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Heroin sniffing H

Word. Well, you get the picture. Just remember it isn't coke. I used to do epic amounts of coke and one day I just stopped as well. It's not like that with heroin. Once I started I couldn't stop, when I tried, it made me sad that I couldn't and I would do more. I've never been the same since. Not a day goes by that I don't think about it. If you decided to pursue heroin as a cure to your boredom that's it, no turning back. You can't just use heroin until it's no longer fun and move on. It doesn't work like that. I understand that you're bored, but there are better drugs to occupy your time with that you can move away from eventually.
 
i dont know anything about H to be honest but i do know i dont what to get into IVing,,,if i can feel good by bumping raw then thats the route ill go with.. i love the opiate high and hate the cocaine high so im assuming the H will be blissful experience and right up my alley

Famous last words of every IV user of H....;)
 
Bordem is a dangerous thing.. it's what makes a lot of people turn to drugs, or turn back to them after being clean..

You need to find better ways of occupying your time. I know the feeling very well.
 
I forget who said it, but coke addiction and heroin addiction are different. Coke addiction is like you sniff some and you want more, and repeat and repeat. Heroin addiction is you sniff some, youre high, you fall asleep, then tomorrow you want more, and repeat and repeat. If you can stop the coke, or you run out, generally the fiendishness goes away.
 
hehehe.... Dont ask people like me. Snorting is a waste of good dope; heroin abuse of you ask me. the needle gives you a rush never before seen
 
I watched a documentary earlier about Heroin and of course they covered all the negative shit, but they also talked about Portugal, where it is 100% legal and even have clinics set up where addicts can come in and fix for free, the govt actually GIVES them the dope( and needle)!!! and even provide little semi-private booths to fix in. the idea is making it legal gets rid of the crime element. I SOOOOO wish the US would take this route! Maybe in another 20-30 yrs??? before you laugh, when I was in high school (1994), I would have never thought pot was on the cusp on being legal, so you never know what the future holds.

Plus, if its totally legal, that kind of negates all the negative shit, the constant risk of police involvement, paying $180 a gram, trying to come up with money every day,never know what your shit has been cut with, or how much dope you are actually getting, etc. Portugal has solved all these problems!

I considered moving to Portugal just for the dope, but its probably alot of red tape and with no job over there and little money here, it may be a pipe dream, but something to think about if you love H enough. They showed the H too, it was liquid and crystal clear, just like water, so its probably not cut with anything either! Needless to say, there was alot of people that stand in line here every day, dont blame them either, I would be in that line at 4am!!!

made me wonder what company is mass producing this crystal clear liquid H...Geez, talk about a MAJOR gold mine!!! LOL...if only legal in the US though...
 
Anybody who goes into H thinking they are really going to just "try it one time" is fooling themselves.

Seriously, how arrogant is it to think that out of all the millions of people addicted to dope, that you would be any different?

It's one of the most addictive drugs for a reason... there is no just "doing it once".

Sorry but I completely disagree with this. Not everybody enjoys heroin, I happen to know at least a handful of people that tried dope once or twice and never did it again, one I am sure would do it again if I offered it to them for free again but I know for a fact they would never pay for it, the rest simply did not enjoy the effect and would never do it again.

I seem to recall reading somewhere a couple of years ago that only 20-25% of heroin users become addicts, I wish I could remember where. I wont quote that as a fact but I would be surprised if even 50% of those who tried it become addicts, particularly full blown type addicts. As I shared earlier in this thread I first used heroin about 8 years ago and despite the fact that I enjoy it and have continued to use it I have ZERO problem regulating its use, none whatsoever, despite having problems regulating my use of other drugs like alcohol or methamphetamine.

Of course heroin is addictive but it kind of irks me how often I see people that have been addicts themselves either implying or outright claiming as a fact that nobody can do heroin and not do it again, or nobody can use heroin regularly and not become an addict, the fact is either situation is possible and just because YOU had an issue with self control does not mean everybody else will. You mention it is arrogant for someone to think they can use and not become addicted because there are a lot of heroin addicts, to me it seems more arrogant to presume that because you and others became addicted that everybody else will.

I don't recommend that people go out and try heroin but it is counterproductive to overplay the risks in my opinion.
 
never mind some statistic you can't remember. trying and using are very different. if someone regularly uses heroin, they will become addicted. chip on and off for years; eventually there's a line.
 
