flyingbanana
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i don't normally post reports, but i thought i'd share this one since questions on MDA vs. MDMA creep up all the time, i might as well add to the body of experience.
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solo - (brutal, unforgiving) introspective healing session
7/22-7/23/05
90 +/- 2mg MDA.HCl
T+0 ~ 10:35pm
setting: alone, wanting to have a relaxing evening and look into issues in my head
T - 2h - was a large meal, did not seem to effect absorption though
T+0h - ingest bitter-sweet crystals in minimal amount of lemonade
T+20 min - alert! PEA dream-vision creeping in, tingling, warmth
T+30 min - it's on
slight naseua - had to vomit. interesting, this never happens on mdma, but it seems to be a property of mda.
it was difficult to find what music i really wanted to listen to - kept switching all over the place, from rachmaninoff, tchaikovsky, melodic space post-rock, fast psytrance, chilled ambient - i stuck with chilled ambient (like shpongle) in the end, partly because some of these musics (classical) were bringing me to such emotional depths that were too much to take in, without dealing with what's going on in here
this stuff is very intense, emotionally - the emotions aren't colored by bliss like how they would be on mdma, they are presented to you, raw, as they are. very introspective, personal experience. internal dialogue comes easy and is often brutally unforgiving, interrogation style. negative issues, problems are felt physically - in the stomach, as a weight (which i think is a normal experience for people dealing with issues? transferring negativity into the body to avoid dealing with it)
i tried to get rid of the weight but only dry heaving and no relief - psychosomatic - work through the weight...
T+3h - intense part coming down, but still impaired and heightened - this could be the part ppl describe as "trippy". not as emotional, but still "feels good"
T+5h - still coming down, peaceful/contented feeling. went for a refreshing walk somewhere here, watching the beautiful night sky (full moon!), contemplating the intense part
T+6h - largely down, still residual (sparkle-vision, high heart-rate, urinary retention)
it's going into T+7h now, still residual, slight jaw clenching, inability to sleep but still feeling very peaceful/contented, tingly head
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my thoughts on MDA vs. MDMA (all samples are verified pure):
i won't go into basic effects similarities (heart rate, nystagmus, jaw, etc.)
Duration - like they said on erowid, it all depends on where you keep count! the "generally mdma-like" portion of the experience ends at around the time you'd expect it to, but then you get an added bonus (T+3h to now in the report) of an entirely unique? mda portion. not emotional/connections, just plain chillin, like a daydream - don't know how else to describe. visuals also become more pronounced at this later stage
Visuals - same mdma "visuals" are present (enhanced aesthetic appreciation, beauty, sparkle-vision) but there also seems to be more action in the eye wiggle? things are more blurry than from mdma. this leads to "replacement phenomena", your brain filling in blank spaces - mistaking trees in the distance for curtains, things like that. definietely not at all like the visuals of traditional psychedelics (which are actual distortions like swirling, fractalization, etc. though the "replacement phenomena" does occur sometimes on tradtional psychedelics)
Potency - MDA i believe is slightly more potent than MDMA (HCl salts). 90mg of MDA was like 100-120mg MDMA.
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T+7h - ready for sleep! can already tell it's gonna be a little difficult because of stimulation (which is another difference from MDMA, on which i can fall asleep easily T+6h), but don't want to mix in other chemicals into the experience to sleep
Addendum:
deciphered from scribbled notes:
"there is a profound emptiness deep inside every one of us
it comes from our ego - our individuality. that is the sacrifice."
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solo - (brutal, unforgiving) introspective healing session
7/22-7/23/05
90 +/- 2mg MDA.HCl
T+0 ~ 10:35pm
setting: alone, wanting to have a relaxing evening and look into issues in my head
T - 2h - was a large meal, did not seem to effect absorption though
T+0h - ingest bitter-sweet crystals in minimal amount of lemonade
T+20 min - alert! PEA dream-vision creeping in, tingling, warmth
T+30 min - it's on
slight naseua - had to vomit. interesting, this never happens on mdma, but it seems to be a property of mda.
it was difficult to find what music i really wanted to listen to - kept switching all over the place, from rachmaninoff, tchaikovsky, melodic space post-rock, fast psytrance, chilled ambient - i stuck with chilled ambient (like shpongle) in the end, partly because some of these musics (classical) were bringing me to such emotional depths that were too much to take in, without dealing with what's going on in here
this stuff is very intense, emotionally - the emotions aren't colored by bliss like how they would be on mdma, they are presented to you, raw, as they are. very introspective, personal experience. internal dialogue comes easy and is often brutally unforgiving, interrogation style. negative issues, problems are felt physically - in the stomach, as a weight (which i think is a normal experience for people dealing with issues? transferring negativity into the body to avoid dealing with it)
i tried to get rid of the weight but only dry heaving and no relief - psychosomatic - work through the weight...
T+3h - intense part coming down, but still impaired and heightened - this could be the part ppl describe as "trippy". not as emotional, but still "feels good"
T+5h - still coming down, peaceful/contented feeling. went for a refreshing walk somewhere here, watching the beautiful night sky (full moon!), contemplating the intense part
T+6h - largely down, still residual (sparkle-vision, high heart-rate, urinary retention)
it's going into T+7h now, still residual, slight jaw clenching, inability to sleep but still feeling very peaceful/contented, tingly head
----------------------------------------------------
my thoughts on MDA vs. MDMA (all samples are verified pure):
i won't go into basic effects similarities (heart rate, nystagmus, jaw, etc.)
Duration - like they said on erowid, it all depends on where you keep count! the "generally mdma-like" portion of the experience ends at around the time you'd expect it to, but then you get an added bonus (T+3h to now in the report) of an entirely unique? mda portion. not emotional/connections, just plain chillin, like a daydream - don't know how else to describe. visuals also become more pronounced at this later stage
Visuals - same mdma "visuals" are present (enhanced aesthetic appreciation, beauty, sparkle-vision) but there also seems to be more action in the eye wiggle? things are more blurry than from mdma. this leads to "replacement phenomena", your brain filling in blank spaces - mistaking trees in the distance for curtains, things like that. definietely not at all like the visuals of traditional psychedelics (which are actual distortions like swirling, fractalization, etc. though the "replacement phenomena" does occur sometimes on tradtional psychedelics)
Potency - MDA i believe is slightly more potent than MDMA (HCl salts). 90mg of MDA was like 100-120mg MDMA.
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T+7h - ready for sleep! can already tell it's gonna be a little difficult because of stimulation (which is another difference from MDMA, on which i can fall asleep easily T+6h), but don't want to mix in other chemicals into the experience to sleep
Addendum:
deciphered from scribbled notes:
"there is a profound emptiness deep inside every one of us
it comes from our ego - our individuality. that is the sacrifice."
