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I believe there is a thread about your DOC then. Use the search engine and you will be blessed.
What is your degree?
What is your degree?
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So who likes benzos? El Benzo Threado Spectacularrrr 2nd Edition
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tyrael
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Computer Science with a Diploma in Japanese. Thanks, ill UTFS. 
nabollocks
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Nice work. I hope your sleep patterns return to normal soon
drug_mentor
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^ I find it is mainly when alcohol is brought into the picture that you tend to act a fool. Big doses of benzos would probably be similar though.
drug_mentor
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Though I would bump this thread because I am celebrating tonight with a few valiums and a few whiskys. :D
Feeling hella chatty at the moment. You gotta love the benzo buzz. Anybody else been chilling out with some lovely pharmaceuticals lately?
Gotta keep this thread alive because there just aren't enough pharma threads on Australian drug discussion. Happy pharming everyone.
Feeling hella chatty at the moment. You gotta love the benzo buzz. Anybody else been chilling out with some lovely pharmaceuticals lately?
Gotta keep this thread alive because there just aren't enough pharma threads on Australian drug discussion. Happy pharming everyone.
I mainly use benzo's for knocking myself out after too many other drugs when I can't sleep.
What are people's thoughts on Stilnox?
I know it isn't really a benzo but it does put you to sleep and is a muscle relaxant.
I'm fresh out of Xanax and I have Xanax, Valium or Stilnox available to me.
Just wondering what the best choice would be?
What are people's thoughts on Stilnox?
I know it isn't really a benzo but it does put you to sleep and is a muscle relaxant.
I'm fresh out of Xanax and I have Xanax, Valium or Stilnox available to me.
Just wondering what the best choice would be?
drug_mentor
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I would take the valium definately, followed by xanax. Stilnox I do find recreational but it has a lot less reacreational potential and is less useful than benzo's imho. I don't know how advisable it would be for a comedown because people do some freaky shit.
You can get some visual distortions and shit on it though and it makes me feel more wobbly than benzo's do.
You can get some visual distortions and shit on it though and it makes me feel more wobbly than benzo's do.
I've only ever had one benzo and that was 30mg of oxazepam when i was completely blind drunk on a comedown with no sleep. Basically it put me into a weird flat mood and i felt like the world was ending...on the plus side i got to sleep really quickly but on the negative side i woke up during the night a few times, had messed up dreams and was really flat in a weird way the next day at work...not my usual mdma comedowny self.
Can't wait to get my hands on something decent though, ive been curious about them for a while now.
Can't wait to get my hands on something decent though, ive been curious about them for a while now.
Jimity
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Made the mistake of letting myself near benzos a week or so ago, whilst on acid.
After about 8 hours of tripping, I decided I had enough.
Woke up 30 hours later with 40mg less alprazolam, 35mg less diazapam and 7.5mg less lorazepam.
Don't do it.
After about 8 hours of tripping, I decided I had enough.
Woke up 30 hours later with 40mg less alprazolam, 35mg less diazapam and 7.5mg less lorazepam.
Don't do it.
Temazepam i've had before. I never take very much. I find it's both a wonderful and scary drug.
Wonderful because you just don't give a fuck and can be completely relaxed, roll with whatever
Scary because some of the stuff that you end up rolling with, you really should have given a fuck about. It makes you do things you wouldn't otherwise do, both good and bad. I've ended up hooking up with a friend once, and taken many unnecessary and silly risks
Oh and I end up not remembering shit the next day.
Wonderful because you just don't give a fuck and can be completely relaxed, roll with whatever
Scary because some of the stuff that you end up rolling with, you really should have given a fuck about. It makes you do things you wouldn't otherwise do, both good and bad. I've ended up hooking up with a friend once, and taken many unnecessary and silly risks
Oh and I end up not remembering shit the next day.
RedLeader
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I have mixed feeling about benzos.
I have been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder (something I've had my entire life, as opposed to being a direct product of stimulant (ab)use), so I've taken several different benzos in a theropeutic fashion in agreement with my doctor. Lorazepam, Clonazepam, Diazepam, Temazepam, and Alprazolam to name a few. And sure, they helped me (to an extent) with my condition, mainly allowing me to physically calm down and not be fearful of panic attacks. And my sister, who suffers from pretty much the same psychological conditions as myself, also has benefited much from benzos - they can be very good for people who are (unfortunately) born with heightened stress levels.
However, I also think benzos are possibly the most dangerous class of drugs in disguise. Because the "high" is typically so weak as compared to other depressant-type drugs, it's easy to not realise how quickly your body can get addicted to them, and how seriously they mess with your brian functions. There's no crash or hangover from a single normal-dose session; you don't wake up the next day with a reminder that drugs tend to take you up and then bring you back down. Furthermore, doctors will prescribe them in regimines that WILL get people physically addicted, yet at the same time not adequately forewarn them about such dependency. It seems like a lot of people are forced to learn the hard way. My doctor never warned me about withdrawals, despite writing me scripts for daily intake of Clonazepam, Diazepam and a few others. I learned both from experience and from research the extent to which they can be dangerous.
