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small opiate w/d question

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Unia

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Ill get straight to the point, I have been taking between 60 and 200mg of hydrocodone a day for a few months, and I feel like its getting out of hand. I've looked for answers on the forum and search engine, but this is a somewhat specific question.

I am on day 4 of withdrawals.
I managed to make it through half a day of work yesterday before my boss sent me home, i feel like crap, the usual stuff. I am starting to feel a little better today (on day 4) but I still feel bad. If I didn't have to go to work I would just ride it out, but it turns out I have to go to work soon.

I got my hands on 30 tramadol 75mgs. I was thinking of taking them just to get through work and not taking them while I am not at work.

If I took say 150mg before work every day, would this set back my w/ds any?
I certainly don't want to go through this first 3 days again if the tramadols would mess me up.

Any input? Thanks in advance.
 
Oh god friend... This is a slippery slope for sure and I totally feel your pain. The trams are a nasty thing to wds from. They are an SSRi (selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor) or they control serotonin levels in your body to make you happier. the problem is quitting Trams has the added problem of severe depression. Would I would suggest is take it easy with the trams and only take them at work to get through the day. In all honesty if you truly are at day four your about to crest the hill and it should start to get a little better each day. Benedryl worked really well for me when i was kicking I would take one before work to keep the chills/flu like symptons at bay and then when i would take two before bed to help me sleep. You can do this and you are making huge steps in the right direction. Keep with it and if you need anyone to talk to Im here for ya just PM me.

Hope you the best and just remember your plenty strong enough to beat this affliction, BLer's are more than glad to help you out....
 
Unia - speaking from experience, Tramadol does indeed make opiate withdrawals quite a bit more fathomable...however, I don't usually suggest trading one drug for another but in this case, I would down-right AVOID IT!

Tramadol withdrawal is a bitch - more so than those experienced from hydrocodone. Not only would you eventually deal with the standard opiate w/d's, you'd also experience a dark depressive scenerio because of Tramadol's serotonin reuptake actions. No good - for sure!!!

Hey - you're already on day 4 and you've already admitted that you're feeling somewhat better....why not just ride it out the rest of the way? I understand working while suffering through withdrawals is everything BUT pleasant but it ONLY gets better for you from here!!!

My suggestion: fuck the Tramadol's and continue the "kick" the old fashion way. You're doing a great job and trust me, you'll be glad you went this route later!!!

R*B
 
honestly i dont think u should take tramadol. Your already on day 4 and you don't seem to be suffering that much (relatively speaking)

In a few more days your body will feel stronger. Make sure to get lots of exercise. Trust me it will restore your energy BIG time.

Its just not a good idea to take the tramadol.
 
well the morning b4 work see if you can go without the trams and if you cant then take a decent dose, but you dont want to get into that habit either
 
The advice from Draigen And Receptor is absolutely your best route- just stop taking opiates of any kind and ride it out. It will take you a bit to get fully better- but if you keep taking the tram you'll just be putting it off and making it worse.

If you do decide to take any- only take 50mg...but even then you'll be setting yourself back. Get out of this while the getting is good- and believe me- the getting is good right now. This will get worse and worse.

Start today...
 
Don't take em. Ur almost there. 2 more days max. Wait a couple days, if u need em take em then. Try some immodium ad. It's a godsend for me.
 
You'd be better off taking some lope or an OTC. If you had access, a low doseof valuim or ativan would help out more than the trams for the next few days at work. Being at day four your just about there, I think taking the trams would only prolong the wds, meaning you could get over them sooner without the tram. Congrads on making the choice to quit.
 
Thank you all for your answers and support, I felt so bad earlier that I don't think I worded my question clearly enough.

If I take a small 50-100mg dose of tramadol to help me get through work, will that slow down my progress? Will it set me back any? or is there just the danger of taking too much tram and having w/ds of that too?

I am feeling a ton better, but I am still having a hard time making it through the day. I had the trams in my pocket today at work but didnt take them because i wanted to see what you all had to say first. Thanks again everyone.

I don't want to take a lot of it, just enough to get through a few days of work. Or does detox not work like that? If it will slow down my progress of my hydro detox I want nothing to do with it of course.
 
Yeah it will slow down or set you back for sure. It''s like putting a band-aid on the problem. I know its hard but your doing it so keep it up. If you made it through today tomorrow is just gonna be easier and easier. I would go the natural route like other's had suggested with a warm bath, good food, as much exercise as you can handle and so on... Your almost there and the worst of it is already behind you...
 
yup, any opiate taken will make you feel better, but it's just plain masochistic to keep some in your pocket "just in case". you may feel better in the short term, but at the very least will drag out the acute w/d another day.... and if you're lucky, it won't be worse than before yeh had a mini-relapse.
dear god get rid of the tramadol completely. opiate addiction has a very effective way of making us justify relapse.
However, do start taking your vitamins (esp the B6-B12 "feel good" ones), along with the aminoes listen in the protein regimen for beating w/d.
That, along with a few other non-opiate/benzo meds got me this far.
 
Ya agreeing with everyone here - dont give yourself a way out. it WILL set you back. No doubt about it. Dont let your mind talk you into it cos you'll want to. Ride it out. You'll start feeling fine pretty soon and get the trams out of your pocket.
 
Ok, thanks. I didn't know trams would set me back seeing as they arent exactly opiates, but close enough i guess. Thanks again much appreciated.
 
Tramadol is a synthetic analog of the phenanthrene alkaloid codeine and, as such, is an opioid and also a prodrug (codeine is metabolized to morphine, tramadol is converted to M-1 aka O-desmethyltramadol). -wiki-

And it seems to be a pretty common misconception that trams aren't opiates? You think this comes from them just being weak or are doctors actually telling people this?

Unia- Another day off the tally how you feeling today? Hopefully you can start to see some light at the end of the tunnel the next few days.
 
Yes. Tramadol is an opioid, but it gets its unusual kick and is better than other opioids, to me anyway, because it releases serotonin, inhibits the reuptake of NE. Among several other actions in the brain.
 
You are an addict Unia - even one on the mend. You'll never just take two Tramadol's to make it through. If you could, you would of never ended up in withdrawal in the first place.

I'm not trying to be rude - just truly honest. We opiate addicts know that withdrawal is right around the corner each time we start using but it never stops us until our backs are against the wall and we're out of shit. Having any opiate in my grasp won't ever last too long and chances are I'd pretty much trade my normal addiction for whatever alternative I had available.

Ya know what I mean? You're still doing soooo much better. It ONLY gets better from here. Just look to us here @ the TDS to keep you on the right track. But, as you know, we're not gonna allow you to pop those Trammies if we have any power over it (which I honestly believe we do).

Take care!

R*B
 
^Totally. No matter how many times I got dope to finally wean myself off after the first shot you get that "fuck-it-all" in your system and end up doing the rest of the bag that night. Wake up in the morning and realize what you have done, feel sorry for yourself and go score more. Because life sucks anyway right why not just continue the downward spiral...

-Unia- you got the power to do this we got your back!
 
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