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Was wondering what the drug scene was like in the South Pacific (sub tropical islands of Oceana like French Polynesia, Cook Islands, Fiji, Nauru, Solomon Islands, Fiji, New Caledonia, Niue, Tonga, Tokeleau, Western Samoa, American Samoa, ect...) The only info I found was from the US DEA about American Samoa- It mentioned cannabis and methamphetamines as drugs of abuse.
 
I have no idea, but I find the idea of you using the DEA to find info about the availability of drugs immensely amusing :p
 
The DEA has info about kratom listed on its website even though its not yet scheduled in the US. My theory is the swine are pissed that one of the drugs they emergency scheduled wasn't scheduled permanently by congress ( a first in the history of the agency.)=D They are probably listing kratom so American kids will buy it online and cause a panic in suburban America so that the DEA can extort more money out of the people to fight its expensive war on drugs. At any rate overviews of any of the places I have mentioned would be appreciated.
 
Its all Kava Kava over there. Becareful playing with drugs in asia. Might end up in front of a fireing squad or forever behind bars you know.
 
Becareful playing with drugs in asia. Might end up in front of a fireing squad or forever behind bars you know.
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Good advice! However I'm not planning on playing with drugs anywhere on this planet. I can see the Kava scene being big over there, but please correct me if I'm wrong, I dont believe the region I mentioned is part of Asia. I would think think that these Islands are a world apart culturally and politically from the authoritarian countries throughout Asia. Tahiti, for instance, is French soil every bit as much as Lyon or Marseille if I'm not mistaken so I would think penalties for possession, traffic, ect... would be similar. I would think that other drugs, cannabis at the very least are available. Not looking for info on Australia, New Zeland, Indonesia which have alot written about drug scenes ect. I know that Papua New Guinea has alot of cannabis atleast. Not much info I could find on internet about the other countries/ territories I mentioned.
 
Here is an article about drugs in Samoa (Independent State of Samoa):

http://www.samoaobserver.ws/index.p...olice-probe-drugs&catid=50:headline&Itemid=62

So we've established there are drugs in Samoa but the meth comes from New Zeland in Western Samoa and is called "P" while the Meth in American Samoa comes from Mexico and the US mailaind via Hawaii and is called "ice" by the locals.

This article comes courtesy of the DEA:

http://www.shaps.hawaii.edu/drugs/dea04012/dea04012.html

One thing it mentions is Palau and cannabis cultivation. I think there was talk of legalising some time ago.

"small undermanned forces with obsolete equipment and inadequate drug control laws passed by the local legislatures."

Sounds like the makings for a drug paradise for you drug tourists out there.
Gotta wonder what the pharmacy scene is like on some of these islands.
 
farkin scary thought - a 160kg Samoan tweaking out on shards!!!
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Horrifying!!!

WOWZERS!!! Naw... I though they were gone on that YABA over there... The thai people and shit... Yaba... thats got em going. meth pills...
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The Yaa Baa is big in Thailand. Not so sure about sizable thai expatriate community in Samoa. But anyway a good (fragment) of a book from google books about Yaa Baa in Thailand:

http://books.google.com/books?id=HJby3cGSEjoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=yaa+baa#PPP1,M1

Spoke with my friend last night who spent several months in Tahiti over a year ago. He said that weed's the big drug out there but its hard to find unless you get to know some of the locals. Sounds like its considered a hard drug. He said people there are down on mushrooms, locals consider it a drug that will make you completely lose your mind. Nothing even close to an open air drug scene.
Didn't hear or see any meth (and he would know-- he used to be a hard core tweaker.) However I came accross a recent article regarding a meth haul in Tahiti of liquid meth from Mexico that seems to have caused a local stir.
 
After doing some research it would appear that Palau, the Tuamotus, and the Republic of kiritibati are good candidates for good drug tourists destinations so far.
 
Most of the South Pacific is very religious and family driven. Drug use is illegal and carries serious penalties. Unless you're family or well looked after I'd suggest you don't bother as a white dude in trouble is big news!
 
Yeah hear there is a lot of meth over there and the result of big islanders being fucked up from the meth is that I think quite a few women are raped over there due to big fuckers that have lost their minds due to meth and everyone who has done meth knows that it makes you super horny. Pretty sad actually, meth should never have reached places like that. If anything id rather see big islanders on acid having a good ol time. I know theres a fair bit of weed over there due to mates that have been to hotels over there and security guards sell weed for the resorts. I think theres pills in some of the clubs over there but I wouldnt do any drugs over there whatsoever. In fact Australia and europe would be the only places in the world id do any drugs, its just too scary anywhere else, fuck getting your head chopped off, or in the firing squad or even just life in jail all over drugs, its just not worth it.

Plus I dont take holidays to get messed up, I take them to learn about culture, maybe surf, meet people and chill out, apart from when I was in Amsterdam drugs are the last thing that'd be on my mind.
 
^Imho it is pretty ignorant to say "meth should never have reached places like that," why do you believe you should have right to use meth but "big islanders" should not? You are aware that not only "big islanders" can be rapists and plenty of small westerners are rapists too, both on meth and straight.
 
Yea, Meth definately seems to be a pervasive drug throughout the pacific islands, on both sides of the eqautor.

