Smoking benzos

[Glitched]

Kind of a random one guys, bare with me.

I'm an infrequent heroin user, I smoke or snort it. Two of my contacts called me on Sunday and I met up with them as they both had new batches in.

I smoked all of it except for 2 bags which I snorted. A few days later I did a drug test on myself to see if it was just heroin I was getting or wether it was some strange addition.

I tested positive for opiates and benzos, which knowing the scene and the relationship between the two families of drugs is no massive surprise and something that has happened before.

Now my question is this: I understand if the benzos would enter my system from snorting it due to some of it going down my throat and into my stomach (also depending on the particular type of benzo it could be snortable). But, let's say for arguments sake that I only ever smoked the stuff, would I still test positive for benzos? From my understanding you can't smoke benzos (I may be wrong there, I'm no expert) but even though there is no effect on me would it still enter my system and test positive just from smoking?

 

[RTrain]

I actually think you can get some benzos into your system by smoking them. It is by no means practical, healthy or economical, but I do believe it is effective enough to potentially show positive in a drug test. There are are reports of people smoking benzos and getting effect from them, as foolish an idea as it is I think it can work. Its similar to the idea of smoking #4 powder dope, wasteful but will do something. The burning point might be below what destroys the drug, but if heat is applied carefully it will first melt then be vaped. Even if applying direct flame to it, the surrounding part that is not being burnt is just meting and vaping.

 

[Glitched]

Thanks for the reply RTrain. What makes you think that or is it just a hunch? Just wondering why you think that is all as to my knowledge it couldn't be smoked.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Any benzo is going to be absorbed via insufflation. It's also possible that you're simply getting a false positive.

 

[Bman2]

I would definitely think you would be getting some of the drug in you by smoking even though it doesn't make sense to do that for getting high

 

[Glitched]

Yeh, I know that insufflating it would make me test possitive if it was cut with benzos Bob, I meant smoking it Bob mate. I'm intruiged about false possitives, what could cause false possitives for benzos?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I meant that all benzos are going to be absorbed in the nasal mucous membrane. I'm not sure which substances would cause a false positive, but I know a shitty drug test can. Without a GC/MS there's no way to know what you're dealing with.

 

[ykm420]

I meant that all benzos are going to be absorbed in the nasal mucous membrane. I'm not sure which substances would cause a false positive, but I know a shitty drug test can. Without a GC/MS there's no way to know what you're dealing with.

That's not true. If you insufflate a benzo, you're going to get effects from the drug dripping to your stomach. It's not absorbing into your MM's.

 

[Hammilton]

What do you think your throat and stomach linings are, genius? Mucus membranes.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Exactly. They're not called "water membranes"

 

[ykm420]

I meant that all benzos are going to be absorbed in the nasal mucous membrane. I'm not sure which substances would cause a false positive, but I know a shitty drug test can. Without a GC/MS there's no way to know what you're dealing with.

What do you think your throat and stomach linings are, genius? Mucus membranes.

So, your stomach is nasal mucous membranes? Don't have to act like a fucking prick, genius.

 

[sunshinesometimes]

i believe ykm420 is right.. ive been told that benzos, at least xanax, are not water soluble, therefore it will not absorb in your nose. Any effect you get from it will be from it dripping down into your stomach where it will then be absorbed.

I did not know that a while back and always snorted mine. You will still feel it but you get more use out of it if you just take it orally. This was back when i still insufflated oc's and ir's and was so accustomed to getting a "drip" that if i just swallowed a pill i mentally wasn't satisfied, so i still insufflated the xanax anyways.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

He means the throat, nose, and stomach all contain mucous membranes.

You might not know, but Hammilton (and his old account Ham-milton) is a very knowledegable poster who frequent N&PD (the old ADD). Though you can search around online & on here (including the Can I Snort This? mega-thread up in the BDD Threads of Note), and find out that water solubility is not the deciding factor in whether something is absorbed in a mucous membrane.

 

[Pietra]

Hi Glitched, this is a similar question that someone asked last year in the European DD. They smoked heroin on a fairly regular basis but never touched benzos however their drug tests came back positive for benzos.

They knew there was something not right with the heroin because there was no euphoria it just knocked them out. They couldn't understand how benzos got into their system because they never used any sort if benzo and they only ever smoked heroin, never snorted it.

Anyway after much investigating they found out that rohypnol was the one benzo that can be absorbed by smoking. Could be what yours was cut with.

 

[Glitched]

Thanks Pietra.

I think people have misunderstood my question here, or at least gotten off topic, I was wondering if it entered my system through smoking, not snorting! I would have thought the heat destroys the benzo so, in theory, the benzo shouldn't enter the system?

 

[bukweat]

I've heard of people getting false positives from vitamins and nsaid's . Kpins go undetected often too.