Stimulants Smoked too much meth and I’m panicking

[Vinnie77]

1. Don't forget to drink
2. Don't forget to eat
3. Don't forget to sleep
4. Don't do too much

1. Meth is strong diuretic and after bottle of tequila, you can see hallucination of your dog, like my friend have seen, but dog didn't lead him back to cottage, that was 3 minutes away, but instead of that he took him to another town. 1st january. 15 degrees below zero and 15 kms through the hill and forest.
2. Meth is causing muscle breakdown if you don't eat at all. Some people don't care, but if you are not on roids that prevent muscle breakdown, you have to force yourself to eat
3. Try to plan sleep schedule properly and even if you can't get asleep, then pretend it as long as possible, don't move, count your breaths, listen to Delta waves, meditate.
4. This one is most important, because to fully enjoy meth you have to get to the point when you start multitasking, time is passing extremely, you will get "locked" doing a simple things or even looking from windows for hours, then you start haluccinating and then you will go to sleep finally. But during full enjoyment you will struggle to stick to first 3 points and it will cause serious harm to body and mind

 

[Vinnie77]

1. Don't forget to drink
2. Don't forget to eat
3. Don't forget to sleep
4. Don't do too much

1. Meth is strong diuretic and after bottle of tequila, you can see hallucination of your dog, like my friend have seen, but dog didn't lead him back to cottage, that was 3 minutes away, but instead of that he took him to another town. 1st january. 15 degrees below zero and 15 kms through the hill and forest.
2. Meth is causing muscle breakdown if you don't eat at all. Some people don't care, but if you are not on roids that prevent muscle breakdown, you have to force yourself to eat
3. Try to plan sleep schedule properly and even if you can't get asleep, then pretend it as long as possible, don't move, count your breaths, listen to Delta waves, meditate.
4. This one is most important, because to fully enjoy meth you have to get to the point when you start multitasking, time is passing extremely, you will get "locked" doing a simple things or even looking from windows for hours, then you start haluccinating and then you will go to sleep finally. But during full enjoyment you will struggle to stick to first 3 points and it will cause serious harm to body and mind

X. If you are not able to stick to last point, than supplements are useful as well, like pills or mineral water with lot of magnesium and potassium can prevent cramps. Arginine is harmless vasoconstrictor. Lowers blood pleasure and small effect on dick. Taurine is most important aminacid for heart and it's not restored fast enough on meth......Once i had cramps and next day after heavyworkout (no drugs, except roids and some preworkout with DMMA a basic things) and it happened on a highway in a traffic jam, so i realized i can't go out and it was so.painfu.lt was just 2 minutes, and then it was gone, but i would get rather my thighs stabbed instead that cramps.
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[CFC]

On top of some of the very helpful replies so far, eating easily digested fats via a meal replacement shake is a pretty good way to calm things down.

In forward-thinking hospitals nowadays, stim ODers are sometimes given an IV solution containing an emulsion of fats. The fats draw the meth/amphetamine out of the bloodstream, as amphetamines will very happily bind to fats (ie lipophilic), thus cutting the high short very quickly and without any of the risks associated with using other drugs, benzos etc.

 

[Jabberwocky]

On top of some of the very helpful replies so far, eating easily digested fats via a meal replacement shake is a pretty good way to calm things down.

In forward-thinking hospitals nowadays, stim ODers are sometimes given an IV solution containing an emulsion of fats. The fats draw the meth/amphetamine out of the bloodstream, so cutting the high short very quickly and without any of the risks associated with using other drugs, benzos etc.

Wow. You learn something new everyday here. I’ve never heard of such a protocol. I’d be interested in reading a paper if you have a reference.

 

[CFC]

Wow. You learn something new everyday here. I’ve never heard of such a protocol. I’d be interested in reading a paper if you have a reference.

Sure, it's called Lipid Emulsion Therapy. It's slowly getting out there, but as I'm sure you know these things can take forever to catch on...


The use of intravenous lipid emulsion therapy in acute methamphetamine toxicity

https://www.ajemjournal.com/article/S0735-6757(15)01111-0/pdf

Exploring the effect of intravenous lipid emulsion in acute methamphetamine toxicity

Exploring the effect of intravenous lipid emulsion in acute methamphetamine toxicity - PMC

The increasing use of methamphetamine (METH) in the last decades has made it the second most abused drug. Advancs in the area of intravenous lipid emulsion (ILE) have led to its potential application in the treatment of poisoning. The present study ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You might need to use SciHub to access the full papers.

 

[Joey]

Wow. You learn something new everyday here. I’ve never heard of such a protocol. I’d be interested in reading a paper if you have a reference.

