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so the old HPPD is still there, help or ideas?

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tropicalpalmtree

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me, 19, so after a shroom trip on boxing day last year I woke up a few days later with the hppd. it scared the shit out of me and along with the tinnitus I had (hardly noticeable now) shit went real downhill both mentally and physically. in the past nine months I feel that I have improved in how I feel and the anxiety has gone but the depression is still there just because I feel that the hppd is holding me back and that this is not normal. my symptoms have been as follows:

-snow vision (not to bad in the day or don't pay attention but its there when its there constant :p)
-white colours seem bright
-blue field entoptic phenomenon (blue or white cloudy sky appears as thousands of sguiggly dots, this is the worst of the symptoms from my perspective:\)
-negative/positive afterimages
-floaters
-short trails from light

been clean from heavy drugs for a while now, smoke bud occasionally but drink heavily which probably don't help at all.

chilli peppers

but to anyone with it though don't know if you've ever tried this, a few weeks back I was getting scotch bonnet chilli peppers from where I work (hot as fuck), and eating them for a laugh (3 to be precise), and the next day I woke up and my vision seemed to normalise somewhat, it wasn't anything near clear vision but what was thousands of dots turned into lesser fainter dots, the snow vision diminished a little bit (my visual problems have remained pretty constant from the start so was different), I actually stood outside and looked at the sky and felt at ease(as I mentioned the blue field is what affectes me most) but what followed was another night of getting smashed with my friends and was back to how it was. was really curious though, don't know if anyone else gets blue field but ive brought some naga's for the laugh and see if it helps again.

what I really want to achieve from this post is help, remedies, ideas how to make it better or less noticeable, your experience with it and how long it lasted before you really 'recovered'. as much as ive tried to get used to it I just want it gone so I can carry on with my life

comments appreciated, thanks.
 
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Hi tropical,

I have HPPD myself and have had it for maybe 5 years now. I have all the symptoms you describe as well as 'morphing' or 'rippling' effects on flat surfaces. Floaters however are a completely normal thing and people who have never tried psychedelics will still have this visual artifact (Floaters Wiki). Scheerer's phenomenon (Blue Field) is also a common thing, although it may be exceptionally amplified for you.

That interesting about the chillies. I wonder if they have something in them that alleviates the symptoms. I personally have found that diazepam will almost completely negate my symptoms. Tiredness will amplify the HPPD, so regular sleeping patterns may help keeping the symptoms minimal.
 
Hi tropical, from what I understand you only did mushroom once? If you haven't then you should recover. I won't be able to give u a timeline but what I can say is give it some mote time.

I know some people who have had hppd but they abused mdma/ecstasy but they recovered after a year or so. If you say you are getting better then you should see this as a positive thing. I know how it feels to be frustrated as I am also experiencing that with my symptom, but we pissed our brains off and it is fixing itself. Just do everything you can to make it better for you. Goodluck!
 
thanks for the reply mate, 5 years? don't sound too good is it easier to deal with now though? yeah look directly at blank white wall n get that rippling effect aswell and yeah I know but what I see isn't something the average human should see, kinda fucked up but not much I can do now, n yeah heard people using that but not easy to get hold of here (UK) without going doctors and all that bullshit. n believe me bout them chillies mate, the day after aswell so maybe the capsaicin helps the symptoms? Im gonna try the naga (deadly) and see if that helps, if it does this could be a breakthrough hahahaha peace
 
I've never had this happen beyond the next day. So it was just a few weeks ago this happened? I've read sometimes doctors can treat it with different medications to lesson the visual effects.

Wasn't your mouth burning from those peppers? Those things are hot. And what's naga, another pepper?
 
twice mate but it was the crimbo night trip that I think could have started it and I abused mdma in powder and pill but crazy thing hppd so who knows what could have started it, and I really hope I do, if people recover after a year then that a good thing to hear in my books and something to bear in mind, what symptoms are you experiencing? and yeah trying to cut down the bud to completely drug sober but still drink. cheers man :)
 
Yeah it's easier to deal with and doesn't impact my day to day life much anymore. I have terrible sleeping patterns so I'm constantly tired and that makes the symptoms much, much worse as well. I just learned to live with it as there isn't much that can be done about it.

I don't understand what you meant by naga's either (unless you meant the Naga Viper Pepper or Red Naga Chillies), what are they?
 
was crazy mate like they has lessened all round, n don't really want to go doctors about it anymore wouldn't listen to me so gave up on that front, n yeah man killing they are hot n NAGA JOLOKAI GHOST CHILLIES they are the hottest in the world have it in smaller quantities n see if there is any decent result
 
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twice mate but it was the crimbo night trip that I think could have started it and I abused mdma in powder and pill but crazy thing hppd so who knows what could have started it, and I really hope I do, if people recover after a year then that a good thing to hear in my books and something to bear in mind, what symptoms are you experiencing? and yeah trying to cut down the bud to completely drug sober but still drink. cheers man :)
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Mine is slight head pressure and weird moving sensations in my head. Got it 24/7 but there r days that it gets really bad and frustrating. I have read that hppd and tinitus ate caused by anxiety and the drug use might have triggered anxiety in us that manifested in different ways.
 
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