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Are there any studies or even opinions as to how a SNRI can cause significant closed eye visuals?
 
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Wow, well, you go out and find some anecdotal evidence and then we can talk.
 
Call me a cynical old twat, but it sounds more like an HPPD exacerbation from othewr psychedelics rather than being the primary cause of the visuals. Unless there's some corroberration of this effect, I'll either transfer or euthanase this thread in the next few days
 
....feels like phosphene/migraine-y type patterny/blotches to me. I think effexor is an SNRI- that shit sucked. Anyway- some weird activation of seratonin receptros probably causes the phosphene-like blotchy spoltches.

I bet thats the first time blotchy-splotches has been written in ADD ;)
 
well to be absolutely fair bupropion(wellbutrin) is an snri and is structurally similar to a phenethylamine(does this make it a phenethylamine? I'm kind of rusty on this stuff), and I have read some trip reports on erowid of nuckleheads tripping on this stuff, but you know how that goes 8)


but like I said, just wanted to be fair! :p


and -edit- I think technically bupropion is more of a SDRI?
 
johanneschimpo: I believe the S stands for selective: SSRI = Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor.
 
I'm aware of that. The dude above said buproprion was a SDRI - in this case, he meant serotonin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor. I corrected him (where I said "the term would be...") by stating that its a norepinephrine/dopamine reuptake inhibitor. Not serotonin.
Nowhere did I even use the term SSRI.
 
melange said:
well to be absolutely fair bupropion(wellbutrin) is an snri and is structurally similar to a phenethylamine(does this make it a phenethylamine? I'm kind of rusty on this stuff)
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as long as it contains the Phenethylamine core, it is considered one. in the same regards of how, lets say LSD, Psilocybin and DMT are considered tryptamines because they all contain the 'tryptamine' core.
 
Then why is LSD in Tihkal? Did shulgin just flip a coin and was like--I will put it in Tihkal, or was there some logic to his madness.

Also, I have known for some people to get CEVs on antidepressants. However, they usually aren't typical CEVs nor are they pleasant. (Usually weird spots appearing on walls or things like that...) I have definitely had weird effects on effexor where I started seeing patterns on the wall, and that was before I had ever taken psychadellics. However, they were probably due to sleep deprivation+tachnicardia+too much norepinephrine in my system and were probably closer to a speed psychosis than a psychadelic experience.
 
One of my friends told me he gets minor visuals from Prozac (or maybe it was something else? I'll have to ask). He said he was looking about his room as he was getting ready for bed, and noticed slightly breathing walls as well as a floating laptop.
 
SynAmnesia said:
Then why is LSD in Tihkal? Did shulgin just flip a coin and was like--I will put it in Tihkal, or was there some logic to his madness.
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so is harmine yohimbine, tetrahydroisoquinolines, and various histamines along with ibogaine, are they tryptamines too?

this is a pointless categorisation, as if all tryptamines and all phenthylamines have some inherent qualities. if categorising things into boxes is your thing then LSD is an ergolene.
 
^ hmm i guess it's a broader unofficial way to categorize. maybe if you only count the certain simple compunds based around their respective cores. i still like to refer to LSD as a tryptamine. dont be mad! haha
 
Bupropion is a cathinone. You should probably use the most accurate categorization possible.

Otherwise terribly unrelated things start getting included.
 
Pedant man stgrikes again...

Bupropion is probably best described as a beta-keyo phenethylamine IMO as that allows for the inclusion of things like MDPV. Cathinones sort of limits it to a 3 carbon side chain

Just ignore my pickyness, I need sleep badly :\
 
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