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Smokers, Please sign this petition

I don't think you shouldn't keep on wanting pot to be legal. However if it comes to a vote I'm voting against it. Also I don't think this petition would actually amount to anything.

"we need to make Marijuana legal. Not just medical Marijuana but all Marijuana, god put it on this world to smoke. we cant disobey gods word can we? people who smoke Marijuana do not lose there perspective on life. Think about it you're making a natural herb ( A PLANT) Ellegal!
When studies show that acholal ( a man made poisin) is alot worse than Marijuana ( a natural growing plant) Many people use this drug for stress or pain or just to relax, Marijuana is the least drug that causes any thing other then peace and it probly would'nt cause any at all if the government would stop slamming people in jail and having the same penalties as CRACK."

That's not the kind of thing I'd want to sign. Religion has no place in legislation. The guy who wrote this doesn't have spell check either. Or he's just too fucked up on an 'Ellegal herb' to write. Stuff like this just makes cannabis users look like idiots, if you really want your cause supported you should stop people like this from writing things on the internet. What is wrong with making a plant illegal? Should opium poppies be legal? That's a plant.
 
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MistaJeff said:
Just because people don't die for cannabis doesn't mean it isn't harmful. Also, I'm not a grower or a pusher, just a prohibitionist. I use cannabis yes, its illegal yes, if I were arrested for using cannabis I wouldn't complain, I knew the consequences before hand. I don't think it should be legal or endorsed by the government to get high on anything. Also, about people getting falsified prescriptions. That does happen, however, it is much more difficult to get a prescription for pharmaceuticals than it is for cannabis. Literally all you need to do to get a club card is pay a doctor $200, you can't walk into a doctors office, hand him $200, and get a lifetime prescription for Oxycontin.
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You also have to buy the cannabis itself. I don't see why you care, if you ask me you're just an idiot, or jealous you can't get medical weed where you live.
 
^not to mention there's nothing wrong with Opium or Poppy Tea, it's not the same as Heroin and as long as it isn't used often (unlike Heroin, which by many isn't used "occasionally") it can be a great entheogen.
 
Poppy Tea can actually be very addicting, but thats another topic entirely.
 
beta1 said:
Poppy Tea can actually be very addicting, but thats another topic entirely.
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fixed. :)

Personally, I've had no problems or negative repercussions after using Poppy Tea, but it was only after a month of usage, so who knows. People said the same about daily usage of Kratom, where again I had no withdrawal effects that were said to be apparent.

YMMV.
 
Occasional use of poppy tea won't do any damage, occasional use of heroin won't cause any damage.

Opiates are opiates, the problem isn't with the substance. The problem lies in the addictive qualities of any opiate.

Just wanted to make sure people understood that before they went out and bought poppy pods thinking they were a "low risk" opiate high, they are not. Poppy pods get you high because they contain things like morphine, codeine, thebaine. Just because they come from a natural source doesn't mean they are anymore "safe" than the synthetics :\
 
beta1 said:
occasional use of heroin won't cause any damage.
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The question is, how many people do you know actually started bangin' heroin, not because they couldn't afford pharmaceutical opiates and they made the switch over do to a cost issue, but because they actually wanted to start using heroin?

I'd like to surmise that there are not many.

Most people don't just use heroin occasionally. Are there people who've tried it and it ended at that, sure are, but not many occasional users out there. If they are what you would dub, "occasional users," they're probably struggling with a serious cycle.
 
Ason Unique said:
You also have to buy the cannabis itself. I don't see why you care, if you ask me you're just an idiot, or jealous you can't get medical weed where you live.
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I live in California, and I don't want a medical cannabis card.

beta1 said:
Poppy pods already are legal buddy.. Its funny when people make it obvious that they are so clearly talking out of their ass :\
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Its not legal to grow fields opium poppies. Poppy pods are legal under the context that they are not being used for human consumption. How am I talking out of my ass? Do you enjoy insulting people on message boards? Does it make you feel better about yourself?
 