Amen. Before a brand new user can make comment about vet's responses they need to read - and interact - with people on this site before they can say things like that.

How about he says whatever the fuck he wants to say? He doesn't need to read and interact with others on BL to form an opinion, his life experiences probably serve him well.

Listen, op sniff the H, don't sniff the H its up to you. Chances are its going to feel good. If you dont want to get into IV-ing then dont, but if you do and then get addicted like a lot of people, then thats on you.
 
Sorry but I completely disagree with this. Not everybody enjoys heroin, I happen to know at least a handful of people that tried dope once or twice and never did it again, one I am sure would do it again if I offered it to them for free again but I know for a fact they would never pay for it, the rest simply did not enjoy the effect and would never do it again.

I seem to recall reading somewhere a couple of years ago that only 20-25% of heroin users become addicts, I wish I could remember where. I wont quote that as a fact but I would be surprised if even 50% of those who tried it become addicts, particularly full blown type addicts. As I shared earlier in this thread I first used heroin about 8 years ago and despite the fact that I enjoy it and have continued to use it I have ZERO problem regulating its use, none whatsoever, despite having problems regulating my use of other drugs like alcohol or methamphetamine.

Of course heroin is addictive but it kind of irks me how often I see people that have been addicts themselves either implying or outright claiming as a fact that nobody can do heroin and not do it again, or nobody can use heroin regularly and not become an addict, the fact is either situation is possible and just because YOU had an issue with self control does not mean everybody else will. You mention it is arrogant for someone to think they can use and not become addicted because there are a lot of heroin addicts, to me it seems more arrogant to presume that because you and others became addicted that everybody else will.

I don't recommend that people go out and try heroin but it is counterproductive to overplay the risks in my opinion.
IDK about what you said...with the way Heroin works on the brains receptors, I would find it hard to believe ANYONE could take it and not enjoy it, producing mass amounts of serotonin and dopamine in the brain at once, produces great feelings...in everyone, so unless a person had some kind of defect, it is hard to believe someone could NOT like heroin.

I dont believe the 20-25% numbers, Id like to see that study and how they came up with those figures (Im not saying I dont believe you, I just dont trust the people who came up with the numbers) Ive met ALOT of people that use Heroin and never met anyone who could maintain any kind of life while using it...eventually it gets control over everyone, it just may take a bit longer with some people though.
 
I think its safe to say just about everyone will feel positive effects after taking heroin at least to some degree.

from my personal experience, I didnt even think I had a problem until I looked at my recent calls one day and it was just like "drug dealer, drug dealer, brother, drug dealer, work, drug dealer, etc..."

and im the last person who would tell anyone what to do, but id highly recommend avoiding heroin and opiates in general
 
I think the figure was 25% of all people who TRY heroin become addicted. Plenty of people try heroin in the heat of the moment, or out of peer pressure, not because they have been fantasizing about it for days, weeks or years before trying it. Also, some of those, spur of the moment first time users might get the dosage wrong, so either not getting the full feeling, OR doing too much and becoming nauseous, hugging the toilet.

Anyone who tries heroin on their own though, who has been obsessing over it, is doomed, IMHO
 
the first couple of times doing heroin are really unpleasant for a lot of people. Maybe 25% will do it again and again, but a lot of people the nausea is too much. Once you feel what most addicts feel though, it's very hard to go back.
 
My first time was too good. I only did a tiny bit because i was afraid of it, even though I'd wanted to try it for years. I was afraid of ODing. But once I felt it, i couldn't believe there was a drug that could make you feel that way.

The next few months of use i threw up every time, but i didn't care-i was so high, i felt so good, that puking was a minor inconvenience.

Then i got addicted & went to the needle. But that wont happen to you of course. You're different :)
 
never mind some statistic you can't remember. trying and using are very different. if someone regularly uses heroin, they will become addicted. chip on and off for years; eventually there's a line.

Did you miss the part where I said I have been a regular user of heroin, didn't become addicted, know a couple others who used it regularly and never got hooked either, imagine that. Seriously why does everyone who had a dope habit think nobody else could possibly try this drug and not end up in the same position they did? It really comes across as arrogant and uninformed.

