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'Smart drugs' - Some questions.

ALA

Does anyone know anything about Alpha Liopic Acid in relation to pre-loading and post-loading? Not much info out there. I know it is an anit-oxidant but is it worth while taking this, as well as taking 5htp? I already pre and post load with 200mg 5htp and 250mg DL-Phenylalanine , L-Glutamine.

Thanx for the info PD, I was considering deprenyl after reading a few things from a few sources but have now decided against it. Didn't realise how dangerous it can be.
 
ALA is a good antioxidant which I think has been found to reduce MDMA neurotoxicity.

It has a short half life so I have my ALA at the same time as I drop the pill, and with every pill after the first.
 
Tihkal, the 5-htp you get will convert to melatonin eventually.

As for piracetum, i rekon acid is wasted without it.
 
Can we get a breakdown of things you can take with what because although this thread makes for excellent reading, I think I'm going to have to read things 5 times over to get a grasp on things and I think there are a few contridictions.
 
Nice bump.

Im just about to get started on a course of 'smarties' again myself. Gonna stick with Piracetam with Hydergine, and maybe throw in Choline and possibly l-phenalalynine.

I can feel those brain cells pulsating and regenerating already :D . Now, off to waste them on some mindless video games =D

As far as l-deprenyl(Selegeline) goes, the jury's still out for me. I still have some left and will occasionaly take 10-15mg in a week. The effects are extremely subtle, if anything :\
 
guys
ive read up on all these smart drugs etc and it would probably greatly improve my memory (or lack thereof), concentration, etc.

you all speak of these substances, but for the life of me cant find anything that tells me sources in oz, will I need a script for these or is it OTC?


is it okay to posts sources for this stuff?
 
Nah you cant post sources and you cant get it in OZ. I order mine from a South African company online and they always been extremely prompt in comm and postage - way more efficient than any US company. Do a search you will find online sellers no probs at all.
 
What contridictions are there towards other drugs like if you have pills or speed you should avoid (*smart drug)
 
If you're taking selegiline you REALLY shouldn't be taking stimulants (other than caffeine, which is fine)
 
So it's legal to import for your own use, but unavailable here?


i always get nervous about ordering gear that you cant buy in oz, i was pretty anxious when i got 5htp lol!
 
It's legal to import so long as it's not registered here.

Piracetam is fine. I checked with the TGA - 1kg is fine.
 
I got some piracetam from the states and it arrived like the Tuesday after the Friday I ordered it! Came via FedEx. Got both capsules and a tub full of loose powder.

I haven't tried it with pills yet, but I can't say that it has done anything for me straight except give me eczema!
 
I obtained a prescription for Selegiline from my friendly local GP without any problems. Others I know have done the same.

Apart from price which may be cheaper outside Australia, I recommend you try this approach before ordering it OS. I know some people have had no probs getting it in, but it's listed as a class 4 pharm, so I'd be a tad careful. Having a script means you can also travel with it without concern.
 
I live in WA and was wondering how you got Selegiline?
I ordered some smart drugs from and american company and its taking its sweet ass time to arive.
Is DMEA legal here?
 
DMAE is indeed legal
tadfish -- I hope you didn't order from smi2le.biz, because you're never going to get it. That whole operation is grossly ineffecient and unresponsive at best, fraud at worst.

(Does this offend the sources rule)?
 
Presumably you have to explain why you want it and then ask for it... I would have thought that would be self-evident. I asked two GPs I know and got declined by both because they had no idea about it and didn't want to mess around with parkinsons drugs.

Are you aware of the dangers of using it, tadfish?
 
^^ It's completely understandable that a GP would be hesitant if he/ she had not heard of selegiline being used in this manner. I should add, that before I asked for a script, I dumped a pile of reading material; published findings in reputable journals etc. on his desk. After he'd had time to digest the contents he was more than willing to oblige this old student's aging memory.

Other friends have had success following much the same format. But with the potential dangers, it's all about how the doctor perceives you; are you inclined to act irresponsibly, and more importantly, are you well aware of the dangers?

Mine knew of my past history with drug use, but I had no problems looking him in the eye and saying that I wouldn't be taking any stimulants (NA/DA) with Selegiline. I guess a worthy word of advise when selecting an appropriate GP, is to go for one who's a bit older and can appreciate the need to counter a declining memory.
 
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