Smoking Cigars(Blunts) while preggo good or bad?

[drscience]

please keep smoke away from ur baby.

 

[Asphid]

As for wishing horrible things on the innocent fetus, I would consider that to be a more heinous crime than smoking marijuana while pregnant (in my own personal lawbook). I cannot imagine ever wishing something so horrible on anyone, especially an innocent life. I shudder to think of how angry and small hearted you must be to do such a thing.

qft.

 

[Pharcyde]

I saw a bitch smoking cigs the other day at like 8months pregnant;;;;;;;;;;;you she been doing it the whole time

 

[MR. Feel Good]

orangescrewpen - Thanks for all the advice. I have been just rolling her .6 joints that she takes 2 hits of every once in awhile just to take the edge off and nausea. She hasn't hit a blunt in like 3 days and she refuses to now.

I hear you about eating it but as a lot of you might know good bud isnt exactly cheap. I dont buy enough to cook it.

slimvictor - Your information made my girl so happy! Thanks so much man. I really did not expect to get shit ion for this thread..

[Newbierock/U] - trust me karma is comign back around to you for that little comment you made...you fuckin bitch

 

[Tuneman]

I actually think this thread is kinda interesting- I love me some pot but honestly if I was having a child and my wife and I couldn't stop smoking weed for 9 months while she's pregnant this doesn't speak well for the next 18 years and my ability to be a parent to the child.

The physical issues of the pot probably aren't a big deal its more the fact that you will be smoking weed/unavailable to your kid when you are supposed to be parents. (I know I know no one ever smokes around the kid they don't know etc....) That is all garbage talk they do know and it will affect the kid as he/she is growing up.

Also think of the potential legal ramifications if you got caught- pot is illegal- it shouldn't be but hey it is so you have to deal with practical implications of using illegal stuff when you have a baby on the way. If you think cooking pot is expensive try getting arrested with it, or losing a job when your kid is 2 months old.

 

[OnlyAshRemains]

INB$

op youre a fucking idiot

Okay, out of curiosity... the hell's INB$ ?

 

[Asphid]

INB4.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inb4

 

[amber_dawn]

Well Mr. Feel Good, I have two adopted sisters, each of them have several problems, such as hearing, and speaking, and they will never be able to be 'normal'. All because their birth mother smoked pot. Tell her to STOP NOW, she should be worrying about vitamins, not freaking pot. I'm actually ashamed that you did not pick up on this. Rule 1# is the baby's health, and you pretty much ground it into dust.

Their is a HIGH chance that your kid will not be normal now, I suggeest she try to make up for it by eating healthy, the baby's entire body in under construction, any m essing with the placenta will damage him/her permanently.

Congrats, you are an idiot.

Really? That's the first i've ever heard of marijuana causing such a reaction in a fetus! In fact, they're the first to ever display such symptoms from a mother smoking marijuana while pregnant! 8) It couldn't of been that their mom was not eating properly, drinking caffeine, not getting enough folic acid, etc.....it was the pot she smoked!

Geeze, the amount of ignorance in this thread is insane! Mr. Feel Good, I'm sorry people are being such assholes to you. There's no proof that marijuana can do harm a baby like these people are saying. Now, no proof does not mean it's safe, but it's not likely to cause you to have a retarded baby. That's never happened, no matter what these people are saying. A doctor wouldn't recommend it to my friend for morning sickness if that were true! Just stick to the bowl, stay away from it in the third trimester, and don't let these idiots treat you like a bad parent. In FACT, there are studies that show kids who's mom smoke pot have a higher IQ than the norm (attributed to the fact that pot smokers usually interact & play games with their children more).

 

[ThaiDie4]

"A research review concluded that marijuana use by pregnant women is related to deficits in memory and information processing in their offspring. For example, in a longitudinal study, prenatal exposure to marijuana was related to learning and memory difficulties at age 11. Another study revealed that prenatal marijuana exposure was linked with depressive symptoms at 10 years of age."

"A Topical Approach to Life-span Development" by John M. Santrock. ^ I learned this in my Developmental Psychology class.

I realize you are not directly asking about the affects of weed itself, but I just feel like you need to know this. Take my word for it or not, but it's not as if I'm making it up just to be an asshole.