Also, it seems as if the high, if produced, does not grow linearly with respect to dosage. For example, I feel absolutely no change on 3mg of Lorazepam, yet 5mg has caused me to blackout and do "very foolish things." Similar stories are all over Bluelight. And this is not a good thing - for me the anxiety over whether or not my benzo dose is going to push me past that edge or not antagonizes the actual calming effect of the drug, rendering it less effective.
I've had a lot of low points in my drug career. I've had two horrifying piperazine experiences, have stayed up for 80 hours on amphetamines, have felt serious alcohol withdrawls after drinking daily for weeks at a time, and had a really rough time coming off of Effexor. However, I knew nothing about a how evil drug use could be until I was forced to go off of Xanax cold turkey (~3mg/day). It was the only time that I actually didn't just think things might not be okay, but was pretty sure I was going to die. Considering that people actually do die from benzo WD, this only potentiated my hysteria.
For the extremities of benzo WDs and growing tolerance, I personally do not think the recreational value is worth it at all. I've tried probably 8-10 diffrent benzos, and none of them ever gave me any real euphoria (either alone or in junction with other substances). Sure, they calm you down and can be similar to a few beers in helping you relax after a long day. But I personally would rather reach for opiates or alcohol as a recreational relaxer to try and manage my use of than benzos.
So ya, to summarise I think that if one seeks them legally through a (respectful and knowlegable) doctor to try and help issues with anxiety or sleep, they can do well. Or if one can start low and work one's way up to a comfortable recreational dose and not be foolish about one's setting and inclusion of other substances, they can be good fun *on occasion*. Again though, for someone who has felt the addiction and experienced the WDs, I personally echo every single warning existing about these drugs.
Be careful everyone and have fun
I have been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder (something I've had my entire life, as opposed to being a direct product of stimulant (ab)use), so I've taken several different benzos in a theropeutic fashion in agreement with my doctor. Lorazepam, Clonazepam, Diazepam, Temazepam, and Alprazolam to name a few. And sure, they helped me (to an extent) with my condition, mainly allowing me to physically calm down and not be fearful of panic attacks. And my sister, who suffers from pretty much the same psychological conditions as myself, also has benefited much from benzos - they can be very good for people who are (unfortunately) born with heightened stress levels.
However, I also think benzos are possibly the most dangerous class of drugs in disguise. Because the "high" is typically so weak as compared to other depressant-type drugs, it's easy to not realise how quickly your body can get addicted to them, and how seriously they mess with your brian functions. There's no crash or hangover from a single normal-dose session; you don't wake up the next day with a reminder that drugs tend to take you up and then bring you back down. Furthermore, doctors will prescribe them in regimines that WILL get people physically addicted, yet at the same time not adequately forewarn them about such dependency. It seems like a lot of people are forced to learn the hard way. My doctor never warned me about withdrawals, despite writing me scripts for daily intake of Clonazepam, Diazepam and a few others. I learned both from experience and from research the extent to which they can be dangerous.
Also, it seems as if the high, if produced, does not grow linearly with respect to dosage. For example, I feel absolutely no change on 3mg of Lorazepam, yet 5mg has caused me to blackout and do "very foolish things." Similar stories are all over Bluelight. And this is not a good thing - for me the anxiety over whether or not my benzo dose is going to push me past that edge or not antagonizes the actual calming effect of the drug, rendering it less effective.
I've had a lot of low points in my drug career. I've had two horrifying piperazine experiences, have stayed up for 80 hours on amphetamines, have felt serious alcohol withdrawls after drinking daily for weeks at a time, and had a really rough time coming off of Effexor. However, I knew nothing about a how evil drug use could be until I was forced to go off of Xanax cold turkey (~3mg/day). It was the only time that I actually didn't just think things might not be okay, but was pretty sure I was going to die. Considering that people actually do die from benzo WD, this only potentiated my hysteria.
For the extremities of benzo WDs and growing tolerance, I personally do not think the recreational value is worth it at all. I've tried probably 8-10 diffrent benzos, and none of them ever gave me any real euphoria (either alone or in junction with other substances). Sure, they calm you down and can be similar to a few beers in helping you relax after a long day. But I personally would rather reach for opiates or alcohol as a recreational relaxer to try and manage my use of than benzos.
So ya, to summarise I think that if one seeks them legally through a (respectful and knowlegable) doctor to try and help issues with anxiety or sleep, they can do well. Or if one can start low and work one's way up to a comfortable recreational dose and not be foolish about one's setting and inclusion of other substances, they can be good fun *on occasion*. Again though, for someone who has felt the addiction and experienced the WDs, I personally echo every single warning existing about these drugs.
Be careful everyone and have fun
JahRed24x
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Well of course Xanax will put you to sleep if you over-do it and take too much, and everyones tolerance is different (so newbs take it slow). But if you just take like 1 or 2 bars (2-4mgs alprazolam) then you won't pass out (with a normal tolerance, a newb could take 1-2mgs and be fucked up). It will just chill you out and help you relax but one bar has never made me even tired let alone pass out.