Ditto to that. Maybe a weed butter solution can be had here? High fat pastry indica?

 

[Skrilith]

Good morning.

Great to hear. And thank you so much for following up and letting all concerned know that you're good to go. Not only is it the right thing to do but it's the honorable and brave thing to do.

On a lighter note: I'm surprised you haven't been sent a thousand PMs asking where you are so that people can score i.e. just about every thread I see around here of late with regard to Meth. is about people complaining about the quality of the Meth. they're getting. Not that I know anything about it: but sounds like to me there are quite a few people that would actually PAY to feel like you did yesterday! Lol!

Anyways. Take it easy and take care. Now that you've got a few posts and seems that you've made some new friends: don't be a stranger to the forums.

Not one haha. This is the first time I’ve EVER been successfully able to buy my own bag of good shit so I kind of went overboard. Every other time I’ve gotten my money jacked or been sold shit that wasn’t even safe to smoke it was so cut.

 

[Dextro .45]

Ya, I would say everyone should have an emergency kit on hand, for any situation.

Even when mobile, out on the road or away from home, I have a small carry kit with samples of all emergency items. With regards to stimulants you should have on hand rapid acting benzodiazepines, clonidine, propranolol, etc.

Many times a person will begin to panic by their own thoughts, which just compounds the problems and makes the situation worse. It is helpful to “get out of your head” sit down in relaxed position with bottle of water and breath nice slow deep breaths and calm your palse & heart rate. Thinking about worrying thoughts will spike bp & hr and cause panic attacks.

This method of “getting out of your head” while breathing slow deep calm breaths while sitting in relaxed environment while drinking cool water always works for me ....but I always have rapid acting, potent anxiolytic meds on hand.

Hope this can help in the future...

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

Stimulants cause paranoia--what can anyone really do besides have some emergency benzos on hand though?

I suppose you can do things like deep breathing and go on walks but at the end of the day it's just how stimulants are especially at the higher doses. For me I never have episodes like I used to on them. In time the paranoia aspect probably will totally stop with more experience but in a sense so do their positive euphoric qualities.

 

[LaceyViolet69]

I really didn’t even do that much. I’ve done way more of way stronger stuff with way less of a tolerance. But I just smoked a bowl and now I feel so fucked up and I feel like I have shortness of breath and have to force myself to breath. I’ve arguably been doing it a lot more lately but it wasn’t an issue until now I eat and sleep this is the first time I’ve been so high I can’t sleep because usually I eat and sleep fine I’m freaking out and don’t have anyone to tell or talk to idk what to do. I have so gabapentin would that help me come down and maybe lower my heart rate idk I’m freaking

I used to do s hela amount of speed u need to focus on something else.. Most ppl i know watch porn as a good distraction. It should pass after a while have u done anything else along with the speed???

 

[LaceyViolet69]

I am totally new to this site I think I am going to enjoy being on here. I am about to eat 3 hits of sid and im def gonna let yall kno how it goes i hope you can get out of ur head things will be fine

 

[NOT Stepfather]

With regards to stimulants you should have on hand rapid acting benzodiazepines, clonidine, propranolol, etc.

Hope you’re still around. I got a 16mg supply of Xanax thinking I would use it to comedown off a 10 day binge, but I’ve already used 4.5mg in 3 days and I’m still hitting the pipe. I’m worried that the amnesia from both drugs is making me loose track of how much dope I’m using. So that’s definitely something to be careful of.
But my question: is it okay to take clonidine with Xanax? How much of each?

 

[Atomic_Decay]

If you are super high on meth then mixing clonidine and xanax is a bad idea as you run the risk if instigating a hypotensive crisis where your bloodpressure crashes dramatically, you may pass out (not in a good way), or you may experience extreme cardiac arrythmia.

This is because these two drugs can potentiate eath other. Seroquel is another bad one to combine with either of these in a meth crisis.

It sounds like you already have plenty of xanax in you but you are still topping up the meth? That’s not gonna work.

Put down the meth, take a small dose of xanax, like down in a quiet, dark, comfortable place and just breathe slowly and deeply and evenly while listening to extremely chill music for a while.

The deep breathing will take away the panicy feeling and relax you towards sleepiness and the chill music will give your brain something
to chew on besides dark negative thoughts.

This should all be enough to bring down your vlood pressure and heart rate enough that you won’t need to risk the clonidine.

 

[Atomic_Decay]

If you are super high on meth then mixing clonidine and xanax is a bad idea as you run the risk if instigating a hypotensive crisis where your bloodpressure crashes dramatically, you may pass out (not in a good way), or you may experience extreme cardiac arrythmia.

This is because these two drugs can potentiate eath other. Seroquel is another bad one to combine with either of these in a meth crisis.