I have been using heroin for 8 years, it honestly could be 9 by now. There were times in that period I used it regularly, as in 3 or 4 times a week, there have been times like now where I probably use that many times a year or less. I get immense enjoyment out of opioids, however I have never had a problem with them. It isn't like I am some special guy that is immune to addiction, I am addicted to alcohol and dependent on cannabis, have come pretty close to benzo addiction and despite never being a daily meth user went through a period of a couple years where I used it as many days as I didn't and spent like every cent on it.

It just shits me how many people make claims like do heroin once and your gone, or become a regular user and you will become an addict, frankly, it is just not true. I think a lot of people who become addicted end up surrounded by other addicts and this makes them think ALL heroin users tend to be addicts. The thing is there are probably many functional and recreational users you don't encounter and are not considering. I could be in the minority, but like I said in my last post I happen to know several people who have no problem regulating their use of heroin or who tried it and outright do not enjoy it. Whether we are a minority, we exist, so it is bullshit to make this claim that everyone will become an addict.

It almost seems like some people are trying to take responsibility off themselves as though once they tried it there really was no other option than for them to become addicted. Take ownership of it, plenty of people use the stuff and don't get hooked. For the record I don't look down on addicts to heroin, or any drug for that matter, I am just a little sick of reading claims there is a guarantee you will become hooked that comes with even trying heroin (or using it regularly) on a forum that is about accurate information and harm reduction, not scare tactics. I already said I don't recommend opioid naive individuals go out and try heroin, but if they decide to there is no sense in exaggerating the likelihood of their use becoming a serious problem.

There is no sense in essentially saying "I became addicted so you most definitely will" this kind of absolute, unscientific statement doesn't have much place on Bluelight in my opinion. Fair enough to share your personal experience and relate that it could be a possibility for someone else, just don't claim that somebody you never met in your life will become a junkie just because YOU did.

Fizzymk, find it as hard to believe as you want, I know them personally and since some have turned down the offer of free gear in front of me I am confident they were not making it up. The most commonly cited reasons I hear for disliking opiates are nausea and itching. My best mate DETESTS opioids, he has never used heroin, but on the couple occasions I have dosed him with weaker opioids (high dose codeine and OxyContin) he hated it. I am positive he will never try heroin and I am equally positive if he did that he would hate it just as much as other opioids.

Methamphetamine and cocaine release dopamine too (technically cocaine inhibits its reuptake but whatever) and there are plenty of people who don't like those. Some commonly cited reasons would be the comedown, jitteryness, anxiety and the increased heart rate, if some people cannot enjoy those euphoric and addictive drugs, why would heroin be so special that people can not be turned off by its side effects?
 
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I mean if by regular use you mean every day then you will end up withdrawals which is essentially part of addiction, there are plenty of definitions of regular use that don't include every day. You don't "know" shit, you think it, because I am telling you right now you are wrong, if you weren't wrong then I would be a junkie and I am not. Obviously anybody who uses heroin every day will become addicted, I don't think there are any hard drugs this isn't the case.

Whatever your definition of regular use, there are others, therefore it is bullshit and meaningless to categorically state that regular use of heroin WILL undoubtedly result in addiction, it is just a stupid thing to say. I don't know what you get out of continuing to argue that it is the case, despite presenting zero evidence to that effect, but here we are.

"i am not nor have i ever been addicted to H. i do know that if you use it regularly, it leads to addiction. no exceptions. but whatever. everyone who has access knows this." I clearly have access to heroin, since I use it, yet I am here disagreeing with you. You clearly enjoy making blanket claims that are wrong, which must be why you are sticking to the argument regular users of heroin ALL become addicts. Is it really so hard to accept that not everything in life is black and white, everyone is different and there are exceptions to almost everything.

What I get out of stating that not everyone who uses heroin regularly will become addicted is I am trying to dispel a myth that I see perpetuated all too often on Bluelight by posters that should know better. In the interests of harm reduction I would always encourage someone to weigh the risks heavily before trying heroin, and obviously I am not saying it does not have a very high potential to cause addiction, there is no need to go beyond informing people of the facts and make hyperbolic claims that addiction is guaranteed.

At the end of the day this website is here to present people with the facts about drugs so they can make informed choices, telling people if they plan to use heroin with any degree of frequency that they will end up a junkie is not a fact, and should be confined to places where exaggeration and scare tactics are used to attempt to make people make uninformed decisions about their drug use, like anti drug propaganda websites.
 
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