social anxiety and mdma?

[michael_1992]

ok i actually have aspergers but i think most of my social problems is due to anxiousness around people than trouble communicating, though my social ineptness seems to have caused my social anxiety which further makes me less socially experienced. What is the best drug for social anxiety, i will guess mdma will help, is that correct. anything i have ever taken (except morning glory (interesting that that helped isnt it)) has not taken away social anxiety/ social clumsiness. i will assume that i have social anxiety and not aspergers since there is at least hope for social anxiety

 

[GBM]

As far as taking drugs for problems I'd advise against it. From my experiences MDMA does make me a LOT more social and not shy at all, however I would advise against using it to achieve this. For someone like you who has a lot of trouble in social situations, if you did use MDMA and it did work, you might see yourself using it a LOT more then you should. By all means try it but try to keep your doses few and far between. Once a month at most would be safest, cheapest and best imo.

 

[rickolasnice]

I Believe MDMA (and amphetamine ) Abuse made my social anxiety ALOT worse.. that's if it didn't cause it..

However.. before my usage called have been called abuse.. it did help.

Be careful.

You can get benzodiazepines prescribed for short term treatment of social anxiety.. maybe ask your doctor about them?

Or you can buy some phenibut.. which worked amazingly well for me. (You can get it online)

 

[elroy44]

If you have asbergers, then I highly doubt that taking mdma would solve any of your social problems. I don't know too much about asbergers to be honest, but it doesn't seem like taking a drug like mdma would reverse or even permanently take away some of the effects of the disease. If your social problems are truly just anxiety based, however, I would say that there is a slight chance that mdma could help you out. I remember after my first time rolling I felt like I had a new outlook on life, like I could communicate with my friends more easily, and like the world was a more beautiful and happy place. A lot of these feelings arose simply because of the incredible experience of rolling with some of my best friends; the mdma made me realize how much they meant to me and how deep a connection we really had.
So I guess I would say that you should try rolling with some people you really care about if they're open to the idea, but honestly I wouldn't expect it to permanently solve any problems, and be very wary of the extremely negative social effects it can have on you after prolonged abuse!

 

[boltfan909]

I am willing to bet it WOULD help while you were under the influence of MDMA, however I am also willing to bet it would have little to no affect on your social anxiety once the effects of the MDMA are gone. If you are looking for a day to day fix, something like Ativan or other types of benzo's would probably be your best bet. I have pretty bad anxiety myself. The come-up of MDMA brings me horrid anxiety, but once I get through it I am golden. You just have to really try to keep calm and realize anxiety is all in your head.

I do not know enough about asbergers to tell you what meds would suit you best, you should talk to your doc about that. My little cousin has asbergers but, from my understanding it's not so much social anxiety as it is having a far less grip on other people's feelings. For instance, my cousin has a hard time determining whether your mad, sad, happy etc. All OUR emotions kinda blend together for him. He's an extremely smart kid, just lacks the social skills because of the reasons I mentioned. He doesn't appear overly shy, or anxious at all though.

 

[Bearlove]

Good and interesting question - this depends on a few things

What medication your taking now

Who you intend to roll with and more importantly – where?

I understand that a part of the Aspergers is the lack of empathy towards others and not being to understand the 'normal' rules of interaction? Is the lack of empathy something that is hard wired in the brain or a physical difference or something else all together?

I would be really interested to hear your experiences if you tried it but as I have very little knowledge of Aspergers or how you would cope with the sudden rush of empathy (if physically possible) or how the comedown / lack of empathy would effect you, I could only say use caution.

If you were to try it, I would suggest a home setting with close and trusted friends who are aware of your Aspergers - for heavens sake TEST your gear though. I would imagine loading up on Meth/Piperazines would be a complete nightmare experience for you as they just screw up your thought pattern so much.

If you dont mind answering could you maybe explain Aspergers for us?

 

[Bearlove]

Aspergers and being shy/quite are two different things.

 

[boltfan909]

Aspergers and being shy/quite are two different things.

Yea, thats' what I was thinking. Correct me if I am wrong, but Aspergers is a form of Autism?

 

[Dave82]

Yea, thats' what I was thinking. Correct me if I am wrong, but Aspergers is a form of Autism?

You are correct sir, it's a high functioning form of Autism, what they lack in social skills they make up for in intelligence. I know because my nephew has it.

 

[boltfan909]

You are correct sir, it's a high functioning form of Autism, what they lack in social skills they make up for in intelligence. I know because my nephew has it.

Sounds spot on. My younger cousin has Asperger's and he's remarkably intelligent when it comes to puzzles/games/computers, however good luck carrying on a conversation with him.

 

[exoactus]

Me and you are most likely very alike. I am quiet, shy, and constantly socially anxious. When I first done mephedrone (which has very similar effects to MDMA) it was the best feeling of my life to date. I just wanted to talk to all the fit girls... use lots of energy... and just totally enjoy myself. But facing the facts is hard. *That happy person isn't you, it's the drug*.

That's interesting. Mephedrone for myself was amazing as well. Euphoria, confidence, I could properly express myself and share value.

After it was over I wasn't like "that wasn't me, it's the drug". Seems a bit like self-limiting beliefs to me.

My line of thinking was that "that WAS me" -- in fact a more real representation of me than the normal day-to-day level of consciousness that I normally carry around.

And it's just that the mephedrone dissolved certain barriers and blocks and allowed me to open up more.

So I think it is you. And, by taking the mephedrone and having this temporary state, you get the feeling.. you get to experience what it's like. You feel the liberation and, for a moment, you ARE that person -- you get to feel what it's like.

And then the trick is not to become dependent on the drug but rather through the experience and knowing what it feels like bring parts of it in to your normal day to day reality. Once you've felt it and once you've done it the door is open, you know what it's like.

But just having experience and KNOWING that it's possible.. that's the gift it can give. Experience is precious and primary, that's all we are and all we will ever know in this world.

If this thinking is flawed, let me know..
Perhaps I'm naive, and drugs have too much potential for abuse in most people for this to work out.. but I don't know.

 

[exoactus]

That's another things drugs in general have taught me..

I am not who I think I am.
I am everything, I am everyone.
There is no 'singular' you.

Similar in regard to how your parents perceive "You", or how your lover perceives "You, or how your friends or employers perceive "You". You are not just one thing, not just one personality. You have multiple personalities.
And if you want to do something or become something the way to do it is through examining the (B.S.) belief system. -- And this all goes into a philosophical discussion of culture and values and different assumptions all that.. but bottom line, change your beliefs and daily habits and you can become whoever and whatever you want to be.

Psychedelics, meditation, yoga,etc can all dissolve personal and cultural conditioning and help you see real true human potential. And then you have take action and create it for yourself.