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Sober tripping - why would I use drugs?

DemonSeed

DemonSeed

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Hola TDS!

Something really incredible happened to me this summer. I battled for several months against benzodiazepines. It took me several attempts and now I just see benzo as a poison. The last time I used stimulants was 8 months, novels drugs 9 months. I still took opiates and smoked weed... I was able to get on a pre-employment project and by the time I was totaly sober. I started working at this project; we were making a garden. This summer was very sunny so we mostly had a good time. I went a little crazy on a friday night, I started to crave but couldn't get anything strong. I ended up drinking a few beers and smoking a joint. Then I think it was the same night or the next one... something magical happened, something that changed my life forever and that I have yet barely explored!

I went to bed and fell asleep. I started to feel strong inner vibrations in my whole body. For some reason, I knew it was my chance to go out-of-body. I was quite familiar with lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis. I struggled a lot and found myself floating next to my bed! I was blind and kept going back to the inner vibrations state. I made some research on astral projection and learned how to avoid blindness, what to do, etc. I also started a dreams diary because in a previous lucid dream, I asked a "teacher" how to stay longer in this state and he told me to write down my experience. So I did... the next night I went out-of-body again. It was an extremely immersive experience which was as intense as an heavy psychedelic trip. I teleported in the nearby forest and by the river in the night sky... I saw a bunch a reindeers flying! I found myself into a jungle and met really tiny people who disapeared as if they didn't want to be disturbed... I asked where I could find my "spiritual master" as I read I should do everything to meet one. I was told to enter a building, there I met kids andI played smartass telling them speaking English or French didn't matter here... one of them sort of laughed at my know-it-all attitude. In another scene, I found myself in front of my computer, listening to the music I had been listening lately, but it was much more profound and sounded really different. It was very similar to listening to music while on psychedelics. I'm sure there is a link... I think when we are on psychedelics, we are more or less in-betweens worlds. Nevertheless, that was truly a magical experience!

I'm an extremely spiritual person, but my drugs addiction had turned me into a fucking wreck. What I found out this summer is that I don't need drugs at all because when I am sober, I have spontaneous astral projections and that is so fucking amazing I am so glad it's happening! I noticed subtle change both mentally and physically and also strange coincidences the days after. Physically, when I come back to my usual room and put the light on, I can see the full specter of the light around it... I call that phenomenom the "rainbow lights". It will sound crazy but in the following week, I started speaking with myself. It was like a more wise part of me a sort of higher self... it was telling me what to do to feel better. It kept telling me to give up cigarettes... so I did for a week. Eventually it faded away, that was probably when I started to use opiates heavily again. I sobered up two or three more times and when I was able to fall asleep easily, it happened again! Why would I do drugs when I have access to this when I stay clean? ;)

Can anyone relate to my experience?
 
Achieving Lucid dreaming and Astral projection would be absolutely blissful for me. From time to time I try to train (meditating or during my sleep, with or without drugs) just hoping to find complete spiritual enlightenment one day. I'm glad your first steps towards awakening helped you with your psychological drug issues, this motivates me even more as i am aware my current drug situation could lead to much worse sooner or later and that i urgently need to heal from depression.
 
ive only gotten that feeling where you wake up, like youve just fell into your bed..

Havent gotten that in a while. i dont dream anymore either..seems like ever since ive used drugs my dreams have gone dry. Real life and sleep :p
 
I've had both lucid dreams and OBEs (Out of body experiences) in them. Yeah it is amazing! I have had them while totally sober.

In my lucid dreams I just would do things you can't do while awake like fly, or I'd totally control the dream. In the OBEs in the LDs I've done things like switch bodies with people, go into space as pure energy, go down to the cellular level of plants, talked to dead relatives/ancestors, and do astral projection.

No I have never taken Ayahuasca but I've heard that when you experience Ayahuasca it's like that by people who did take it in legal ceremonies in South America. I don't use anything now.
 
