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In another thread I was reading someone posted that he preferred soft but complex music when he was tripping on 2c-e.
To me I wouldn't have thought to put the two words together.
Would appreciate some opinions as to what bands, etc might come under this category
 
Cliché maybe, but the classical music of North India (Ali Akbar Khan, Ravi Shankar, Sachdev) fits this description perfectly. Maybe it's not always 'soft' in that it becomes very intense, but its textures and tonalities are never harsh and performances are intended to guide the listener gently into an intense state of bliss. I believe the first ever (subtle) reference to psychedelic culture on an album sleeve was in a reference to the importance of 'set and setting' in the liner notes to an early 60s recording by Shankar and Khan.
Other classic examples of 'soft but complex' which are great for tripping would be Miles Davis: Bitches Brew, In a Silent Way, On the Corner. There's lots of jazz that would fit that description, in fact.
:)
 
I can understand where the poster on the other thread was coming from.
One of my favorite tripping albums is Pink Floyd's Ummagumma. I have abandoned iit on 2c-e trips. Same with Infected Mushroom. So that post intrigued me. Thanks for the suggestios Sit.
Anyone else have some ideas for me?
 
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Bitches Brew,, is a master piece from another world... it influences and invokes the un-worldly its so the brew.
heheh, was about to listen to '' Call it Anything " Miles Davis at Isle Of Wight Festival...
august eighth nineteen seventy, to an audience of around six-hundred-thousand.
as the sun was setting.
;-)
Manta-Ray - Numinous Island
J. Y. Thibaudet

i just responded in a similar thread in Basic Drug Discussion not long ago, or maybe it was Psychedelic Drug discussion. honestly i'd do a search, you will have more responses then this thread would be allowed to contain.

;)
 
Thanks. I would be at a loss as to how to form the search..what we are talking about is not what most follks. Think of as trip music.
 
Earth - "Engine of Ruin"

These guys specialize in what I would consider "trip music". All of their stuff is slow, repetitive, but meticulously crafted and intricate ('complex' is definitely a word I would use). Most of their songs evoke a number of various emotions and mental states that it feels like you're "traveling" when listening to them on any psychedelic.
 
panic in paradise said:
Bitches Brew,, is a master piece from another world... it influences and invokes the un-worldly its so the brew.
heheh, was about to listen to '' Call it Anything " Miles Davis at Isle Of Wight Festival...
august eighth nineteen seventy, to an audience of around six-hundred-thousand.
as the sun was setting.
;-)
Manta-Ray - Numinous Island
J. Y. Thibaudet

i just responded in a similar thread in Basic Drug Discussion not long ago, or maybe it was Psychedelic Drug discussion. honestly i'd do a search, you will have more responses then this thread would be allowed to contain.

;)
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Yep can't stress it enough: if you've never tripped to bitches brew then give it a try at least once: it's just perfect.
 
or if one can keep their eyes closed, and relaxed, motionless through the albums entirety [/i, it seems possible to end up their anyway...;-)

Bitches Brew and the Deads Blues for Allah are a part of my few earliest child-hood memories...
~hehe
my dad and his "adult" friends in the garage...

<3
;)
 
Heh...I suspect I am your dad's age or older. Blues for Allah would and has often been a 2c e album. Wokingman's Dead too. The Dead is my "go to" music for 2c I tripping ESPECIALLY fun when tripping and playing World of Warcraft..whiich has become a favorite thing to do the last couple of months.

Thanks all for the suggestions. Any others will be much appreciated. Gonna listen to bitches brew tonight!
 
got a late start...40mg of 2c e and queued up Bitches Brew at the one hour or so point...
Interesting..I keep wanting to say its not quite what I am looking for...but each time as I am about to say it I get drawn back in....
 
wow ..just got up off of my bed. Stiff!....Decided to switch things up. :D Perhaps another day for Miles Davis
Downloaded a Ravi Shankar discography. Set itunes up to run through it all and..that was amazing. Spent 4 hours face down unable to move. Perfect fit for this trip .
Some water and I think I will head back for more
 
While we're on the subject of jazz-like substances I'd just have to throw in a nod for John Coltrane's Live at the Village Vanguard for listening to while tripping, and Charles Mingus's live at Cornell 1964 album. It's really awesome to hear the differences in the personalities between those three great jazz minds: Miles, Coltrane, and Mingus. And the differences are stark when listening to them all while tripping. I prefer mushrooms for jazz, for some reason idk why, but then again I only did 2-ce once and the music selection was out of my control that night so I was forced to listen to dubstep the whole time. Not exactly soft music...
This band I've been really digging is called Attack of the Giant Squid. They're a modern jazz influenced extravaganza. Experimental progressive electronic/acoustic jazz hard rock dub funk music I guess is what the genre is. Check em out.
Dopapod is another more funk influenced experimental instrumental group that has lots of well composed parts.
Hmm who else...Soulive for sure, John Scofield, Medeski Martin and Wood, Bennevento and Russo duo there's a whole music scene based on people tripping more or less, or people who just love well written music that happens to be "soft and complex" yet also "quite interesting" and in some cases "amazing" etc.
 
May not exactly count as soft and complex, but sigur ros has never failed to blow my mind under the influence of 2C-E.
 
i use to have a nice compilation of ambiant phish jams that was pretty solid. don't know where it is though.

here are a few phish songs that might tickle your fancy, you have to give them time but....

sand
slave to the traffic light
reba
harry hood
2001
 
oh, and what about broken bells, mgmt, wilco kind of stuff.

not over the top complex, but pretty solid.
 
sigur ros can definitely be Soft&Complex,,, his/their BBCradio1 performance of ''weirdos'' was what i would loop on my head-phones for my most recent(6yearsago?!?) DMT 'sessions'

Coltrane is the man, and gets and gives nods... for sure.
but much different then Bitches-Brew.
i may actually go to Coltrane more for straight Jazz, and trust any quartet ensemble he is in.

Bitches-Brew is jazz, but i would warn people, that its actually Fusion... many Jazz listeners may not take this feel on so well.
what happened with this album, was that Miles took these great established musicians, and dropped them on new to them electric keyboards/hammond organ, or electric guitars with lots of effects. many relative changes in the musicians training, and practice that caused them to have to relearn their instrument, force through, disassociate and this is very striking and apparent through out this album -- it is the way Miles Davis directed and manipulated this "fugue" of Jazz, and it couldnt of been done any other way i dont believe; it had to be a natural process; a rebirth which cant honestly be done knowingly.

hmm ramble///
 
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