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I was gifted some b. caapi and p. viridis recently and I would like to turn them into alcohol tinctures for micro-dosing, but I first want to confirm that I'm not about to waste a bunch of valuable plant material on a formulation that won't work. I think that alcohol extraction of harmala and harmaline is doable but I'm not sure about the DMT aspect of p. viridis, and DMT chemistry is way above my knowledge pay grade.
My understanding is that these plants weakly extract into high proof ethanol (95% or higher). My goal here is to ingest very small amounts of the end product so that the plant medicine is in my body and consciousness as I go about my day, but I'm not having a full on trip. I have many personal reasons for doing it this way that I won't get into, plus my body is too frail to withstand a full on trip right now. I have no scientific way to analyze the concentration of the end product so I would just start with ridiculously small doses (one drop or less) and work up from there.
Finding reliable info about tincturing these plants online is very difficult so I thought I'd ask some of the experts here. I just want to know if the ethanol route is sensible or not. Also, should I add anything else? Normally when you decoct these plants in water on the stove you add a bit of vinegar to decrease PH -- but that's using water, not alcohol. I have seen some info about PH being a factor in efficacy of extraction but I don't know how that would translate to an alcohol tincture, or what I would add to enact this.
If this gets too complicated then I considered just decocting the plants and preserving the end product with alcohol -- but again, no idea if this would work.
Any advice from the chemists here would be appreciated
My understanding is that these plants weakly extract into high proof ethanol (95% or higher). My goal here is to ingest very small amounts of the end product so that the plant medicine is in my body and consciousness as I go about my day, but I'm not having a full on trip. I have many personal reasons for doing it this way that I won't get into, plus my body is too frail to withstand a full on trip right now. I have no scientific way to analyze the concentration of the end product so I would just start with ridiculously small doses (one drop or less) and work up from there.
Finding reliable info about tincturing these plants online is very difficult so I thought I'd ask some of the experts here. I just want to know if the ethanol route is sensible or not. Also, should I add anything else? Normally when you decoct these plants in water on the stove you add a bit of vinegar to decrease PH -- but that's using water, not alcohol. I have seen some info about PH being a factor in efficacy of extraction but I don't know how that would translate to an alcohol tincture, or what I would add to enact this.
If this gets too complicated then I considered just decocting the plants and preserving the end product with alcohol -- but again, no idea if this would work.
Any advice from the chemists here would be appreciated