Lucid dreaming is a topic that's interested me immensely for quite some time. I went through a phase of trying to keep a dream journal and all that but eventually just forgot about it due to lack of satisfaction with results I guess. Kind of jealous of people who have had actual lucid dreaming experiences.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
In my lucid dreams I just would do things you can't do while awake like fly, or I'd totally control the dream. In the OBEs in the LDs I've done things like switch bodies with people, go into space as pure energy, go down to the cellular level of plants, talked to dead relatives/ancestors, and do astral projection.
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That sounds very interesting... sort of like the next levels for me! I haven't been able to do much in my projections except flying a bit... getting afraid because of the height... and then just flying so high I could see the planet from far away. When you say you switched body, how did you do it anyway? I think I have randomly acheived transcorportation two times this summer in lucid dreaming... because at a point in my dream I was breathing on air. Flying into space as pure energy, going to the cellular level of plants... that seems very interesting! Have you heard of the "Akashic Records"? Apparently it's a place where all knowledge is stored in the subtle worlds. I have been trying to move by thought, telling myself I'm going there... but I haven't been succesful. I still need to practice ;)

The night after I drunk absinthe a few months ago, I found myself in a church in a LD. I started to fly but I reached the ceiling... I started to sing "Om" and I was able to go beyond... then my field of vision switched to the picture of a man with two balls of energy over it. The first one started to flash and I could read "Broadcasting"... and then there was a game... it's hard to explain but I failed the game and thus I failed in activating the other ball of energy. I sort of thought it could be chakras... upong searching the Internet, I found out New Age calls those "interpersonal chakras". It's on Wikipedia... pretty strange!

For people who wants to acheive this... start by conquering lucid dreaming first, it's the same goddam thing except when you go out-of-body, you are aware of the moment you quit your body. I got into lucid dreaming and started to have sleep paralysis after I did psilocybin mushrooms. When I'm clean, I'm very aware of the moment I'm going to fall asleep... I just keep looking at the third eye chakra which I have been able to see as a spinning purple ball of energy. And I tell myself "The body rests; the mind stays sharp". When I start to see a dream... I put my focus back on my third eye and BAM next thing I now I'm filled with vibrations. I thought for a long time I just had HPPD, but now I know I can see chakra. I have wanted to do this for many many years! And it happened spontaneously... in any case, I'm very happy because it gives me a major motivation to stay clean.
 
Also, my best friend dreamt the other day about his dead grand-mother. She was extremely pissed at him for giving / selling his oxycodone to me. She said something terrible is going to happen if he doesn't stop it now. The next day and he told me the story and gave me a last bottle of Supeudol. Now now I hope his grand-mother won't be too pissed because he took one more prescription to help me taper and he will take a last one tomorrow. Now it will be all up to me to not go see my hydromorph sources... those drugs are really terrible and I'm glad my friend showed up to be a true friend! And that is how dreams can truly have an impact on our physical reality.
 
DemonSeed said:
That sounds very interesting... sort of like the next levels for me! I haven't been able to do much in my projections except flying a bit... getting afraid because of the height... and then just flying so high I could see the planet from far away. When you say you switched body, how did you do it anyway? I think I have randomly acheived transcorportation two times this summer in lucid dreaming... because at a point in my dream I was breathing on air. Flying into space as pure energy, going to the cellular level of plants... that seems very interesting! Have you heard of the "Akashic Records"? Apparently it's a place where all knowledge is stored in the subtle worlds. I have been trying to move by thought, telling myself I'm going there... but I haven't been succesful. I still need to practice ;)

The night after I drunk absinthe a few months ago, I found myself in a church in a LD. I started to fly but I reached the ceiling... I started to sing "Om" and I was able to go beyond... then my field of vision switched to the picture of a man with two balls of energy over it. The first one started to flash and I could read "Broadcasting"... and then there was a game... it's hard to explain but I failed the game and thus I failed in activating the other ball of energy. I sort of thought it could be chakras... upong searching the Internet, I found out New Age calls those "interpersonal chakras". It's on Wikipedia... pretty strange!

For people who wants to acheive this... start by conquering lucid dreaming first, it's the same goddam thing except when you go out-of-body, you are aware of the moment you quit your body. I got into lucid dreaming and started to have sleep paralysis after I did psilocybin mushrooms. When I'm clean, I'm very aware of the moment I'm going to fall asleep... I just keep looking at the third eye chakra which I have been able to see as a spinning purple ball of energy. And I tell myself "The body rests; the mind stays sharp". When I start to see a dream... I put my focus back on my third eye and BAM next thing I now I'm filled with vibrations. I thought for a long time I just had HPPD, but now I know I can see chakra. I have wanted to do this for many many years! And it happened spontaneously... in any case, I'm very happy because it gives me a major motivation to stay clean.
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I'm not sure how I switched bodies in the lucid dream, it happened though. I have heard of the Akashic Records but I've never been there. I got into lucid dreaming by keeping a dream journal beside my bed where I'd just write down anything I remembered from my dreams even if it was just a few words, and I'd tell myself as I was falling asleep "I am dreaming." so when I was dreaming I'd recognize it.

Also here's something you may find interesting a friend of mine who's big into lucid dreaming told me about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Material
 
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