Buds have a long and well established history in this region. I'm sure there use doesn't carry the same reprecussions it does in say Thailand or Indonesia ( to use an example) for the most part.

I currently don't plan to visit the region anytime soon. Currently not using drugs so food, culture, surfing, and groving on new sights and sounds would be foremost if I had a trip planned. However, I am interested in learning about what the drug scene, either underground or in the open is like, societal attitudes, ect... That info is just not well documented in contrast to most other regions of the world for some reason.:|

I have a feeling that you do have the potential for significant variability with respect to various aspects of the drug scenes for several reasons. Your dealing with many seperate national or territorial governments. There may be many differences between different islands of the same country or territory. Your dealing with three great but culturally distinct peoples: the Polynesians, Melanesians, and Micronesians. Isolation and the strong influence of European cultures where they occur might result in further differences. So, for instance, the penalties in Fiji or Tonga might be more serious than Raratonga. Or the preference for meth might be greater in the American Samoa but residents of Vanuatu prefer Xanax for the sake of argument.

On the bright side, I have yet to see an episode of locked up abroad Tahiti yet. Not saying foreigners don't get incarcerated or that a stay in a prison in the region wouldn't be unpleasant- undoubtedly so on both counts. But this highlights, again, the negligible amount of attention this region gets in the media. The narcoswine mostly only mention the region in terms of transhipment points and money laundering.

From another thread someone mentioned New Caledonia as a tolerant place for cannabis. %) The Republic of Palau is apparently a tolerant place, again for cannabis, from what I've read. %)Tarawa might have a laid back attitude for soft drugs from info I gained anecdotally as in people smoke buds in the open in the streets but I can't substantiate. :\

Only familiar with the term "Big Islanders' as it applies to residents of the Big Island of Hawaii. What do you mean by big islander Ketaman if I may ask?
 
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If you're in Vanuata, try the Kava. Don't bother going and getting it from the bars, you're likely to get bacterial poisoning from the water it's mixed with. You can now get instant Kava that's in a powder form at many shops in the tourist district of Port Vila.

In Fiji I've heard people can get locked up in the mental hospital for using cannabis. Now think of the consequences of meeting people in that place!
 
I'd get the most up-to-date skinny on any of these islands before conducting any drug tourism there. I agree with jspun -- the scene is going to vary SUBSTANTIALLY between islands, even between ones that are within sight of each other. Culturally, the Pacific is a galaxy, in every way. Don't ever forget this. It's not at all inconceivable to visit one island where every joybean under the sun is shoved in your face the minute you get off the plane, and then kayak over to a neighboring island where you're promptly sentenced to years in prison for the traces of cannabinoids in your sweat. Spend a lot of time on the Lonely Planet Thorntree forums, discretely finding long timers of these islands who'll PM you up to date information on the drug scene where they are.

Don't expect anything, drugs or otherwise, to be cheap.

Just because the locals are into it, doesn't mean they'll sell it to you or do it with you.

These are sparsely populated places where everyone has known everyone else for generations. In other words, not the easiest places to lay low as an outsider passing through. You're never far removed from someone who could take you down if he didn't like the cut of your jib.

That said, I hear the Kava is excellent and legal (again, check up to date, ISLAND-SPECIFIC law!) in many parts of the Pacific. I like that drug enough to be satisfied with just that, during a stay in that part of the world.
 
yeah some of the ice we get here is 'supposedly' from fiji which is extremely top gear! see through glass like rocks! as in potent you dont need much, like a quarter gram could last a good session without the need of more heh..

some of my samoan mates tell me the weed in samoa is crap and never bud too well so rely on weed from elsewhere and the drug culture is very different in the islands if not 'taboo', so is kept quite underground with not much talk of mdma, heroin etc. However different story here especially south auckland and the amount of 'p' cooks, no different to here and some of the nasty nice cheap backyard 'p' I get from porirua/wellington lol..
 
I can tell you that New Caledonia is awash with Cannabis. The indigenous youth have culturally appropriated Bob Marley's and Jamaican popular culture legacy from the 70's. Walk through the streets of Noumea today and I guarantee you that you'll see rastas, wearing Reggae/Bob Marley shirts. It's not just the indigenous folk that smoke weed, most of New Caledonia's have tried or use Cannabis.

A high majority of the Cannabis available is from an island, Ouvea - where it's everywhere.

It's all naturally grown, no hydro skunk.

Kava bars are legal (Nakamals) but by far the most popular drug is alcohol.
 
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^Imho it is pretty ignorant to say "meth should never have reached places like that," why do you believe you should have right to use meth but "big islanders" should not? You are aware that not only "big islanders" can be rapists and plenty of small westerners are rapists too, both on meth and straight.
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I'd agree, samoan's and tongan's are very family driven and generally nice people, i mean hell you dont wanna get on their bad side - but as a true generalization on the general south pacific islander public groups, they're nice people, easy to get along with and pretty happy to offer anyone they know a free meal.

I lived in NZ for a long time, and as a result i also went to a school which had an 80% samoan student population. I got in maybe 2 fights the whole time i was there - and no one ever held a grudge. Maori's on the other hand are a very warlike people, and seem to enjoy conflict. People tend to bunch all these people in the same lot, but like all race's and creeds, there are good and bad in everyone.
 
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