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Social anxiety experienced whilst using Psychedelics

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Firstly, I want to acknowledge that I am sure this is not an original topic, and nor do I imagine it will be the last of it's kind. I am, however, interested to what extent the following feelings are experienced by the wider community of psychedelic users - and to try and ascertain whether it is either normal behavior, something that may improve with practice, or a personality trait.

My experiences with psychedelic drugs, of the tryptamine and phenethylamine classes, are not limited in number. I am fairly experienced and have been using them occasionally, and sometimes more frequently than this, for 5 years now. I would say I've tripped around 30 times on a variety of substances and have had a wide range of experiences: mostly positive and uplifting, but with the occasional trip spent in angst or less-than-positive introspection. Without boring you further with my psychedelic history, suffice to say that most of the negative aspects of my trips are based on a feeling of discomfort around social environments. In particular, this manifests itself as an inability to talk to strangers who could or should not know that I am under the influence. What characterises this the most is a fear of sounding nonsensical, tripping over my words - which is something that can often occur in the midst of an experience, as thoughts are often difficult to disentangle, or indeed the concept of speech at times... disappears! - and, to a certain extent, a worry about my physical appearance being off or unsuited for the social situation (with regards to a social norm). By this last point, I specifically mean body language, position of eyes during speech etc.

I feel it should be noted that at times I feel quite self-conscious during my everyday life; in particular eye-contact I have noticed is difficult to maintain with people I do not know or immediately feel comfortable around. This is more pronounced during times of excess stress or unfamiliarity.

I also feel I should note that I know several people who feel the same way whilst under psychedelic influence, and that also, as a group, most of our trips take place in secluded countryside locations. This is partly due to this, although personal preference does come into it. I have tripped several times recently in urban areas, seeing live music for instance, and have found that I am not able to fully let-go and enjoy the experience in the same way, for this reason.

My questions are these: have you ever experienced this? and, if so, have you managed to improve the situation by "getting used to" tripping in public?

peace
 
You're not supposed to be able to be "social" on a full dose of a true psychedelic. You're not supposed to be able to talk rationally or understand other people. Some people can learn to navigate the psychedelic landscape to the point where they can do all sorts of things, but the experience itself is fundamentally about letting go and losing most of these abilities temporarily.

I love dosing in public but will only take a strong dose of any psychedelic if I'm at an event completely controlled by heads in a safe environment where everyone else is tripping too. If I can't safely appear completely dosed with all that entails it's not a good place to dose. I will take lower doses in public at straight or semi-straight events but only if I have a safe and inconspicuous place to ride out the peak, an escape route, etc.
 
^agreed; tripping in public is not ideal. I used to be able to handle it but there are just too many variables and i've had some massively paranoid experiences that were miserable in public. Not too many people are going to realize you are tripping anyway, most people have no idea what it looks like when someone is on a psychedelic. Maybe they will think there is something off about you or that you are 'on' something but as long as they aren't cops or family, then who really cares what they think.

This is where the whole set and setting thing comes into play. IME the more trips i had the worse i became with tripping in public. At first i used to always trip in public settings. Now i would do everything possible to avoid it. I don't even like tripping with other people.
 
as you get more experienced with tripping you MAY be able to trip in public.

but it's more likely that you'll learn that you don't want to trip in public.
 
I can relate 100%
When I was a teenager I would trip in social situations all the time and after a while I noticed just how uncomfortable being stuck in my head was. Now as an adult I realize that this feeling is an extension of how I feel in social situations normally, just magnified. If you can get over your social anxiety that you have while sober than you may be able to trip in a social situation. I however choose not to. It tends to ruin the experience because the whole time I'm stuck in my head thinking "I ought to be talking right now..what do these people think of me?"...etc, etc, etc
 
Thanks for the responses. I am inclined to agree that tripping in public is not ideal - however it seems a shame that, at least in close proximity to where I am from, all of the beautiful areas attract a lot of visitors and are thus, busy.

Perhaps lower doses are the way forward in situations such as these: save the larger ones for trips further afield or in a safer place.

peace
 
I've definitely experienced this but by tripping at raves and festivals I now feel a lot more confident tripping in public. Just remember to take extra precautions when out in public both so that you stay physically safe and so that you don't get yourself into any scary/uncomfortable situations that might spoil your trip.
 
I can also relate to this, as I am naturally fairly quiet and introverted, and when tripping that is magnified a lot. However, when in a group of people who are also tripping the shared wavelength can be a really nice and social experience. I do not like tripping around people who are sober, not at all it's pretty awful actually. I find mushrooms the worst that I've tried, for anxiety and uncomfortable situations. Like you'll be out somewhere and get paranoid about people realizing. I love tripping in nature but you have to get there first which can mean a journey through streets and people etc..

I'm surprised no one has mentioned combining whatever psychedelic you are on, with MDMA or something similar. The 'candyflip' (LSD + MDMA) as some call it, can be a lovely experience. It takes many of the negative ansty feelings the psychedelic can have and replaces them with lush feelings of contentment and empathy, whilst maintaining the visual aspects and fun trippiness of the psychedelic. You never tried this? Or yeah try an easier going substance like 2c-b. I do find if I'm feeling overly anxious, or uncomfortable during a trip and panic at all, just drink some alcohol! Yeah a few beers or something works wonders for me. Sure it may 'dull' the trip slightly, but makes for a smoother ride IME.
 
I'll just mention that if you're smoking marijuana, the anxiety is likely to be much worse.

Other than that, it's just a matter of practice and knowing when to stay in private.
 
I've had social anxiety disorder, or depending on the shrink you ask, avoidant personality disorder, for decades. Pot make mine worse. Much worse. So I have strict rules about pot. Never in public. Only at home when the work is done and I don't have to go out. Interestingly, on a light dose of acid or shrooms I can actually loosen up and become more social, confident, life of the party. Try a light dose with no cannabis and see if you get exactly the opposite effect on you.
 
I tended to have some sort of social anxiety when tripping when i was very inexperienced. I haven't tripped at a fest or anything in a couple years, but that always wigged me out. But when I'm tripping with just my friends, I've learned that "Yeah I'm tripping balls right now, this is amazing, and if I don't or can't talk, fuck it, I'm still having a blast." And that is an awesome state to be in. But every person and experience is different.
 
I tripped in public loads of times back in the day. The secret? Booze, lots and lots of booze. Me and my mate used to drop and acid and go to the pub, did it loads of times. We got that used to it in the end we used to sit chatting to my mates mum and dad. Crazy looking back. It was back when they used to be them lotus flowers, dancing test tubes, strawberries (oh the strawberries :D), robots, yellow sunshines etc would have been around 1992-ish. The acid on its own, no chance. Add 8 to 10 pints of lager and its game on. That being said I do remember on a few occasions turning to my mate and saying "gonna have to get out of here man, my heads in bits".

Mushrooms on the other hand, no amount of alcohol could ever passify them trips. Uncontrollable.
 
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