bennyZA
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I was just trying to show an extreme situation. It's not like it hasn't happened. I know a guy who tried to rob the dealer and ended up in the icy for a month and nearly died.
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I was just trying to show an extreme situation. It's not like it hasn't happened. I know a guy who tried to rob the dealer and ended up in the icy for a month and nearly died.
El Barto
Bluelighter
yeah, is uncommon but not that uncommon, it can happen
once, i was on a house of a gypsie woman, i used to go there, everything clean and fast, good h, money and leave in one minute ( good H because it was around 2001)
Once, i went there, inside the house ( she was out of the door of the house, just two metres), then im inside, turn head: around 10 g of really good H, not to mention the coce. She didnt realize i was inside
around my head a mindthinking "take it". I didnt.I shouted the gypsie "hey".
out of the house, there were trhree gypsies more, young, i didnt realize before entering
conclussion: if i had stealen that, and i got taken--> me badly beaten
jonkie bed stories ( im sure close to any addict has had some similar thinking)
once, i was on a house of a gypsie woman, i used to go there, everything clean and fast, good h, money and leave in one minute ( good H because it was around 2001)
Once, i went there, inside the house ( she was out of the door of the house, just two metres), then im inside, turn head: around 10 g of really good H, not to mention the coce. She didnt realize i was inside
around my head a mindthinking "take it". I didnt.I shouted the gypsie "hey".
out of the house, there were trhree gypsies more, young, i didnt realize before entering
conclussion: if i had stealen that, and i got taken--> me badly beaten
jonkie bed stories ( im sure close to any addict has had some similar thinking)
bennyZA
Bluelighter
Oh yea. I've stolen others people's shit for sure. Never 10g's, but that's because I never saw it. One dude robbed me in my own house, I wasn't a dealer, but my buddy who knew the guy better was so pissed he firebombed his car and beat the shit out of his people and the dude had to go into hiding...
Like you said, junkie bed time stories. The reason I said it is because there really is not limit to how bad things can get when you're an addict.
Did anyone else notice that his other thread he started was a question about weed that only a total beginner would ask. My theory is that he's a young kid that found a certain website and just started getting random shit because he thought drugs were cool. When everyone told him he shouldn't do what he's planning on doing he got mad and thought we were just being jack asses. I highly, highly doubt he heeded our warnings. If he did, he would have told us he decided not to do the heroin. Considering he didn't want to heed our warnings, and thought we were probably exaggerating, I wouldn't be surprised if he did something really, really stupid. Who does heroin right after starting to smoke weed. It took me years and years just to work up the courage to try vicodin.
His name is a very bad omen.
Like you said, junkie bed time stories. The reason I said it is because there really is not limit to how bad things can get when you're an addict.
Did anyone else notice that his other thread he started was a question about weed that only a total beginner would ask. My theory is that he's a young kid that found a certain website and just started getting random shit because he thought drugs were cool. When everyone told him he shouldn't do what he's planning on doing he got mad and thought we were just being jack asses. I highly, highly doubt he heeded our warnings. If he did, he would have told us he decided not to do the heroin. Considering he didn't want to heed our warnings, and thought we were probably exaggerating, I wouldn't be surprised if he did something really, really stupid. Who does heroin right after starting to smoke weed. It took me years and years just to work up the courage to try vicodin.
His name is a very bad omen.
Emily29707
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Who? Someone like me.
And you might not believe it but there many others too. Imagine someone who has no knowledge of drugs, hasn't taken any and they see some people blissfully high on heroin. And those people tell them, "it's OK, it's safe, I promise. Try it once and see for yourself." All I needed was one little crisis in my life, one reason to need to escape for just a little while. So I tried it. And loved it. And when I came on here and asked some questions I was talked down to, ridiculed....some people accused me of being a fake. All because those of you who are professional, life long druggies can't fathom how someone could start off on heroin without first cycling through all the other drugs first.
I actually had someone tell me that- you need to start with other opiates before you can do heroin.
