Stimulants Smoking Ice first time... questions

[Aphex747]

^i have to agree with oral being your best bet on roa. its going to produce the most positive and smoothest experience, and not have that crash that leads to redosing and unhealthy/unproductive binges. smoking it will have that crash and can also lead to meth mouth. i find with all (or at least 90%) amphetamines, oral is the best way. i dont like putting corrosive materials in sensitive skin and membrane, stomach can handle it better. you never really hear people talk about bumming meth. lol well unless your folley

 

[MissNervosa]

nah save it for another time.
I bet that you didn't feel like this , after taking it orally.
I mean it just feels so much cleaner, stronger, longer, productive and you don't need a lot when used orally.

Absolutely! I was never a fan of smoking it and only tried it a couple of times,but I used to get very fiendy just snorting it.But doing most of it orally just let me get on with things instead of having constant bumps.

I think I've got a few more hours in me until it's benzo time,and I've got a little under half a point for next time.If I was snorting it I would've gone through a whole point by now,so I'm very pleased with myself

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Nice.
Enjoy the benzo, and try not to dive into that little you have left once the benzo kicks in. (A mistake that I have made many times)

 

[MissNervosa]

Nice.
Enjoy the benzo, and try not to dive into that little you have left once the benzo kicks in. (A mistake that I have made many times)

I've got plenty of Xanax as I'm prescribed 3-4mg a day.Good to know it's not just me that feels great again after a popping a benzo and gets going again

I have promethazine to take with the xanax,which should knock me out so I'm not tempted to do more.Lol I remember what I was like back in the day when I did amps regularly,so I got prepared,because I don't want this turning into a 24 hours or more affair!

 

[Cotillion]

I snorted a couple bumps yesterday and I can honestly say I'd rather press a lit cigarette against my testicles then ever do that again! I've been binging on coke lately so maybe the beating that's given it over the past month intensified it quite a bit. I'm talking serious burn for about 5 minutes then an irritating burn for another 15-20 minutes. Just thought I'd share and agree with everyone about oral being the best roa. I prefer to empty a capsule and use that. I tend to have bad luck with the TP method and throw up in my mouth if I get a taste :/

 

[Cotillion]

Oh I went way off track and totally skipped the reason why I replied! I'm geekin a little if it isn't obvious. Anyway I've learned recently that using ambien to try and sleep is a terrible idea! My wife has some crazy stories of what I've done the past 2 mornings when I've gotten home from work and popped my ambien and melatonin , none of which I can remember. Going to the store was on the top of the list for the dumbest things I've done lately

 

[jaehawk]

1. SWIM believes your "high-ness" depends on the quality/grade of shit in which you have obtained. Apparently, the lower grade "Dealer-who-doesn't-fucking-care-about-customer-service" type shit = crank & the higher "Breaking Bad Chemist" shit = crystal/glass... whatever you decide to call it, SWIM said the premium, ideal product is what users seek... That being said, you- being a first-time user with lack of tolerance (major downside to amphetamines, in general)- you should do well with the amount on hand. SWIM could not sleep for a day after UNSKILLFULLY smoking less than .2 of the product. I stress the fact that it was prepared/consumed "unskillfully" because it is SWIM's belief that a majority of the product was toasted, roasted or just plain fucked with by hands that lacked the artful preperation & heat application methods. Other people who are not me have also had the same issues during first-time use (or at least first few-time uses) for sleeping... After their last hurricane-brew-blast, they suffered from the inabilityh to sleep. Whether this bothered them or not was up to their state of mind at the time; were they drowning themselves mentally in the middle of the ocean or were they riding the wave back to shore like only a seasoned user knows how? *But if the anxiety monster attacks, word on the street is that a small dose of any benzo can tame the beast.*

2. SWIM has said that when using, it's all about preference. Assuming you're smoking from a pipe, you need to figure these things out:
First things first: If it's your pipe, did you give it a cool name like "The Dragon"? That was a silly joke; But seriously....
Do you enjoy the "hurricane-molten-volcanic-eruption" type toke that burns right thru to your soul & spanks heat all over your dope, making it dust in the wind after one blast? If so, are you fine with that because you achieved your preferred hit? Or are you more of a reserved, tiny-toker-type-smoker? The kind SWIM will never understand: who can savour the flavour & make their shit last for a ridunkulous amount of time? (SWIM always wondered how some users are able to do that... like squirrels storing nuts for winter... "What is a stash?" SWIM has wondered, "How does one keep this said 'Stash' safe from oneself?") Anyway, maybe assumptions are over-rated & you do not have a pipe, being a first-time user & all, so you have opted for the foil method. If so, SWIM wants to add this piece of advice even though you did not ask because SWIM applauds proper usage that leads to a fellow user getting the most out of the product & also, SWIM enjoys when users acheive desired effects = please study posts in regards to methods of heat application & "rolling the puddle". Also, unless you're using with an educated party, SWIM suggests that you opt for the tiny-toker method.... short hits while rolling your puddle & not blow-torching the shit out it will get you to your destination the same way larger hits would. Simply put: keep the flame loooooow & tread carefully... liquify your shit into puddle form whilst inhaling the salty, fumes directly thru some form of straw/pen etc., but take care not to scorch! This way, you skip the risk of blowing a heat-hole thru the foil, thus fucking your dreams of "high-ness" up & sending a huge, cloud of disappointment/your shit unexpectedly billowing up in your face. This may happen to you once or twice in your life, but I hope it doesn't. ONE LAST THING THAT SWIM WANTS FIRST-TIMERS TO KNOW: Lighter choice is important. There are lots of posts on here that will prove helpful= don't pick up the torch unless you're prepared to potentially waste/lose some of your shit. I know it looks really cool when someone is sitting there brewing a blast & they've got this cool-ass, butane lighter that's shaped like a gun and they're getting "mad high man!" & like french-rolling billowing clouds of smoke from their mouths but when you attempt that shit for the first time, you're probably gonna fuck something up... trust SWIM when SWIM says that that friend you've got hitting those big bitches right there has had practice... definately had practice... & fucked some shit up in the process of learning how to brew those cool tokes. Instead of attempting it yourself, maybe ask them to brew it for you. No shame in that since your hopes of getting lit have a better chance at being fullfilled than if you couldn't get off your pride-mobile in time to ask a friend for help.

3. If you've read the stuff I posted above, then you will hopefully understand (as SWIM has helped me understand) that there is no set rules here. It's all preference, experience, tolerance & most importantly, MIND STATE. You don't wanna be obvious? Don't. Your friend's are wondering why you're dancing around with glo-sticks wrapped around your body while you dance to techno screaming about how awesome this night is? WTF= tell them YOU'RE HAVING AN AWESOME FUCKING TIME & bounce happily back to that group of glo-stick clad kids who are on your level. But again, read posts. You need sleep, hydration etc. to properly control "tweaker" behaviours...


& THat is that. Hope that helped (did not read other posts & that took a while to write in between "SWIM" puffing on "The Dragon".)

Okay so I live in Australia & decided to smoke Ice. I have some questions:

1) If I smokes only half a point the first time, how long will I be high for, and how
much longer after using am I likely to sleep?

2) How many hits in a point? And is it better to smoke all at once or over longer period if time?

3) I wants a social high for when going clubbing, but doesn't want it to be obvious to friends that I'm on Ice. What is a good amount to smoke to be high but also sociable?

 

[Aphex747]

if you could compare good meth to a pharmaceutical grade amphetamine, what would it be ?? ive heard alot of people say dextroamphetamine. but ive done meth in ecstasy pills alot and really enjoyed the peaks.