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Nevertheless, to answer your original question. Yes, it should be legal to grow opium poppies.

And I didn't insult you, I said you were talking out of your ass (JMO). If your that sensitive, then maybe you should try posting your rubbish elsewhere.
 
BiG StroOnZ said:
That's like saying, "I'm married to Jessica Biel, and I don't want to have sex with her"

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You go in a database. Its pretty hard to get a job when your employer looks you up and sees you have a cannabis card.




beta1 said:
And I didn't insult you, I said you were talking out of your ass (JMO). If your that sensitive, then maybe you should try posting your rubbish elsewhere.
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Excuse me for taking this as an insult then

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Then by your own dumbass logic your not actually for prohibition at all. .
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MistaJeff said:
You go in a database. Its pretty hard to get a job when your employer looks you up and sees you have a cannabis card.
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I've heard the exact opposite, that it's hard for you to get fired if you have a Cannabis Card and test positive for THC.

As far as profiling goes on not getting hired, simply because you have a MM Card. That would be considered illegal and is no different than not hiring someone because of their race or sexuality. I also doubt most employers have access to this database or can inquire this info on a basic background check. Just doesn't add up...
 
MistaJeff said:
Excuse me for taking this as an insult then
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Your excused.. But again, thats not an insult. Did you grow up in a bubble or something?

If someone says your logic is retarded that doesn't make it a personal insult, it just means that person happens to think your logic is retarded. Once again, you are just wrong.
 
^^ Did you mean my logic was a dumb ass or that my logic was that of a dumb ass?

BiG StroOnZ said:
I've heard the exact opposite, that it's hard for you to get fired if you have a Cannabis Card and test positive for THC.

As far as profiling goes on not getting hired, simply because you have a MM Card. That would be considered illegal and is no different than not hiring someone because of their race or sexuality. I also doubt most employers have access to this database or can inquire this info on a basic background check. Just doesn't add up...
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Its technically illegal but no one gives a shit about it. Technically medical marijuana is federally illegal. If your old and have a stable job its fine but if your young and unemployed like me I can present a substantial future problem. MM isn't all fun and games like it may seem.
 
MistaJeff said:
Cannabis isn't harmless, if people truly believe that it is harmless that it is good that its illegal. I think its stupid that cannabis is schedule 1 and things like cocaine are schedule 2. However, people should not be able to buy cannabis in stores. People shouldn't be allowed to buy alcohol or cigarettes in stores either. Also medical marijuana is a sham. Yes its true that marijuana can help a select few people with certain conditions. A large majority of medical marijuana card holders have them for false reasons and just get high. Its also about as common to be able to purchase medical marijuana on the street as it is to purchase illegally grown marijuana on the street.
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So you are an ultra- conservative? I don't see many of your types around here :o Many people feel the exact opposite, and leave it up to the consumer to understand reasonable consumption and abuse, and to educate rather then regulate.

A huge plus on legalization would be the safety and crime aspect, they would both be handily taken care of, with no drug dealers roaming the street or war against drugs or impure, dangerous and cut products around.

Those who were against weed would still be against it if it was legal, and if not, then maybe there is something to think about there.

Ember, slavery was okay until somebody said it wasn't. Englightening comes with change, they are hand in hand!

*ps really high 8)
 
MistaJeff said:
.... but if your young and unemployed like me I can present a substantial future problem. MM isn't all fun and games like it may seem.
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Having a MM Card is the least of problems with any young job pursuer, mainly because of the economy. You seem to make these extreme statements without holding any evidence and it's pretty peculiar.

Explain why MM isn't all fun and games like it may seem... :|
 
I don't know why someone would want to hang around on an internet weed forum if they were against legalization. It just seems kind of silly.

Anyway, weed should be legal because it is a plant that has been growing out of the ground since before Moses as free medicine for the human race.

It seems so simple but people have to make everything so complicated.

Weed doesn't hurt people, people hurt people... by judging them for using a natural herb and locking them up.
 
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