I'm sorry- I don't mean to paint everyone here as being a jerk. Truth is, many of the people here were/are kind and helpful. But I think sometimes that when people have so much experience they just don't understand how it's possible that heroin abuse can occur without it following a certain path.
bennyZA
Bluelighter
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be an ass, at all. Not going to lie though, but going straight to heroin is a very, very bad sign. I don't know anyone who did heroin as their first or second drug and then not get addicted to it or other drugs pretty quickly. However, I knew plenty of people who did heroin after trying a lot of the less addictive drugs and then never really had drug problems. You might be different but this is just my experience. It all depends heavily on circumstances though.
I guess I was kinda exaggerating about the vicodin. I tried it at 15, and it wasn't that I was scared before that, I really just didn't know what vicodin was. I did know what heroin was, but barely. People are going to do what people are going to do, but better people espouse its negatives than its "safety." It's never good to ridicule someone but it is better than telling them that it's "ok, safe, I promise, this is how you do it right..." It is a harm reduction forum. The life long "professional" druggies (odd choice of words, but whatever) lives' are so fucked up (most of them, mine for example) that it's hard for us to hear about people doing heroin as their first drug and not think "wtf, stop while you can." It's not hard to fathom, it's just hard to read it and not scoff at it.
Anyways, I'm really, really not trying to be a dick, at all. I guess I'm just trying to explain my p.o.v. as a "professional" druggie.
I guess I was kinda exaggerating about the vicodin. I tried it at 15, and it wasn't that I was scared before that, I really just didn't know what vicodin was. I did know what heroin was, but barely. People are going to do what people are going to do, but better people espouse its negatives than its "safety." It's never good to ridicule someone but it is better than telling them that it's "ok, safe, I promise, this is how you do it right..." It is a harm reduction forum. The life long "professional" druggies (odd choice of words, but whatever) lives' are so fucked up (most of them, mine for example) that it's hard for us to hear about people doing heroin as their first drug and not think "wtf, stop while you can." It's not hard to fathom, it's just hard to read it and not scoff at it.
Anyways, I'm really, really not trying to be a dick, at all. I guess I'm just trying to explain my p.o.v. as a "professional" druggie.
Emily29707
Bluelighter
I wasn't picking on you specifically. Yours was just the last post so I went with that.
Maybe I shouldn't post when I'm feeling bitchy
The point I was trying to make with my "professional druggie" comment was that some people are so knowledgable about these things and sometimes they can't understand why someone like the original poster (or myself) would do the things we do because it doesn't make sense to them.
And I probably wasn't clear when I said that people told me that "it's OK, it's safe, I promise." I wasn't referring to anyone on this forum. I was referring to the wonderful people who were there in my life who gave me the heroin. Just wanted to clear that up- nobody here ever told me what I was doing was OK.
bennyZA
Bluelighter
I feel you on that, but if people come on this forum to ask what the OP asked, it is better to not say anything remotely like that. I think 99.9% wouldn't say anything like that either. In regards to the professional druggie thing not being able to understand heroin being the first drug. It's not that we (I feel sick saying we, but it's true) can't fathom it, it's just like a slap to the face almost. I just keep thinking in my head: "What has the OP said! No, no, no, no, no... please, omg, why!!! Welcome to the dark side young one."
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
While it is rare that someone make the jump straight to heroin without having done other drugs, unfortunately, I've seen it plenty of times. This girl I dated for a while, before she was with me, her last piece of shit boyfriend, got her hooked on H at a young age and she hadn't even tried weed before. She was a green as they come and not only graduated straight to H, but also got on the needle immediately as well. It's a sad thing but it happens a lot.
This is an awesome post! This is the truth, sad but so fricking true. The only thing i can add is detoxing in jail....my son has done that a couple of times & each time he swears he will stay clean no matter what. He begged for some pepto & of course the CO could have cared less. Left alone in a cell 23 hours a day on suicide watch puking & shitting himself at the same time....yep, that's the life of a junkie.
