CatchingTheDragon
Greenlighter
After finding out that opium was basically "dabbed" and not smoked and that opium pipes were like an old school dome and nail in many ways, I googled if people were dabbing black tar.... I found this thread and several other like it that told me, yes, people have done it, and no, its not a total waste- might even be better but generally in conclusive...
I figured it probably couldnt be worse than the foil I was already using (might even be safer) but everyone knows that dope is quite soluable in water, so I built myself a small "mouthpiece" attachment for my nail where the waterpipe usually goes, creating a tiny, water free, "opium pipe" I could use to do ti nail hits of black tar..
I discovered that if taken at a high temp (glowing nail) it is roughly as effective as tin foil.....BUT-if taken slowly at a lower temp, the bioavailability seemed to be greatly raised as the dope seems far more potent and kicks in much harder/faster (for me). My assumption is that I was vaporizing much more of it than I was burning it when dabbed at a lower temperature. this seems to be backed up by a larger amount of crispy burnt cut/residue left behind on the nail when done at a low temp (a taste taste noted no bitter flavor in the remaining residue so opiate content seemed negligible)
This became my new ROA of choice as I do not shoot, have a permanent sinus infection from putting dirty tar-water in my nose, have fucked up intestines that prevent me from absorbing drugs rectally, and am developing lung problems at 26 from 14 years of smoking alot of weird shit.
At first all seemed great....
But now, a few months in, while it is still the best, seemingly safest option, the heat/acidity of the smoke/vapor is taking its toll on my lungs.... I need a way to cool it down and filter some of the bullshit out.
I have three ideas I wanted to run by yall in the BL community...
1: get a digital ph tester and some simple household base, reattach the bubbler part of my dope apperatus and put water in with a ph of exactly 9.1. this is, if Im not mistaken, the ph at which morphine (and I would presume its diacytl counterpart no?) is not at all soluable in water... This would not prevent dope loss from normal cooling and settling in the water/ larger pipe, but could be minimized by using warm/hot water with a 9.1 ph instead of cold, dissolving more cut into the water but also preventing as much condensation of unabsorbed morphine vapor as possible?
2. same question but with oil instead of slightly basic water
3. either of the above two suggestions, or just regular old water, whichever would work best even if it would waste a lot....... but I drink the water afterword or when I'm desperate.... probably would happen even if it wasnt a waste.. any possible health concerns beyond those present from snorting/smoking the same dope?
additionally, using my current waterless setup, can I cook and filter dope as if for a shot/snort and then drip the "cleaned" solution onto a glowing hot ti nail and inhale the steam like a hot nebulizer or will the dope be hydrolized/otherwise destroyed somewhere in this process?
sorry for all the questions in one post, but theyre all so similar I didnt want to have to keep posting "but what about x" after each answer I got
I figured it probably couldnt be worse than the foil I was already using (might even be safer) but everyone knows that dope is quite soluable in water, so I built myself a small "mouthpiece" attachment for my nail where the waterpipe usually goes, creating a tiny, water free, "opium pipe" I could use to do ti nail hits of black tar..
I discovered that if taken at a high temp (glowing nail) it is roughly as effective as tin foil.....BUT-if taken slowly at a lower temp, the bioavailability seemed to be greatly raised as the dope seems far more potent and kicks in much harder/faster (for me). My assumption is that I was vaporizing much more of it than I was burning it when dabbed at a lower temperature. this seems to be backed up by a larger amount of crispy burnt cut/residue left behind on the nail when done at a low temp (a taste taste noted no bitter flavor in the remaining residue so opiate content seemed negligible)
This became my new ROA of choice as I do not shoot, have a permanent sinus infection from putting dirty tar-water in my nose, have fucked up intestines that prevent me from absorbing drugs rectally, and am developing lung problems at 26 from 14 years of smoking alot of weird shit.
At first all seemed great....
But now, a few months in, while it is still the best, seemingly safest option, the heat/acidity of the smoke/vapor is taking its toll on my lungs.... I need a way to cool it down and filter some of the bullshit out.
I have three ideas I wanted to run by yall in the BL community...
1: get a digital ph tester and some simple household base, reattach the bubbler part of my dope apperatus and put water in with a ph of exactly 9.1. this is, if Im not mistaken, the ph at which morphine (and I would presume its diacytl counterpart no?) is not at all soluable in water... This would not prevent dope loss from normal cooling and settling in the water/ larger pipe, but could be minimized by using warm/hot water with a 9.1 ph instead of cold, dissolving more cut into the water but also preventing as much condensation of unabsorbed morphine vapor as possible?
2. same question but with oil instead of slightly basic water
3. either of the above two suggestions, or just regular old water, whichever would work best even if it would waste a lot....... but I drink the water afterword or when I'm desperate.... probably would happen even if it wasnt a waste.. any possible health concerns beyond those present from snorting/smoking the same dope?
additionally, using my current waterless setup, can I cook and filter dope as if for a shot/snort and then drip the "cleaned" solution onto a glowing hot ti nail and inhale the steam like a hot nebulizer or will the dope be hydrolized/otherwise destroyed somewhere in this process?
sorry for all the questions in one post, but theyre all so similar I didnt want to have to keep posting "but what about x" after each answer I got
