Slippery Sheepdogs Dribbling Rainbow Halo's All Over The Parellogram- PD Triangle Urt

[SKL]

psychedelics tend to bring out thymic dysregulation in people, i.e. bipolar type mood dynamics, more often bipolar(II) type oscillation between depression and hypomania ... but this is a chicken-and-the-egg thing again, as hypomanic/manic individuals often seek high degrees of stimulation and novelty, such as can be found in the psychedelic experience

peak psychedelic expeirences, however, are totally trasncendent to these extremes of mood. mood disturbances, whether hypo/manic or depressive, tend to result after or during the comedown, i.e., as a result of difficulty integrating the experience.

i don't think the drugs are the problem per se but rather our approach, or our ability to integrate the experience. psychedelics are difficult. in the short-term, they are difficult because they are not drugs like heroin or cocaine or beer which have relatively consistent intoxicating and euphoriant effects, but rather that they can lead to the whole range of human emotion; in the long-term, they are difficult because integrating this and other niceties of the experience is exceedingly difficult.

the question is, i guess, is the difficulty of integrating the self-experience more or less difficult than the difficulty of self-actualization under sober circumstances? how about for our own brand of "broken people" who wind up choswing the latter? is it a better choice for us than the alternative? i'd like to think so. but i find the alternative virtually inconceiveable ... very difficult stuff...

 

[Roger&Me]

So yesterday I was trippin on some L and I went into a gas station to buy a lighter, she gave me a blue one. It made me think of this place, how's everyone been? It's been a minute since I've stopped by.

Good to see you around, bro.

How's summer been?

 

[PepperSocks]

... very difficult stuff...

Indeed

Damn bro, maybe you should cut back on your use? From your posts you seem to be pretty sensitive to most substances in general, and it sounds like you're starting to get some negative effects that are starting to show their impact. Just lookin' out for you, bro -- from an objective perspective that post seems like the beginning of a slippery slope.

Thanks for the concern man

I am very sensitive to all psychoactives. I have a very active nervous system and I think this might be the culprit.

I'm not an addict of anything but when I feel like shit I sure do take things to escape. I only took 1.2g of kratom and 16mg of codeine but do I feel it? I feel it quite well. Most people would barely hit threshold.

I never binge on things more than a day or 2. It's weird I escape when I feel like crap but then I stop.

I really don't see myself stopping psychedelics anytime soon. I'm drawn to them, anytime I take a break I last a little while, maybe a month or 2 but I hear them calling and I get back into them. I don't find this a bad thing either because I feel they help me process stuff and make me feel happy but what I'm having a hard time seeing is objective progress. I still have the same crappy anxieties (mostly social/relationship in nature).

I'm not going to stop tripping but I need to start having more fun filled, light trips and no more solo tripping. I'm seeing my old friends this weekend and am going to trip with them. I think that's a good plan; no more solo tripping. It'll also make a big decrease in my use unless I start hanging out with my friends every weekend (which will be a good thing).

 

[adrian89987]

I need homes for kitty cats

 

[nearjat]

AYYYYYY

EMMMM

TEEEEE

.....

AY EM TEE!

:D :D :D

im a little excited

 

[medical_meccanica]

Are "traditional" methods of pharmaceuticals such as benzos and SSRI's and psychotherapy better? Do they actually "fix" people or do the problems still remain.

I would NEVER touch an SSRI with a 10 foot pole, but psychotherapy is the bees knees. In Australia you can get a referral from a regular GP if you tell them you're stressed or anxious all the time and with MediCare that can cut the cost of a session from $100 to $25. If you're curious, man, I would really suggest checking out the easiest and cheapest way to give it a go. Psychotherapy is a science and it's brilliant, but the worst that can happen is you waste a couple of hours of your life.

I go up and down like a yo-yo, at times I'm bursting with ecstatic joy while completely sober and other times I'm in a pit of despair, I dunno, Bi-polar?