But yeah i do agree Alprazolam (aka XANAX) is for sure the best benzo out there right now. I've never tried midazolam so i dont know what its like, but from what i hear its probably better, especially sense its water-soluble and can be snorted or injected.
PS - now if your using xanax at night for insomnia i can understand how 1 xanax bar (2mg alprazolam) would most likely help you fall asleep but then again its already late at night and already kinda tired so the xanax would just help you fall asleep easier.
But yeah i do agree Alprazolam (aka XANAX) is for sure the best benzo out there right now. I've never tried midazolam so i dont know what its like, but from what i hear its probably better, especially sense its water-soluble and can be snorted or injected.
PS - now if your using xanax at night for insomnia i can understand how 1 xanax bar (2mg alprazolam) would most likely help you fall asleep but then again its already late at night and already kinda tired so the xanax would just help you fall asleep easier.
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I dont think this is against the rules, but if it is feel free to delete
Anyone have any advice on what benzo would be the best alcohol substitute for a night out? Ive heard some are better for mimicking the effects of booze, and since im tightening up my diet, but still want to go out and get loose, these seem perfect.
All in the name of harm minimisation of course.
Anyone have any advice on what benzo would be the best alcohol substitute for a night out? Ive heard some are better for mimicking the effects of booze, and since im tightening up my diet, but still want to go out and get loose, these seem perfect.
All in the name of harm minimisation of course.
satricion
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^^
Dude if you want to keep getting the quality information that fortehlulz posts on this board you should probably stfu with those questions.
Dude if you want to keep getting the quality information that fortehlulz posts on this board you should probably stfu with those questions.
katmeow
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The-Munt - is it just a sleep aid you are looking for? I'd consider stilnox the best of what you've listed. I'm not really sure why anyone uses it recreationally. It has its best value in what it's designed for, imho: a short term or irregular use sleep aid.
Whilst it doesn't apply to me personally, I know a number of people who are essentially out cold after 0.5 - 1mg of Xanax (sans alcohol/other substances), so I'd actually consider 4mg over the course of the evening for a first timer to be possible dangerous territory.
But, heartily endorse your final paragraph.
m3bmw1989 - How regularly do you go out? Even just using on a weekend basis, you can find benzo tolerance growing pretty quickly.
Dude! You really must have wanted to pull the plug on that trip
I do like a good benzo - like cheese, they go well with fine wine
Mostly a sometimes food for me, although I went through a bit of a bad patch last year when I was drinking every day and chowing through a few valiums a couple of nights a week. My head's in a much better place now though.
I find Xanax really useful, but it's not as easily obtainable for me, so I tend to save it. It's also pretty much my psychedelic safety net now due to some low level anxiety issues that like to rear their ugly head when I'm tripping. I don't always take it, but I wont trip without knowing it's available.
Whilst it doesn't apply to me personally, I know a number of people who are essentially out cold after 0.5 - 1mg of Xanax (sans alcohol/other substances), so I'd actually consider 4mg over the course of the evening for a first timer to be possible dangerous territory.
But, heartily endorse your final paragraph.
m3bmw1989 - How regularly do you go out? Even just using on a weekend basis, you can find benzo tolerance growing pretty quickly.
jimity said:
Dude! You really must have wanted to pull the plug on that trip
I do like a good benzo - like cheese, they go well with fine wine
Mostly a sometimes food for me, although I went through a bit of a bad patch last year when I was drinking every day and chowing through a few valiums a couple of nights a week. My head's in a much better place now though.
I find Xanax really useful, but it's not as easily obtainable for me, so I tend to save it. It's also pretty much my psychedelic safety net now due to some low level anxiety issues that like to rear their ugly head when I'm tripping. I don't always take it, but I wont trip without knowing it's available.
UnSquare
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I Also "Also Think Benzos Are Possibly The Most Dangerous Class Of Drugs In Disguise"
Jus' wanna tack on another + that you
really,
really,
really,
really
don' wanna go through
alprazolam wif'drawl.
If you have anxiety problems,
and/or are prone to addictive depressant use,
jus' stay the fuck away.
They work too well,
& will probably end up ownin' you.
Makes DT's feel like a fuckin' cakewalk.
Capt'n Redleader,
as usual,
nailed it in his post.
Here's a great site which is oft mention'd
round here for more info
on why you don't wanna
get hook'd.
Benzo.org.uk.
PEACE
UnS
Jus' wanna tack on another + that you
really,
really,
really,
really
don' wanna go through
alprazolam wif'drawl.
If you have anxiety problems,
and/or are prone to addictive depressant use,
jus' stay the fuck away.
They work too well,
& will probably end up ownin' you.
Makes DT's feel like a fuckin' cakewalk.
Capt'n Redleader,
as usual,
nailed it in his post.
Here's a great site which is oft mention'd
round here for more info
on why you don't wanna
get hook'd.
Benzo.org.uk.
PEACE
UnS
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UnSquare
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miss kat said:
+10.
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