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Misc Soma for sleeping better than benzo

Not Again

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I told my Dr that I was tapering off the oxy and I was having a hard time sleeping and didn't want to take an addicting benzo anymore ( I stopped a few days ago), so he gave me soma.

Is this a good sleep agent? Is it better than a benzo? Is it addictive? would you take them for sleep? Will they work if I'm having slight wd's to keep me asleep. I seem to have wd's through out the night unless I take like 1 norco in the middle of the night and I'm not doing that anymore.

Thank you.
 
So your quitting opiates and wanted a non-addictive sleeping agent and your doctor gives you soma? I'm sorry but your doctor is a dumbass and is probably trying to get you hooked on something else. Soma is very much addictive, although tolerance sets in pretty quick which leads users to chase A high that's pretty much gone. IIRC soma metabolizes into a barbiturate but don't quote me on that. I've seen soma fuck peoples lives up. My opinion would be to only take as needed and keep in mind that soma IS addictive and you don't want to be careless with it. If you use it as needed for the short-term you should be fine.

As far as a hypnotic goes, soma is okay I guess. The first couple times you should have no problem sleeping like a rock but I don't know about long term. Keep in mind that opiate withdrawal related sleeping problems can persist past the physical part. You may not be able to sleep like you used to for up to a month or more depending on the opiate. IMO benzos are a far superior anxiolytic/hypnotic than soma but soma should do fine, probably less addicting than benzos as well. Definately better than nothing. Go ahead and give soma a go tonight and see how it holds you as nobody can tell how a drug is going to affect you. Hope you get through this addiction and never look back. Opiates are truely a demon in disguise.
 
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Thanks for the input. I will take that into consideration. The DR looked right at me and said it wasn't addictive. Maybe he meant the 30 he gave me won't be addictive. humph?
 
Thanks for the input. I will take that into consideration. The DR looked right at me and said it wasn't addictive. Maybe he meant the 30 he gave me won't be addictive. humph?

Yeah it's strange that he would do that but it doesn't surprise me. Some docs hand stuff like this out like candy. I reccomend doing some research on soma as it seems you've never taken it. If you have no GABA tolerance don't take any more than 1 your first time. The first time I took soma was in highschool. I took just one thinking I wouldn't feel shit as I was a drug hardhead and boy was I wrong lol. That one soma had me nodding my ass off, It felt like a benzo on steroids. Since then I haven't been able to recreate that effect, although I've gotten close at times but it's best that you don't even open that can of worms and use as needed. It's definately the best of all the muscle relaxers which could prove very beneficial in withdrawal although I have never used it for that purpose. If he only plans on giving you that one 30 script then you very well may leave unscaved but don't let him overprescribe or you'll be a sloppy, word slurring mess in no time.
 
You'll not get addicted to one a night. I took three a day for years and had no trouble stopping.
 
While that may have been the case for you when I lived in texas I've seen way too many soma addicts than I should've. I personally have never had the slightest urge to keep taking soma as it only gives good effects every once in a while and after even a couple days use tolerance was beyond noticable. Short term will be fine but I've known people who absolutely freak out when they don't have the shit, I'm talking severe agitation, anxiety, paranoia, shakyness... I'm sure they must've been suffering some sort of physical withdrawal. All over some lame muscle relaxer. Either way it's not something one wants to get into using everyday, especially when in the process of quitting another substance.
 
First time I did soma I took 6 pills and then smoked BHO dabs for the first time. I was about to pass out, my face was white, and I was stumbling around. I was REALLY high but when I got home (rode my bike lol) I passed the fuck out.
 
Talk to your Dr about clonidine, (very effective to make you sleep, it's non-addictive, at least if you don't use it for six months, i think, but you must be careful with your blood's pressure, it's a central active antihypertensive agent, and it's very common used for opiate W/Ds...i use it as a potentiator, actually..;)). But anyway, please talk about it with your Dr, we don't play with our blood's pressure...:\.

Amitryptylline, it's a tricyclic antidepressant, and i think that it's used as a sleeping aid...AGAIN, talk about it with your Dr..
Lyrica (pregabalin), Neurontin (gabapentin) are drugs that are common used to ease the opi's w/ds, but you've got to be careful, cause they have their own w/d's, if you take it for some time...AGAIN, talk about it with your Dr.

Also some first generation antihystaminic drugs like, orphenadrine, phenergan, hydroxyzine (esp. this i think..), even diphenhydramine can help you go to sleep..
Doxylamine, melatonin..there're a lot of things to help you sleep and ease the w/d's, take a look here http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/569872-The-Opioid-Withdrawal-Megathread-and-FAQ?, i'm sure you'll find a tone of info's mate..:)

BUT PLEASE REMEMBER, first talk to your Dr, i'm sure he/she will help you a lot, and if not, then find another one...
I wish you all the world's good luck, i know that you're going through a very difficult situation, and even if it seems endlessly, it's not, it will end, and you'll be fine and winner..Be safe and fine, mate..:)%)




MartinFn
 
my favorite sleeping medication by far is ghb, but there are some things to watch for

1, maybe 2 doses per day max to avoid dependence/increasing tolerance (at least that's enough for me), anything more is probably going to cause problems, a break every few weeks if also a good idea

it's highly unlikely that you'll get it from a doctor and your insurance may not want to pay for it (the pharmaceutical version is really expensive)

it's illegal and has that whole date rape drug stigma attached so getting caught with it would be bad (especially if you have large amounts, since they'll try to charge you with intent to sell)
 
Talk to your Dr about clonidine, (very effective to make you sleep, it's non-addictive, at least if you don't use it for six months, i think, but you must be careful with your blood's pressure, it's a central active antihypertensive agent, and it's very common used for opiate W/Ds...i use it as a potentiator, actually..;)). But anyway, please talk about it with your Dr, we don't play with our blood's pressure...:\.