I'm not a parent, so I'm not going to lecture you or your wife on what is best to do for your child. I'm just saying, it's not as if marijuana is physically addictive, your wife could easily lay off the ganja for 9 monthes for the sake of her baby's mental health. It would be a shame if your child had a life long struggle of learning disabilities just because of weed. IMO, it's not worth the risk Just something to think about.

People like to act like marijuana is not really a "drug", but it is. It may not have the same kind of dangerous affects as cocaine or something, but it still does affect the brain and it's development. As a stoner myself, I'd love to think that blazing during pregnancy is okay- and I'm sure some fetuses remain relatively unaffected by marijuana exposure, but it all comes down to the CHANCE that it's not.

 

[Pharcyde]

Okay, out of curiosity... the hell's INB$ ?

Drugs destroyed me body so I held the shift down to long and INB$ came out insted of INB4

My parents must have smoked weed when I was in the womb huh?

 

[amber_dawn]

I took a developmental psychology class in college, which I know does not make me an expert or anything, but we did learn that smoking while pregnant actually has fairly negligible effects on the developing child. As long as the baby is full-term (assuming the mother is appropriate child-bearing years), there should be no harm done, other than maybe a slightly low birth weight. This being said, you'd be better safe than sorry by just quitting for the remainder of the pregnancy.

actually, the opposite is usually true. The baby is far more protected in the earlier stages of pregnancy, than the later. I know this because my friend found out she was pregnant after having smoked tons of weed, taken mushrooms, esctacy, coke, and being drunk during the first two months of pregnancy when she was unaware.

she stopped everything but weed, continuing with the weed to help de-stress and ease her morning sickeness. The doctor told her not to worry to much about the amount of drugs she had ingested because the baby is so protected from chemicals during those first few months. otherwise women would be miscarrying constantly.

and her child is not only fine, but incredibly smart, healthy, and beautiful. He's five years old now and has displayed no developmental problems whatsoever.

 

[amber_dawn]

"A research review concluded that marijuana use by pregnant women is related to deficits in memory and information processing in their offspring. For example, in a longitudinal study, prenatal exposure to marijuana was related to learning and memory difficulties at age 11. Another study revealed that prenatal marijuana exposure was linked with depressive symptoms at 10 years of age."

"A Topical Approach to Life-span Development" by John M. Santrock. ^ I learned this in my Developmental Psychology class.

I realize you are not directly asking about the affects of weed itself, but I just feel like you need to know this. Take my word for it or not, but it's not as if I'm making it up just to be an asshole.

I'm not a parent, so I'm not going to lecture you or your wife on what is best to do for your child. I'm just saying, it's not as if marijuana is physically addictive, your wife could easily lay off the ganja for 9 monthes for the sake of her baby's mental health. It would be a shame if your child had a life long struggle of learning disabilities just because of weed. IMO, it's not worth the risk Just something to think about.

People like to act like marijuana is not really a "drug", but it is. It may not have the same kind of dangerous affects as cocaine or something, but it still does affect the brain and it's development. As a stoner myself, I'd love to think that blazing during pregnancy is okay- and I'm sure some fetuses remain relatively unaffected by marijuana exposure, but it all comes down to the CHANCE that it's not.

People act like caffeine is not a drug. It can straight-up cause miscarriage.
No conclusive studies have shown any correlation between prenatal marijuana use and learning disabilities, it's total bullshit/anti-drug propaganda. Don't believe this shit....ask what the socio-economic status of the people studied were. I'm sure it was low, which would explain the learning disabilities/depression.

Anything you could do while pregnant could affect the baby. 8)
Weed is safer than a lot of things, funny how no one has mentioned the insane drugs the hospital gives you and the fucked up birth defects from those.

 

[Chainer]

good god would i not want the mother of my child smoking blunts.

Amber, it almost sounds like your suggesting it's okay for a pregnant woman to take shrooms, x, drink, or blow some snow while preggo. Though it's true that during the first few months the risk is significantly smaller, there is risk, and this is a harm REDUCTION site.

For fucks sake, it's someone else's life you are dealing with. If you want to risk being in that 1% (probably way fucking higher) that have birth complications because of drugs (be it alcohol or caffeine), then you shouldn't be having a goddamn kid.