Keep in mind that 'fixing' oneself doesn't mean you'll never feel pain again. A sad fact about humans is that we sometimes need that pain and struggle to grow and get a sense of ourselves and the world. Getting rid of those pits of despair completely would not make you a better person, IMO. The hard part is being able to surrender to the reality of human emotions and feelings without feeling completely controlled by them.

Just a couple thoughts.

 

[Recept]

AYYYYYY

EMMMM

TEEEEE

.....

AY EM TEE!

:D :D :D

im a little excited

Same here I've wanted to taste this one for ages, finally will be getting the chance soon

 

[swilow]

Good thoughts too Medical Meccanica....

 

[PepperSocks]

I would NEVER touch an SSRI with a 10 foot pole, but psychotherapy is the bees knees. In Australia you can get a referral from a regular GP if you tell them you're stressed or anxious all the time and with MediCare that can cut the cost of a session from $100 to $25. If you're curious, man, I would really suggest checking out the easiest and cheapest way to give it a go. Psychotherapy is a science and it's brilliant, but the worst that can happen is you waste a couple of hours of your life.

I've been thinking about it. There's a shrink that comes into my GP's practice and it's all free (I love Canada ).

Keep in mind that 'fixing' oneself doesn't mean you'll never feel pain again. A sad fact about humans is that we sometimes need that pain and struggle to grow and get a sense of ourselves and the world. Getting rid of those pits of despair completely would not make you a better person, IMO. The hard part is being able to surrender to the reality of human emotions and feelings without feeling completely controlled by them.

Just a couple thoughts.

I like that idea. It does kind of sound like a contradiction in terms though. Something I'll think about and try to work on.

Thanks for the thoughts

 

[helium-4]

ahhh all my damn attempts at finding k are futile... argle argle argle...

speaking of a dissociatives, I have to get a cavity filled on Wednesday... Honestly kinda pissed they only give you nitrous to sedate you. I have massive anxiety over any surgical procedure no matter how minor, so I wish they would just knock me the fuck out.

Also I'm not super impressed by 1984 atm. Not a bad book, but I dunno, it just really doesn't hit me quite like other Utopian novels I've read.

 

[cosmic charlie]

I had a pretty scary experience tonight , I spoke gibberish for a few hours and felt pretty much retarded. I think that 2c-'s arent gonna work for me no more. I feel like I lost the magic with the substance. It didnt even get me high it actually made me sad. And i kept losing myself for 10 or so seconds and id mumble crazy shit. Or so im told .

Weirdness

I think my mind needs a break

 

[medical_meccanica]

I've been thinking about it. There's a shrink that comes into my GP's practice and it's all free (I love Canada ).

I LOVE the sound of it that place, Uniter! My ex gf is going to take me there sometime next year, I can't wait!! :D

I like that idea. It does kind of sound like a contradiction in terms though.

Most of the most important things I've learned about myself and the universe have involved certain elements of contradiction. It makes for a complex and beautiful life.

 

[PepperSocks]

Well I guess it's not totally "free"; gotta love them taxes

If you're ever kickin around southeastern Ontario hit me up!

It's weird man, my shit comes in waves. I'm totally fine now. I feel great; WTF!! lol

 

[SKL]

damnit
i just bought bunch of whippets
now my whippet machine broke on the 2nd box

 

[cosmic charlie]

You gonna have to find a cracker fast , time is of the ehhsense

 

[helium-4]

Do you think a bike cracker for co2 will work for nitrous. I assume they will, but don't want to risk ruining the thing.

looks as follows

 

[the_milkman]

^ nice cracker.

it should work as long as the bulbs are the same size.. i dont see why it wouldn't..

 

[SKL]

thing would get really cold very quickly

 

[helium-4]

Colder than co2?

 

[PepperSocks]

Can you control the flow with that or is it one of those things that cracks it and lets out all the contents? If it can be controlled it'll be fine and make damn sure you use a balloon; I'd suspect the compressed gas on that metal tip would get frostbittingly cold.