SoonAJunkie...thats what is in store for you...Believe it because it's the Truth.
crzydiamond
Bluelighter
^ agreed. Very good post, it's the stark truth. A well written summation of the life of a heroin addict, including the recovery n relapse, etc ...
If only there was a "like" button...
If only there was a "like" button...
bennyZA
Bluelighter
Why thank you. I write for a living so it's nice to hear that I did good! You probably are like "wtf, this dude writes for a living, but his posts are so shitty!"
crzydiamond
Bluelighter
^ no I actually can see it. It's a great post. "How to become a heroin addict in 20 easy steps!"
Can you see that for an essay title lol?
I've lived the life. But never quite saw anyone break it down like that. But, lol, have you been following me the past xx years??
Joking aside, it should be required reading for all new IV heroin users
But, unfortunately, I think it can truly be only appreciated in hindsight
Can you see that for an essay title lol?
I've lived the life. But never quite saw anyone break it down like that. But, lol, have you been following me the past xx years??
Joking aside, it should be required reading for all new IV heroin users
But, unfortunately, I think it can truly be only appreciated in hindsight
bennyZA
Bluelighter
Quote of the year right there. It is so true. If the OP does end up becoming a junkie (which might be what he wants 8)) he might one day, one sad day, come back on here and look at my post (well, this whole thread actually) and break down in tears. No matter how many times I was warned, I never listened. I knew what I was getting into the first time I bought OC, but I - like most - never thought it would happen to me. I almost feel like this thread should be sticky, not because of the information, but because it shows the raw "anger" of those addicts who can see the misery that is addiction start in a young man. Just by seeing the responses a potential addict might see this thread one day, read the posts, then maybe, just maybe, will not go down the dark road we've all had to/are traveling.
Again, thank you for the kind words about my post. I was in a pharmacy waiting for my fentanyl refill when I wrote it. I was sitting there shaking, nervously waiting for my prescription so I could run into the bathroom and put a patch on. When I saw that he wrote "who cares" and "I don't plan of being an addict" I wanted him to know that he wasn't special and that it easy - so easy - to become and junkie. I hoped, and I still do, that he would read it and then realize that my scenario is not that far-fetched.
bunge
Bluelighter
Ive seen this story played out too many times, it really does shake your faith in humanity but i like to think that Bluelight is like the flipside of that coin.
Ignorance is a really bad thing for a drug user to have; ignorance and being unwilling to be educated, is usually lethal.
^It is remarkable the ignorance of the vast majority of drug users and abusers. I don't know another user who comes even close to knowing what I know and its not like I am the end all of information on drug use. I have a friend who I will tell him things about certain drugs and he has said before that I do too much reading and stuff on it. Well I'd much rather over educate myself on what I am doing to my body than foolishly ingest things with know idea what it actually is doing to me.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
Combating this exact problem is why BL exists and the reason we've worked so hard to me OD the way it is. The hope is that somebody views these threads and saves their own life.
bunge
Bluelighter
RTrain, i hear you 100% on trying to educate friends, them saying i 'worry' too much and 'just take it, whats the worst that could happen?' just drove me on to find more facts and present it to them.
Now, because i always had the info they needed, they have started to come to me and ask me HR questions. I recently had a massive ego boost when a friend came to me with a couple of questions about the codeine he had been prescribed that day.
They were pretty simple questions about side effects and dependance and i said "didnt you ask your doctor when they prescribed it?" to which he replied "the doctor just tells me not to worry and i dont trust em, but you tell me all the facts so i feel safer".
So, a massive ego boost (with a dose of embarrassment.lol) and suddenly it was all worth it. You just got to stick at it mate, if you get through to just one person with good HR advice then it all feels worth it. :-D
mr.scagnattie, my feelings echo yours exactly. I used to browse loads of drug use related forums and felt that something was missing in each one; After finding bluelight i realized what was missing..harm reduction.
Lots of forums talk about (and glorify) drug use but only bluelight consistantly gives out solid, thoughtful advice that has helped me out numerous times.