 

[ThaiDie4]

actually, the opposite is usually true. The baby is far more protected in the earlier stages of pregnancy, than the later.

Babies are most sensitive to teratogens in the embryonic period, which is weeks 3-8 of the pregnancy. So yes, they are well protected at the very beginning of pregnancy, but not for two whole months of drug use

and her child is not only fine, but incredibly smart, healthy, and beautiful. He's five years old now and has displayed no developmental problems whatsoever.

That's one example of one child. Not every child is that lucky. Besides, 5 is rather young, how do you know that developmental problems will not occur in the future? I certainly hope they don't, but you never know.

No conclusive studies have shown any correlation between prenatal marijuana use and learning disabilities, it's total bullshit/anti-drug propaganda. Don't believe this shit....ask what the socio-economic status of the people studied were. I'm sure it was low, which would explain the learning disabilities/depression.

Anything you could do while pregnant could affect the baby. 8)
Weed is safer than a lot of things, funny how no one has mentioned the insane drugs the hospital gives you and the fucked up birth defects from those.

I mean, where are your sources? Maybe you are right, and there are other factors that affected memory and learning rather than the weed, but how are you really going to know either way? Maybe it was the pot, maybe it was something else, but I think it's safer to trust the studies than to discard them and risk cognitive damage to the fetus.

Also, of course there are other drugs more harmful to a fetus than marijuana, but that doesn't mean smoking weed is okay... that's like saying a gunshot is more painful than a broken toe, does that mean you wanna walk around with a broken bone?

Trust me, I am not anti-weed\anti-drug. I love weed. But that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore potential risks of it. It's one thing to accept those risks for yourself, but to take a chance with your unborn child is bit selfish, don't you think?? Until doctors can 100% say that prenatal exposure to marijuana does NO harm, then you just don't know.

 

[OnlyAshRemains]

actually, the opposite is usually true. The baby is far more protected in the earlier stages of pregnancy, than the later. I know this because my friend found out she was pregnant after having smoked tons of weed, taken mushrooms, esctacy, coke, and being drunk during the first two months of pregnancy when she was unaware.

she stopped everything but weed, continuing with the weed to help de-stress and ease her morning sickeness. The doctor told her not to worry to much about the amount of drugs she had ingested because the baby is so protected from chemicals during those first few months. otherwise women would be miscarrying constantly.

and her child is not only fine, but incredibly smart, healthy, and beautiful. He's five years old now and has displayed no developmental problems whatsoever.

I didn't mean that smoking later in the pregnancy was safer than earlier, I was just saying that as long as the baby isn't born prematurely because the mother is either too young (like 15) or too old (like 40), the only negative effects of smoking, even cigarettes, is a slightly low birthweight. Basically, yeah, I agree with you.

Edit: I'd just like to add that I am in no way advocating smoking weed/cigarettes or anything while pregnant (or cigarettes ever hah), I'm just stating my opinion based on what I believe to be true. And I think, really, we all know very little about this subject, regardless of what sources we can cite to back up our opinions. Really, the world of scientific research is corruptable just like anything else, and scientists can design a study to come to whatever kind of conclusions they want. Or whatever the people/organization giving them grant money want. If I were a woman I would like to think I would choose to be completely drug-free while pregnant (yes, including caffeine, aspirin, etc.), but obviously that will never happen, so who knows.

 

[amber_dawn]

good god would i not want the mother of my child smoking blunts.

Amber, it almost sounds like your suggesting it's okay for a pregnant woman to take shrooms, x, drink, or blow some snow while preggo. Though it's true that during the first few months the risk is significantly smaller, there is risk, and this is a harm REDUCTION site.

For fucks sake, it's someone else's life you are dealing with. If you want to risk being in that 1% (probably way fucking higher) that have birth complications because of drugs (be it alcohol or caffeine), then you shouldn't be having a goddamn kid.

are you fucking kidding me? I was just pointing it out as an example. i do not even recommend smoking marijuana while pregnant. I was just appalled by the amount of misinformation in this thread, and the incredible ignorant attitudes people have, like smoing pot while pregnant is going to cause you to have a retarded fucked up baby and you're an evil person for doing it. It's not like that.

