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smoking speed

dingleberries

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I've got a leftover point of speed from last weekend, and am eager to try smoking it. How do i go about this? I dont have access to any sort of glass-smoking paraphenalia (ie a crackpipe). I've asked around and friends have suggested just wacking some in a cone of gunja, they say it works fine that way.
I'm a bit hesitant about the "chasing the dragon" method because of burning aluminium fumes... is there a safe way to do it?
I do have a butane lighter, as I believe it must be vaporised, right?
The speed is yellow and gooey, almost impossible to snort. Tried cutting it with glucose last week, it still burned like the fires of hell, so i ended up ingesting sublingually.
I do have a metal pipe, used for choof, with a mesh... will that suffice?
[ 11 October 2002: Message edited by: dingleberries ]
 
If you want to try it easily, make a snow-cone... put a few grains of speed on top of a small cone of choof and smoke as normal. Speed can be rather addictive when smoked.
BigTrancer :)
 
Also, if it's not reasonably close to being pure, they other crap mixed in with it will burn black and create foul tasting smoke that's probably really really bad for you... so before torching a whole lot of it, try a tiny bit and see if it creates filthy smoke or not...
Other than that, as BT said, be careful. It's a very addictive method and often you don't realise exactly how much you've had. :)
 
You can do the American method - get a lightbulb, break off the top, put in your speed, seal the top with some glad wrape, punch a hole through it with a straw, heat from underneath... then breath in through the straw.
I think there are detailed instructions in the Other Drugs forum
 
why not just buy a crack pipe? i guess it is a reasonably large investment, if you find out you don't like it. they cost about $20 from most bong shops. it's basically just a glass pipe.
*insert standard yadda yadda warning message about the dangers of meth here*
 
Your choof pipe won't work because when your smoking speed you want to vapourise it not burn it, this is why you need a glass pipe. The lightbulb method will suffice if you just want to try it but take heed of the above warnings. It works best with the purer, crystal form of meth but it is a very very addictive way of using amphetamines and you tend to lose track of how much you've ingested and take more than you should. Did someone mention this is addictive?
 
DO take care if you try with a light bulb. Although it is the cheapest method, it's not as easy as people make it sound. If you try to just break the top off, you will soon find slivers of fine glass everywhere. I recommend wearing gloves, and doing it outside or over a bin.
Also, wash it well before you smoke out of it!
 
Never tried it.
But maybe keep this in mind. One of the best pieces of advice I've taken note of with regard to amphetamines is this:
If youve taken it orally, don't smoke it and if youve smoked it don't inject it. Think I read it in a erowid trip report. (did anyone else read that one about a horny dancer on speed and have a pull over it? LOL sorry.. I really am)
Hey if you wanna go for it, a snow cone probably isn't going to hurt, but dont take my word for that... lifetimely speaking.
How bad would it be when snorting just doesnt do it for you anymore? ya need a "harder" hit to be satisfied.
 
HaVTa agree with the snowcone suggestion...
i've had 'em before and they lead to me havin a damn fine night.
WARNING: make your cones very small!... cos if you fuck up and can't finish it it burns like a the fires of hell and your left feelin rather uncomfortable with a rancid taste in your mouth. Only small sprinkles of it are needed ontop of the cone. ALso i'm sure it cant be too good for your lungs so i wouldn't take it up as a hobby.
Disclaimer: I in no way condone or encourage the use of any mind altering substanc... except NANGS!!!... Getcha nang on. [JK}
 
I've smoked speed through a normal bong with a normal lighter and it still works ok, not as good as vaporizing it though.
I bought a crack pipe the other week and smoked some pure crystal meth through it. I couldn't believe the taste! It wasn't bad at all! It worked and tasted so much better than smoking snow cones, although I haven't tried smoking powder through the crack pipe yet
 
Smoking speed (base) with tobacco will probably cause around 75% of the meth to be destroyed or transformed into other compounds. Some of these are likely to be very toxic. Smoking with grass will produce other compounds in addition to some of these. You certainly do not want to smoke anything cut. Burnt sugar smoke is definitely not good.
Check out pyrolysis products of smoked methamphetamine at the bottom of my post on this page of:
My nana can't tell an amphetamine from a methamphetamine
Smoking is so effective because the small amount which actually gets through is absorbed super fast and races straight to receptors. As with injecting, 1st pass metabolism in the liver is bypassed, meaning the concentration of a single most active compound remains higher for longer. As vapour inhalation lowers the dose response, it usually means toxicity is also increased. Although a similar thing occurs with mucous membrane absorption, this is slower and much actually ends up in your stomach anyway - subject to 1st pass.
A possible explanation for why the high seems different can be seen by comparing inhalation with the fate of Meth via oral administration. With vapour inhalation, there isn’t 1st pass metabolites to “cloud” the buzz. Many of these first metabolites are active (that’s why meth has such a long active half life) but differ in their additive effects - possibly producing more ephedrine like effects. Some speculation by Shulgin suggested PMA could be a metabolite, particularly with long term users. Shulgin thought that maybe it is PMA in heavy/ long term users that produces psychosis. I don’t know if this was ever proven, although his mechanisms seemed valid. More likely it was disproved, or we’d have heard more about it.
Vapourising speed in a crack pipe will still cause some to decompose and form other compounds. It will also cause the vapour to condensate on the glass pipe. Unless this is cleaned, each successive fill will increase the amount which deposits. As this becomes moist (condensation from heating and cooling) more will accumulate.
To get around this problem with crack, several pipes are often used. As each is used, it is cooled, scraped, placed in soapy hot water (not needed for meth salts), then clean hot water, and dried before re-using while still warm. Pipe cleaners have been said to be a base-head's best friend. Serious users’ conscious of economics may have 4-6 pipes between 2 people, as each must be thoroughly dry before reusing. Straighter pipes are reportedly easier to clean, and gausses are usually used with crack pipes. An “advantage” of smoking a meth salt over an H2O insoluble like crack, is that anything salt contaminated can in theory be used orally if it can’t be retrieved for smoking.
When it comes to measuring various forms of administration against addiction potential, I think simpledimple has the best message. It’s quite reasonable to expect going from snorting to smoking meth would have the same “morish quality” as is usually observed when someone moves on from coke to crack.
[ 13 October 2002: Message edited by: phase_dancer ]
 
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