All of us, even the seasoned drug users, are walking a dangerous line with the substances we use but with BL always there and full of great people with the best advice, ive no doubt lives are saved that would otherwise be lost to ignorance.
Sorry about the rambling post guys, i seem to be in that frame of mind tonight!lol
Now, because i always had the info they needed, they have started to come to me and ask me HR questions. I recently had a massive ego boost when a friend came to me with a couple of questions about the codeine he had been prescribed that day.
They were pretty simple questions about side effects and dependance and i said "didnt you ask your doctor when they prescribed it?" to which he replied "the doctor just tells me not to worry and i dont trust em, but you tell me all the facts so i feel safer".
So, a massive ego boost (with a dose of embarrassment.lol) and suddenly it was all worth it. You just got to stick at it mate, if you get through to just one person with good HR advice then it all feels worth it. :-D
mr.scagnattie, my feelings echo yours exactly. I used to browse loads of drug use related forums and felt that something was missing in each one; After finding bluelight i realized what was missing..harm reduction.
Lots of forums talk about (and glorify) drug use but only bluelight consistantly gives out solid, thoughtful advice that has helped me out numerous times.
All of us, even the seasoned drug users, are walking a dangerous line with the substances we use but with BL always there and full of great people with the best advice, ive no doubt lives are saved that would otherwise be lost to ignorance.
Sorry about the rambling post guys, i seem to be in that frame of mind tonight!lol
^Well its funny because some things I look at as basic knowledge, when told about to friends, is treated by the friends like its amazing I would know such things. I know the friend I have who commented I do too much research actually is happy to listen to the stuff I tell him and asks me about certain things, what they do, how much to take and interactions with other drugs/alcohol. He also has , AFAIK, managed to avoid severe dependence to any drugs, even though he dabbles quite often(& in larger single doses than myself). And he knows I have dependence issues and is more relating my knowledge to myself letting drugs absorb my life. To that extent he is right, the infatuation to him is probably evidence to how I clearly can't stay away.
bunge
Bluelighter
Well, i would say that drugs for some of us are a passion rather then just an interest.
For me personally its just the way i am, whenever i gain a real interest in a subject, it will quickly become a massive quest for more information on that subject and the use of drugs is such a wide-ranging subject that the information quest is never really done.
I have interests in drugs that i dont do myself anymore (like the amps and cocaine) and have never done (some opiates), so an interest doesnt always indicate problematic use.
I think the biggest gain (some of) us more seasoned drug users get through our passion for and experience of altered consciousness, is harm reduction practices.
Thats why bluelight is so important, it allows us to share this knowledge with a wider base of people and hopefully improve the typical drug user image of someone who is selfish, immoral and doesnt contribute in a meaningful way to wider society.
For me personally its just the way i am, whenever i gain a real interest in a subject, it will quickly become a massive quest for more information on that subject and the use of drugs is such a wide-ranging subject that the information quest is never really done.
I have interests in drugs that i dont do myself anymore (like the amps and cocaine) and have never done (some opiates), so an interest doesnt always indicate problematic use.
I think the biggest gain (some of) us more seasoned drug users get through our passion for and experience of altered consciousness, is harm reduction practices.
Thats why bluelight is so important, it allows us to share this knowledge with a wider base of people and hopefully improve the typical drug user image of someone who is selfish, immoral and doesnt contribute in a meaningful way to wider society.
I don't necessarily agree with my friend's insinuation that my interest in drugs is a sign of my drug problems. I just think that is how he views it. This particular friend is known for having dick-headed comments so you kinda have to shrug them off. A bit ignorant, too, as I have tried to make the point that alcohol is a hell of a lot worse for you than opiates when used regularly (he is a heavy drinker, not to he has a family history of diabetes and his mother almost died while on dialysis and recently got a kidney transplant). But like so many people they apparently think our govt is looking out for us and wouldn't offer a legal substance that is far more unhealthy than so many illegal substances.
I also enjoy reading about many things I have never tried and am not personally interested in trying.
I also enjoy reading about many things I have never tried and am not personally interested in trying.
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