tried that.
I put just a little bit over half a point of ice slightly melted it then put the same amount of speed and melted it as one. It melted fine but the colour was a creamy white with the slightest tinge of brown.
When I finished smoking it I noticed I became extremely fried to a state I've never been before, I couldn't speak properly, my pupils were of course massive but one eye lid was drooping massively and the other was wide open.
The feeling was just so not what I was expecting at all,
So I was wondering if anyone could explain to me what happened and if it's a thing you shouldn't do as it seemed like it.

I am a moderate smoke of ice at least 2 days a week and have been for 2 years now.
The speed I got when I was at a friends house and it was a liquidly paste sort of thing which he uses for iv.

 

[change-jug]

Hi there! Welcome to Bluelight!
(I like your Terminator reference)
I`m not sure where you are located,but do you mind not using street slang? Different people from different countries/states/cities/towns/parts of the world may be confused as to what You mean when you say "ice" and "speed". To some,those are 2 different drugs but to others they`re just 2 names for the same thing.

Basically,what you`re saying is that you mixed methamphetamine with amphetamine or dextroamphetamine?
From what you described it sounds like you may have taken too much and overdosed.

 

[PsychedelicHaze]

He probably means amph and meth.

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

Dex+meth or something similar? Unless you had a lab test you probably don't know exactly what you got, so it could have been a RC in there for all we know. Either way, yeah, sounds like you OD'ed! Careful!

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

You overdid it. And like others have said, please don't use slang like that. This is a global forum, with people from all over the place where the slang is totally different.

 

[Skynet9000]

Okay thank you I thought it might of been an od but it's seems like it's a very fine line between good and bad. I ment meth and 4mar (I know that's kinda slang soz)
yeh even after wards I noticed I was having really bad head ace and almost passed out when walking home then I got a phone call an after that It felt like all my blood was rushing thru my body and my heart started beating and I was normal after that :/
i had just assumed it was the meth as I wasn't use to it
thanks all I reckon I'm gonna have a break from it all

 

[sekio]

Do people even still make/sell 4-MAR? The synthesis involves large amounts of essentially, cyanide... so I would put money on it being meth, if your only tests have been bioassays indicative of a strong stimulant.

 

[spacejunk]

^ Melbourne (and possibly other Australian capital cities) have a small 4-MAR market.
While those who even know what it is would probably pay extra for it, it seems to be either exclusively used by a small group of people, while the batches seem to be sold as methamphetamine somewhat rarely, but relatively consistently.

I would hazard a guess and say that it is imported from Asia - but i have no idea about its place of manufacture.

The quality of Aussie meth is so varied (generally differing levels shittiness, with the occasional pure import - at least when I was connected to the meth world) that many Aussie meth heads scored 4-MAR and figured they got some good - or better - gear for once.

That's kinda speculative, but there is a bit of scepticism in some circles that it is 4-MAR at all.
The Bluelighters I've known that have bought (and Reagent tested) 4-MAR consider it to be a treat to score (in place of the methamphetamine)- though I suspect those in the know were sold 4-MAR knowingly (I haven't actually re-read the thread I linked to)
Most users probably didnt even question what it was - it works, it lasted for ages (but in a multi-day binge, who can really be sure?) and that's enough .
The general meth-buying public in Australia is large and has a pretty unsophisticated knowledge of what they are taking (ie meth is sold in 3 or 4 different forms, and most users and dealers under the impression that they are different types of amphetamine, when they are merely methamphetamine of varying purity/competence (or otherwise) of the 'cook' ie 'shard', 'speed', 'base','smokable speed' (jesus) etc etc
4-MAR? What's that?

Personally, i've never come across it.