Amitryptylline, it's a tricyclic antidepressant, and i think that it's used as a sleeping aid...AGAIN, talk about it with your Dr..
Lyrica (pregabalin), Neurontin (gabapentin) are drugs that are common used to ease the opi's w/ds, but you've got to be careful, cause they have their own w/d's, if you take it for some time...AGAIN, talk about it with your Dr.

Also some first generation antihystaminic drugs like, orphenadrine, phenergan, hydroxyzine (esp. this i think..), even diphenhydramine can help you go to sleep..
Doxylamine, melatonin..there're a lot of things to help you sleep and ease the w/d's, take a look here http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/569872-The-Opioid-Withdrawal-Megathread-and-FAQ?, i'm sure you'll find a tone of info's mate..:)

BUT PLEASE REMEMBER, first talk to your Dr, i'm sure he/she will help you a lot, and if not, then find another one...
I wish you all the world's good luck, i know that you're going through a very difficult situation, and even if it seems endlessly, it's not, it will end, and you'll be fine and winner..Be safe and fine, mate..:)%)




MartinFn

May as well add mirtazapine in as well. It's an antidepressant that's causes little to no withdrawal and is commonly prescribed as a sleep aid.
 
I've seen some people pretty hooked on soma. Get extremely shaky when needing them.
I'd recommend stick to melatonin maybe ambien at the strongest.
Phenergan has always put me straight to sleep.
 
I personally have never had the slightest urge to keep taking soma as it only gives good effects every once in a while and after even a couple days use tolerance was beyond noticable.

this. I don't know of ANY other drug where it works great as directed 1st night and by night 3 a whole damned bottle of the stuff is useless. Motrin PM is better.

Zyprexa for sleep? I was on it for years, for sleep (chronic insomnia and working rotating shifts), and I ballooned up 70lbs and found out a year later I had type 2 diabetes. As soon as I quit the Zyprexa, my blood sugar went back to normal and I got back to a normal weight.

Best thing for me for sleep is to work a hard day, then it's ights out no problem. a hit or two off of some cheap weed will do the same.
 
soma tolerance builds VERY VERY fast. u will need more and more to achieve that drunk drowsy feeling off of them. take too many and u will start having uncontrollable tremors/shakes. ive seen it, and experienced it. muscle relaxers suck imo. benzo's achieve the same thing with much better euphoria. just sucks they are so addictive. i love my etiz and k-pins. i hate xanax but have a ton of it. its all i can ever find on the street.

"I don't know of ANY other drug where it works great as directed 1st night and by night 3 a whole damned bottle of the stuff is useless."

yes exactly. this drug is best used as a money maker. i hate to say that. its certainly highly abusable... i once got a bunch of samples of it from an old dr back in 2009. some of the samples had pills missing out of them. someone knew that they could get high on them, but only so many times if not just once or twice within a short period.

also DO NOT DRIVE while on soma if you arent experienced with it. its like being drunk, but even worse. i watched a cops episode where a chick had caused an accident and it was cuz she was on soma. she even admitted it, thinking because it was prescribed that she was in the right and everything was just fine. she almost killed someone.

soma is a strange thing imo.

my old sub dr hated benzo's. he even had a contract u had to sign saying u wouldnt accept any benzo scripts from other dr's, no exceptions. even with that, he said my old GP DR was nuts for not giving me a one time small script of K-pin for that issue at that time, instead of a big script of 350 somas. (k pin would have been free for me too, go figure, soma was very expensive.)
he also agreed that cyclobenzaprine(flexeril) is a crappy drug overall and another poor choice... since i had mentioned how i hated it, but needed muscle relaxation so took it anyways. he told me a crazy long story about alcohol and benzo's getting the best of him when he lived the high life in chicago years back. he said even with the potential of addiction and other problems they pose, certain benzos like valium and k-pin can be used very successfully for mucle relaxation. i mean they gave me valium for my sciatica in the hospital once. it helped way more than ANY opiate or NSAID.

since then, with a bit of experimenting on my own, ive realized that benzo's provide the best muscle relaxation i can find atm. plus i just happen to have bad anxiety. so i know i sure would want to fight for a benzo over soma. i mean dr's are nuts if they think soma doesnt get u high, and the benzo does. its just the benzo - dependency thing thats hard to get around. thats why usa needs etizolam badly. less addictive supposedly, idk tho hard to say ime...

now im on k-pin as a script... long story short: its the best muscle relaxer ive ever had by a long shot and its not wearing away, and its been a few months now, and ive even cut my dose in half against my will. still works great. stupid dr's... they all think they know it all, but all disagree on how to handle even some of the most basic things. maybe we DO need gov controlled health care. as long as they can get it right... which they can, but probably wouldnt. sigh... off topic i know. im sry


soma sucks after the first couple times u take it. it builds tolerance faster than any drug i can think of. especially euphoria wise.
 
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