It sounds like you already have plenty of xanax in you but you are still topping up the meth? That’s not gonna work.

Put down the meth, take a small dose of xanax, like down in a quiet, dark, comfortable place and just breathe slowly and deeply and evenly while listening to extremely chill music for a while.

The deep breathing will take away the panicy feeling and relax you towards sleepiness and the chill music will give your brain something
to chew on besides dark negative thoughts.

This should all be enough to bring down your vlood pressure and heart rate enough that you won’t need to risk the clonidine.

 

[NOT Stepfather]

If you are super high on meth then mixing clonidine and xanax is a bad idea as you run the risk if instigating a hypotensive crisis where your bloodpressure crashes dramatically, you may pass out (not in a good way), or you may experience extreme cardiac arrythmia.

This is because these two drugs can potentiate eath other. Seroquel is another bad one to combine with either of these in a meth crisis.

It sounds like you already have plenty of xanax in you but you are still topping up the meth? That’s not gonna work.

Put down the meth, take a small dose of xanax, like down in a quiet, dark, comfortable place and just breathe slowly and deeply and evenly while listening to extremely chill music for a while.

The deep breathing will take away the panicy feeling and relax you towards sleepiness and the chill music will give your brain something
to chew on besides dark negative thoughts.

This should all be enough to bring down your vlood pressure and heart rate enough that you won’t need to risk the clonidine.

Thanks. I have a serious problem with committing to abstinence. I’m trying to save what gear I have left for another time since my tolerance is so high. I wasn’t in very bad shape at the time, just wanted to know if I could mix clonidine and xans in the future. Thanks for your help!

 

[Jabberwocky]

That’s solid and timely advice @Atomic_Decay. Basically exactly what I would have said if I had been in this dimension yesterday.

Everybody thinks Clonidine is a really benign drug. My psych actually recommends it to people on ADHD meds to help them chillax if they dose 3 times a day and work 10-12 hours. But the truth is it’s super dangerous in combinations involving excessive stimulant. A prescribed 50 ug dose after taking you prescribed daily dose of 30 mg dexamfetamine won’t cause much trouble. But if you take 100ug shortly after your last 3 gram shot at the end of a 3 day meth binge when your blood pressure is already 150/90 or higher you’ll by lying on the floor paralysed praying desperately someone finds you and calls an ambulance before your thrashing heart explodes out of your chest. Throw in a multiplier like a strong benzo, seroquel, other calcium channel blockers, or a beta blocker and you are taking an enormous risk.

While we are on the topic don’t take any of the following while you are tweaking out: citalopram, sertaline, tramadol, phentermine (e,g if you run out of meth and think it might get you higher), escitaprolam,

Basically don’t do anything but stay awake until your next normal bedtime and take either a low dose of a long acting benzo like valium or a strong antihistamine (which is what very low dose of seroquel is (25-50 mgZ0,

Now people will point out that in the ER they sometimes use different protocols for acute meth intoxication including alpha/beta blockers, anti-psychotics, and much stronger benzos. But getting to sleep safely in your bedroom after 48 hours awake is very different to being psychotic, having hypertensive crisis, and attacking the nursing staff cause you just jacked a half gram shot and your friends called 911 on you before fleeing.

 

[Dextro .45]

Hope you’re still around. I got a 16mg supply of Xanax thinking I would use it to comedown off a 10 day binge, but I’ve already used 4.5mg in 3 days and I’m still hitting the pipe. I’m worried that the amnesia from both drugs is making me loose track of how much dope I’m using. So that’s definitely something to be careful of.
But my question: is it okay to take clonidine with Xanax? How much of each?

Yes, it’s ok to use Clonidine 0.1mg tablets with Xanax 0.5mg tablets

Clonidine 0.1mg tablets are scored and can be halved. Even half a tablet is strong enough to relax me (240 lbs / 6’) before bed for a great restful sleep.

What ever your tolerance is with Xanax, I’d imagine Xanax 1mg & half a Clonidine tablet would be great

Note: if you take Clonidine daily for weeks, you must gradually reduce your intake and dosage to minimize rebound hypertension. If you stand up quickly you’ll feel light headed, dizzy, and could faint in extreme cases. Taking a tablet here and there or a tablet or two for few days shouldn’t be an issue

…a Clonidine 0.1mg tablet is damn near indistinguishable from a strong benzodiazepine. Can easily go head to head with any benzo as a rapid acting potent anxiolytic/sedative.

If I gave 100 participants a double blind placebo controlled test, at least 75% would all think they received a 10mg Valium / Diazepam dose, while in reality they took a Clonidine 0.1mg tablet