And ThaiDie4, you're totally right. It is selfish to smoke weed while pregnant, and I wouldn't do it. We DON'T know everything, and hasn't been proven one way or the other. So....yeah. Sorry If I came across bitchy to you, you were right in what you said.

I just was sick of what an asshole a lot of people in this thread were being, not to mention the rampant ignorance--someone even said "i hope your kid comes out retarded and is a burden on you for the rest of your life"! That's totally crossing the line. Marijuana is PROBABLY (not 100 percent) a lot safer than most drugs, especially those given to you at the hospital while in labor. People do all kinds of fucked up shit to their kids, the least of which is smoking pot while pregnant. I don't recommend doing ANY drugs while pregnant, but since this is a harm-reduction site, and people are going to smoke pot while knocked up no matter what anyone tells them, we should at least refrain from simply calling them idiots.

 

[Pharcyde]

hope thats not a ban but OP you AREA A FUCKING IDIOT

 

[ThaiDie4]

Sorry If I came across bitchy to you, you were right in what you said.

I just was sick of what an asshole a lot of people in this thread were being, not to mention the rampant ignorance--someone even said "i hope your kid comes out retarded and is a burden on you for the rest of your life"! That's totally crossing the line. .

you weren't being bitchy at all, i just misunderstood what you were saying, so I'm sorry if I seemed defensive and stuff. I agree that there are much worse things to do than smoking pot during pregnancy, and that studies on prenatal exposure to marijuana tend to go both ways... some say it does damage, others say it may be other factors, and it seems like we both agree that it's better to be safe than sorry. I just wanted the OP to hear what my textbook had to say, and take it into consideration.

And you are absolutely right, some people are DEFINENTLY crossing the line. I disagree with smoking during pregnancy, but wishing harm on the baby is cruel

Anyways, that's all I had to say on the subject, and I just wanted to help OP and his wife.

 

[orangescrewpen]

I think a lot of people are forgetting the terrible strains pregnancy puts on a woman's body. Morning sickness and depression just to name a few. From what I gather, marijuana, which is recommended by some doctors to pregnant women, has a very low likelihood of doing anything negative to the fetus and can provide very effective relief of these really terrible symptoms.

Anecdotal accounts of messed up fetuses from smoking mj, just any most other anecdotal accounts, don't mean anything. In the adopted sister situation, I could argue they were coming from a less than ideal family background since they were put up for adoption and there was no extended family to take them in. Who knows what other factors played in to it. Also, don't forget some babies are born with "defects" naturally and substance free.

It is also notable, I think, that some stuff like aspirin is counter indicated with pregnancy. There is some reasoning behind why it is bad though. Here is an exert about it from the mayo clinic website:

So what's the concern with aspirin during pregnancy? Prostaglandins are hormone-like substances. Aspirin and other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, including ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, others), block the production of prostaglandins. If you take aspirin during pregnancy — especially after 32 weeks — there's a risk that the baby's blood flow could be rerouted in the uterus. This could cause potentially fatal problems for the baby.

What does this mean for using mj during pregnancy? not much, they are different substances, but I can't in all this find any logical reasoning behind why mj would be bad during pregnancy. Lets not forget, mj is non-toxic(the smoke may be slightly) and, if I am not mistaken, one of the few if not the only drug that has never had a death attributable to it. While we ain't talking about death here, I think it is a valid indicator of how benign it is and how well adapted our bodies are too ingesting it. I am sure moderation of intake would also moderate potential negative effects.

If I can just say one more thing, please lets keep it civil, it ain't your baby lol and for all we know this guy could have completely made the story up (thank you internet!). Not saying he is. I think those who are really strongly opposed to any mj use during pregnancy, I would like to see some reasoned, logical arguments instead of non-constructive flaming and the citing of questionable truths.

I'm not going to post any more on the subject, the discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere. OP, I suggest asking a doctor. Hopefully, maybe, that person will have a bit more training in the matter than any of us.

 

[Chainer]

are you fucking kidding me? I was just pointing it out as an example. i do not even recommend smoking marijuana while pregnant. I was just appalled by the amount of misinformation in this thread, and the incredible ignorant attitudes people have, like smoing pot while pregnant is going to cause you to have a retarded fucked up baby and you're an evil person for doing it. It's not like that.

Ah, I see. Looking at that post alone, however, it does come across in an different light.

nbd